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[GENERAL] The STU48 Thread

Discussion in 'General STU48 Discussion' started by ForrestFuller, Mar 27, 2017.

  1. Arinko

    Arinko Member Stage48 Donor

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    Actually they should have fully transferred someone from AKB48 who can benefit from the opportunity to reinvent herself like Kitarie, Abe Maria or Izuta Rina. A concurrent member as a captain and is a rising star in her original group will not be able to fully focus on her captaincy. Okada Nana's popularity is not fully because of STU48 and the STU48 members cannot take that as a benchmark on how popular the group is based on that and I kinda feel that the members are floundering.
     
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  2. STS

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    No transfer! No kennin! :asdfgh::asdfgh::asdfgh::asdfgh::asdfgh::asdfgh::asdfgh::asdfgh:
     
  3. Arinko

    Arinko Member Stage48 Donor

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    Homegrown captain? One without learning from example of a experienced AKB48 member?
     
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    well it's pretty much what Team 8 went through. But also it took them several years to figure some things up. It helped the narrative of "they remind us of the original AKB spirit" but also had its consequences as well obviously.
     
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  5. Arinko

    Arinko Member Stage48 Donor

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    I don't think STU48 management is patient enough for them to figure things out themselves. They are already accelerating CD releases before getting their theatre.
     
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    I personally wouldn't mind a transfer though we almost ran out of suitable candidates
     
  7. Shiroi_Akuma

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    But why does the potential transferred member have to be from AKB? Transferring a seasoned member from another group would have the same result, wouldn't it?

    For example, Kawakami Rena and Okita Ayaka would be perfect candidates since they have experience as team leaders, have been in NMB since the beginning, they aren't very popular nor old (20-22 years old) and are from Setocuhi area (Kagawa and Hiroshima respectively). If not them, you have at least 15 girls from SKE, NMB and HKT who could do the job perfectly while reinventing themselves and using the transfer as a popularity boost.
     
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  8. nvmea

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    I was thinking about sister groups as well, and you are right that there would definitely be some good candidates, but I'm just not sure why would one sister group help the other ones without getting anything back (and especially if they are under different agency). It's still different compared to transfers from AKB.
     
  9. ET920

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    Obviously the first name that comes to your mind when thinking of transferring someone permanently as captain is Miichan. She's well past her prime within the main group, she got experience as captain and has ranked as senbatsu. Wouldn't be surprised if she actually _was_ the first option as captain but declined. Some other experienced members are Myao, Naana and Shiichan, though Shiichan got the election problem, this year there would have been new members that had ranked higher than her (though in Japan I guess seniority is much more important than popularity within the group). Naana at least centered a single.

    However, you know who I'd have wanted as captain? Moekyun. She's a poor man's version of Naachan: smart, hard working and serious when needed but below average in terms of popularity. I'm quite sure she'd have accepted this opportunity. The fact that she was a draftee and didn't go through proper kenkyuusei phase doesn't bother me.

    Nobody from HKT48 nor NGT48 would have worked as captain (other than Haruppi, but she's a no-no), though I can imagine a few names from SKE48 (Kaotan, Churi, Makiko, Ranran) and NMB48 (Aapon is my first choice, and Antan).

    Obviously AKS lent them a couple of popular members (Naachan and Sasshi) to help their popularity at the beginning and STU management accepted the offer, but they didn't realize there was a big difference between Kitarie in NGT48 and Naachan in STU48 even if in papers it might have sounded similar for them.
     
  10. xinchun

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    Regarding Hinako not wanting draft members, I'm pretty sure Michu expressed that as well, according to a post here. I don't know of anyone else's feelings on the matter though. It was a fair enough desire. And it's not the first time in 48g history that kks or draft members were pushed ahead of first gens of course, so they have logical reason to worry. But for better or worse, we have who we have. I'm personally just happy STU fans at least stuck to the Setouchi candidates only.

    As for her graduation, I feel like it's probably just her choice, and not a termination. If it was termination, would it not have happened sooner? Or would she really have this final month to wrap up activities?

    Regarding captainship and Nana, it's definitely tough because of course the decision wouldn't be easy. I figure Nana and Sasshi were picked partly since they're from near Setouchi, though of course many other factors came into play. Sasshi is proof you don't need to be added directly from AKB, even though she did originate there before joining HKT.

    I personally feel like maybe it's a little late to add a full transfer captain, and they should focus on grooming one of their own, but that's just me. I wouldn't be opposed to Nana getting a full transfer, at least on paper, but then I do think about her SSK speech. Of course she cares about STU but she also cares about AKB, and given that she wants AKB to reclaim 1st place it may be odd for her to full transfer. Not to mention with her being the top AKB-proper member as of this SSK she would no doubt be quite busy regardless of transferring fully or not.

    On the other hand though, we have had plenty of "late" transfers into groups who have ended up working out more or less just fine, even in leadership roles. I'm not familiar enough with other sister groups to suggest who, but if there's a good candidate then I'd be open to see how they may be able to do. Though of course that may take up another senbatsu slot, which could discourage more members. However the positives of having a full time captain/vice captain or just senpai in general may outweigh the negatives for them anyway. Of course they could just alleviate this issue by having more than 16 senbatsu members, though at this point with STU having consistently over 30 members, that feels like preaching to the choir at this point. lol

    All this said though, I'm at least thankful to Nana for being there when she is able, and for helping signal boost STU, in at least some capacity. Plus, personally I didn't know much about her until STU, so it's nice to learn more about her, along with learning about the other members. =)
     
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  11. extomomi

    extomomi Kenkyuusei

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    people need to realize Naachan didn't want to be the captain to begin with but she was put on the spot by the management.
    Personally I would like to see her ending her kennin by the end of the year. People complain when she is not around, which i can understand. But there are also people that complain when she participates in the tour. it's not easy to be the top AKB member (as of SSK) and the captain of a group 4hrs away. And knowing how much she loves AKB I don't think she will ever transfer. Miichan will be a great captain but local fans won't agree because her image is too different from STU. Let a first gen member replacing Naachan is the best option in my opinion.
     
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  12. marioworldakb

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    If anything they should bump Azusa to captain or at least vice sooner or later.

    Naachan is still the best captain STU ever had tho.
     
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  13. Haruka Suzuki

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    Azusa and Paruto in my mind are both amazing candidates to be the captain
    Or Harurun and Yuri, but seems like the management still want to push Yuri for a bit
     
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    We got a fresh footage (actual shooting date June 9th) of our ship being escorted to enter Japan Marine United's factory in Innoshima :)
    https://www.jmuc.co.jp/en/ This factory will be responsible for the reconstruction


    if the video does not show watch the video here
     
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  15. ET920

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    You sure? Did she ever mention she didn't want to be STU48's captain? Unless she has been punished (like Sasshi) she most likely had the option to refuse, but saw it as a way to promote herself.

    Such an empty phrase, she's the only captain STU ever had :awesome:

    Personally I'd like to see Kouko as captain, she got good relationships with both the popular and unpopular members. Not sure members could take Paruto seriously as captain, though, she's too much of a joking character between the girls. I'd also like to see they name a sub-captain so that they prepare her for captain's activities once Naachan is gone. Thinking about it I'd like their captain to be called captain, and the vice-captain to be called commander or first officer :awesome:
     
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  16. extomomi

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    She did many times. The first time was on ANN when she announced kennin to STU. She said she didn't want to be the captain because she wants to be the same as first gen. Then minutes later management announced her captaincy and sasshi kennin. Then she mentioned in her mobame and during showroom too that she felt uneasy being the captain as a kennin and wants to discuss about it more with staff. I guess eventually the staff concinved her
     
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  17. marioworldakb

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    Why you hating so much on the Naachan captain lol
     
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    Some haters maybe lol

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  19. Arinko

    Arinko Member Stage48 Donor

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    How did this become a hate of Naachan?

    I see no hate for Naachan as captain in ET920 comments, it is more about the choices made by management and the result of it (since someone has already pointed out Naachan didn't want the captaincy in the beginning).

    I do agree that STU48 should start grooming a sub captain to take over from Naachan.
     
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  20. marioworldakb

    marioworldakb Under Girls Stage48 Donor

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    I was half joking about it anyways...

    STU devastating result in SSK isn't even the captain's fault at the first place so it is what it is. Also I suspect the members who graduated so far all once had some hidden beef with the management. Therefore the possibility of the management firing them (pressuring them out) is on my conspiracy theory list. Was there really anything that Naachan could've done to prevent the recent graduations even if she was here? Doubt it.

    Last year when Sasshi was still (not really) with the group, people blame all the STU problems and faults on her and now once she is gone Naachan gets the blame cuz you know...she is now not really with the group >__>
     
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