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  1. marioworldakb

    marioworldakb Under Girls Stage48 Donor

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    She just had a meltdown and had just been cooled off who knows whens her next breaking point will be lol

    Age matters depending on the needs of the group. Like Kitarie when she picked Ogiyuka and Gatanee she went for impact and immediate skills that are already present by those two. She was right. Not all groups are suitable and have the luxury time for developing lolis, its a long term investment. As we see in the history drop out rates are kinda high for them as well.

    Just my 3 cent on this topic.

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    Nicely assorted of the candidates by their 1st choice
    http://akb48.blog48.fc2.com/blog-entry-25715.html

    And here are the lanes for the candidates participating in tomorrow's handshake event
    http://akb48.blog48.fc2.com/blog-entry-25712.html

    Age distribution since some of you guys are into the age discussion.
    http://akb48.blog48.fc2.com/blog-entry-25714.html
     
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  2. jashin

    jashin Kenkyuusei

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    Poor Momoka. Her crying breaks my heart.
    K46 Imaizumi Yui did gravure but she got in.
    This draft is rigged. :p

    if the video does not show watch the video here
     
  3. Reveen

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    Eto Misa did gravure too. If that is the reason why this girl didn't get in, it's certainly unfair.

    I certainly don't buy the reasoning that her singing or dancing skills weren't enough, lets face it, if Honma Mai can get into the group then literally any girl can get in.
     
  4. kanjo

    kanjo Stage48 Moderator Staff Member Stage48 Moderator

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    I checked her out and it seems like "did gravure" is an understatement. She's 14 and has 16 gravure dvds according to Wikipedia.

    Maybe too prominent for management?

    Not that I'd personally care.
     
  5. Rurouni

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    Also my comment for Momoka is that people need to compare what kind of gravure the other former junior idol did before they were accepted to 48G/46G vs what Momoka did. It is simple, just search for her on Google. You might change your mind (or not) after you see it.
    Personally, I think it was the right choice.
    This is assuming that the information is correct about her identity.

    Draft 3rd Campaign page (some members are currently streaming now)
    https://www.showroom-live.com/campaign/akbdraft3rd

    Official room (where they just had that stream I posted above)
    https://www.showroom-live.com/akbdraft3rd
     
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  6. marioworldakb

    marioworldakb Under Girls Stage48 Donor

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    Point is still not the gravure thing, I think it's the potential perverted pedo fans that might hurt the already dirty AKB wota image even more lol
     
  7. goratnik

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    How? Any such fans would state either "too old" or "ugh, no content here" and ignore further activities. Nope. And how is that going to sound: rejection in idol group auditions for being an idol? Good idol at that?
    Sorry, too much absurd.
     
  8. marioworldakb

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    I dun think ya got my point. I mean it has to do with reputation and image on the line. Anyways have you looked up her idol gravure shots yet?
     
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  9. Rurouni

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    I've seen Imaizumi and Momoka gravure and the difference is big. Imaizumi was like AKB swimsuit gravure while Momoka was like the other gravure that you see on WPB/Flash. It was really skimpy. Personally, I think the risk is too big regardless of her talent. She has the potential to be a liability in the future.
    This is assuming that the Momoka gravure that I see is the same girl as the one that auditioned for AKB.
     
  10. Trinu

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    This must be a Russian bot.

    Anyway!

    Poor Momoka but ohwell, I’m sure she can wait for the second coming of SDN.
     
  11. goratnik

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    I took a while to let things cool off, but seeing the looming witch hunt I have to react. So let's see, @Rurouni and @rka, what is the thing about: a girl in bikini. Yeah. Something very unusual for our idols. Younger than 15? To not look that far into the past, Yunana comes to mind. You are here, see this, nothing happens regardless. Even younger? Ask H!P wota, if they did harass Sayashi Riho for her releases from when she was 13 (yeah!)? Nope, did not hear such a thing. But when an idol comes that was in neither two of the big players, let's drag her through the mud. Is it a fun for you?
    Different content, you say? How is that different? How do you even differentiate? Did you ever see the said gravure? Did you see Momoka? All I see is a happy kawaii cutie ball, is that too sweet for you to say "Personally, I think it was the right choice."? Maybe you ought to bring your opinions directly to her:
    http://twitter.com/momomoka_0210
    Yes, she is an idol and despite being without agency for now, she still seeks this path. You should tell her that she is wrong - you have a possibility right here and now, why let her miss your important opinions.

    Do you guys even know that several AKB48 girls have been on TV as regulars along another girl from the same company, with the same content? Shiina Momo from R no Housoku greets you. How did TV executives ignore the fact that they have a U-15 gravure idol on a quite prominent show for youth? Not to say anything about those that gave her several acting jobs. In normal movies, if you ask. Did anyone even bother? Do you see a point?

    You might have tripped once or twice over a name: Kuromiya Rei. If you are going to stick anything against Momoka, Rei is like 10 times like this. Yet she landed in LADYBABY. Has had a good career. And you know what? She mentioned few times people pestering her, like you, and she had some warm words about such behaviour.
    When it comes to these "perverts/pedo fans", I have seen some of them after Rei started activities with LADYBABY, even after Ladybeard left. They were definitely unhappy with her musical activities and even demanded moving back to gravure. I'm not a fan of Rei (forget reasons), but it just had to end with me hounding relentessly every one of such pricks, until they all disappeared - which they did mostly thanks to the time that has passed and Rei getting too old. Disrespect against idols, or simply young girls, won't be seen keenly by me. And you definitely play in the same team as these A-(class)-holes: you don't like idea of a gravure idol going to a serious music group. This would after all mean almost no gravure! Nothing to pervert about! Or be a holy finger-pointing saint, full of moral superiority! More like bull... inside. Whatever.

    Instead of being solely judges of her past, for better or for worse, why not take a look at SHOWROOMs? Several hours, as it happens, down to her crying after final results of 3rd round. Follow her on twitter. Hear her singing. Is that a bad girl? Would be a bad idol?

    Did you even try to say anything meaningful here? Such a random collage of words.
     
  12. plomeplome

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    @goratnik calm down, no one is even hating on the girl here.
     
  13. goratnik

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    Yeah; no point in deleting history, you have idols here anyway ;)
    The fans of the bad kind are already dropping out, like seen with Rei, so even if the others came to know Momoka through her previous activities, it wouldn't be a problem for them to follow her seamlessly on new paths, as they might be already fans of this idol group or another. Being worried about their influence on the image is funny, as they are here already. And however big agencies Imouto or Bambina Pro can be, they are still little puppies compared to AKS or Yoshimoto, so it's great to see good idols have more opportunities. And the girls that join the former are awesome. Really.
     
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    @rka thanks for that link... not.
    If that was the girl, I’m glad she was dropped.
    There’s a side of Japan that veers to much into the wrong side of things and that is stepping right onto the line.
     
  15. goratnik

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    If you are taking this against the girl, then you should read something like this and wonder, on which side you are with your closemindedness and contempt.
     
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    Why is that the first thing (i.e. fapping) you think about? And could you elaborate on these reasons for illegality, so we all could have a a good laugh - or orwellian horror?
     
  17. goratnik

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    Now ask, who is deciding this and how. See, when 1984 was published, everyone was like "oh, that's scary, we should stay warned, totalitarisms are bad"... and then we have exactly crime of thought written into law like in your example.

    So nope, we should be better than our governments.

    (And you were wondering, why did I tag you... here is the answer. You are indeed within the range of my post.)

    I'm also wondering, if you have actually seen Momoka's videos, or are you just blurting prejudices?
     
  18. marioworldakb

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    Alright, you might be a saint and see the little angel out of those gravure shots.

    But I highly doubt others who watch it have the same intention as you do.

    Hell even the ways those shots taken are really crossing my line between child pornography and gravure. Cuz I'm pretty sure those shots are taken in a way to satisfy some needs from customers. It's hella shady man.

    Momoka has high potential no doubt and it's a damn shame she got dropped cuz of the business she did in the past. Otherwise there would be no apparent reason AKS not want her in.

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  19. trxsh

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    Do we even know for sure if she was dropped because she did gravure?
    that's cooling off?
    and Japan has different views on the exploitation of minors but it cant be surprising that a foreign audience has a negative response to u15/u12 /edit: gravure. also, your attempt to compare that response to people who justify rape based on what the victim was wearing, or to 1984, is ridiculous.
     
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  20. goratnik

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    @trxsh: we don't know and that's why it's infuriating to see some of the comments above. Cooling off didn't work, but at least that wasn't an impulse to react.

    Victim was wearing bikini and that's why it's OK to punish her for what people viewing videos think. Do you see the link now?

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    Whaaaat porn? Did I see a word porn here? OK, I'm off, this has indeed lost meaning with people seeing unicorns here. Thanks for correction :)

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    And I like @marioworldakb's comment for separating the two things. Learn from him, if you find me too extreme.
     
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