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Single Keyakizaka46 4th [Fukyouwaon] (2017/04/05)

Discussion in 'Sakurazaka46 News & Releases' started by ForrestFuller, Feb 14, 2017.

  1. marioworldakb

    marioworldakb Under Girls Stage48 Donor

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    Regardless this is how you steal a show lol

    AKB's app filter was pretty damn troll too, Keya was just next level
     
  2. af8!

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    I liked the performance. I think it would look better in any outfit besides their Zankoku ones, but I like the dance. It stays true to the name, and the choreo is really interesting.
     
  3. ukifune

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    Exactly where I am, too. I loved it. I want to see more. I want to see it better. I want more medium-long camera shots and less close-up, so I don't miss so much of the choreo and the overall look on stage.

    @minaeshi makes a good point about it being a bit rough (except where it counts). This is a perfect match for the wild multi-member Showrooms. Eccentric. Inventive. I'm so glad I became a fan of this group. They have even more going for them than I realized. No wonder they seem so exuberant right now: I think they realize they're doing well, too.

    Two shoe things in the two most recent videos: in the M-Station Fukyouwaon, at the beginning you could see the clear tape they use to wrap around their instep and hold their loafers on. On Music Day we have that fabulous idea of brandishing a shoe and then tossing it away, and dancing wearing only one shoe. I like.
     
  4. Reveen

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    I don't think I've ever seen a thread on S48 that has so much confirmation bias and instances of people "drinking the kool-aid". That choreography was fucking awful.
     
  5. Matsui Hikari

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    I'm glad I'm not the only one that finds the choreography bad LOL. I find that the choreography does not match the song at all and the shoe thing is just weird af. I'm a huge fan of Keyaki but I'll pass on this.
     
  6. marioworldakb

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    lol

    I am eccentric 変わり者でいい
    普通なんかごめんだ 僕は僕でいさせてくれ
    敬遠されたって 好きなように生きてくよ
    カメレオンみたいに同じ色に染まれない

    I am eccentric and I’m fine with being strange
    I’ll pass on being normal, just let me be myself
    When people avoid me, I can live as I please
    I refuse to change my color to suit everyone like a chameleon

    何が真実(ほんと)なんてどうでもいい
    わかってもらおうなんて無理なんだ
    倒れて行く悪意のドミノ
    止めようたって止められない

    訂正したとこで
    また同じことの繰り返し

    もう、そういうのうんざりなんだよ

    But they don’t really care to have the truth
    Getting them to understand is a waste of time
    I can knock over that bunch of malicious dominos
    Even if you tell them to stop, they’ll keep going

    And every time you correct them
    They just start doing it all over again

    I’m fed up with it already!

    Nuff said

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    btw the members on SR points out the choreograph is actually not just a random squidward dance. (Another version it seems)

    All members have their own individual characteristic choreograph during the chorus
    https://twitter.com/enter_gncr24/status/881164374177595394?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=http://keyakittenani.blog.jp/archives/23290498.html

    https://twitter.com/imizikumoito/status/881173256396341248?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=http://keyakittenani.blog.jp/archives/23290498.html

    https://twitter.com/gjapab/status/881166537754726400?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=http://keyakittenani.blog.jp/archives/23290498.html

    Like...Sugai Yuuka is a drone beetle, Ishimori Nijika is Ostrich, Sato Shiori is a photo, Saito Fuyuka is doing the Awa Odori
     
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  7. zakihime

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    I find it weird how people expect eccentric choreography to be nice when the song title is called eccentric. do you guys know the meaning of eccentric or do i need to search it up for you guys?
     
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  8. marioworldakb

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    I don't think we should even use the idol standard to even measure this performance is good or bad since it was meant to be an art form of expressing their individuality on the stage.

    At least it was easily the most entertaining performance in the Music Program lol. And it is getting a lot of people talking about it.
     
  9. glsone

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    It has a negative connotation. It is probably the nicest way to say something is weird though, yeah. Like if you have a crazy friend and people ask you what's wrong with them you'd reply with "Oh, they're just eccentric." It's admitting they're odd, but sugar coating I guess?

    I love how polarizing the choreo is. That's what makes it so successful imo. Look at the amount of discussion it's brought about even just here.
     
  10. Meiji Ishin

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    Eccentric also carries with it the idea that a person is wealthy or creative, because of the eccentric millionaire and artist tropes. I don't think it is really viewed as a negative term.
     
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  11. marioworldakb

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    Then this is good enough.

    Most of the Japanese netizens are more bewildered by the performance of the image gap (Cute girls x weird dance). So I wouldn't use the word "accident" at least no one I have seen yet on twitter is brave enough to comment it was bad / worse performance on the show. It was mostly eccentric.
     
  12. Meiji Ishin

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    No, to quote the greatest thinker of the modern era "That's just like your opinion, man.", you may see it as a failure others may view it as a success. Neither view is right or wrong.
     
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  13. marioworldakb

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    I am a 48G fan but sorry I love the octopus dance tho lol Looped the song like 3 hours now

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  14. Meiji Ishin

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    There is no 2 levels here, level 2 and meta are your opinions some share them, others don't.
    It would be fair to say that opinions are divided or mixed on both the choreography and performance, it would not be fair to say any individuals opinion on them is the correct opinion except for that individual.
    You are searching for consensus for something that does not require nor will ever have consensus.
     
  15. glsone

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    Just so I'm straight, you're saying that the choreo is bad conceptually and then you are also saying that it was performed poorly? I'll disagree to the choreos concept part but slightly agree with the performance part. Keyakizakas average level of dancing ability is pretty low so it's not that surprising.

    Part of the problem is the use of objective words to describe subjective things going on here. Say "I didn't enjoy it." and no one bats an eye. Say "It's bad." and those are fighting words type thing.
     
  16. marioworldakb

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    Did they really fail that dance, hard? What are the basis?
     
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    I did mention this in the General Keyakizaka Thread.

    Neru said in SR that Takahiro sensei told them that this choreography is either a 0 or a 100, no in between. Just a hit or a miss so the girls were very nervous before performing this as they do not know how the reaction of the audience would be. So how everyone reacting now is actually the expected response.

    For me, the choreography is good, it's just that Keyaki members level of dancing is not yet up to par. They need to refine the individual dance parts.
     
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  19. Tempe

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    long story short...i love the dance! i love keyakichans.

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  20. SilentBreeze

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    for me, its not about the choreo

    it just like the dance movement and the way they lipsync, is not sync at all

    its looks messy, IMHO the way they perform fukyouwaon is more sync than eccentric....
     

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