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Discussion in 'SKE48 Graduated Members' started by haruna_hamasaki, Jun 13, 2009.

  1. wetpantsu

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    Looks like their debut showcase got cancelled...

    https://www.allkpop.com/article/2018/03/japanese-av-group-honey-popcorn-cancel-their-debut-showcase

    Translation of Momona/Yua's message to fans uploaded to her instagram:

    “The first fan showcase that we, Honey Popcorn, planned with our debut was cancelled. We are truly sorry. We sincerely love K-Pop and respect K-Pop. So debut was our dream come true. We worked on the album purely out of our love and passion for K-Pop. We are still trying our best to make this work. We understand that in Korea, there is concerns about us debuting. But if you could give us the chance to make small steps to debuting and performing as a K-Pop group, we won’t let you down. Please try to support us. Thank you.”

    The petition from Korea (signed by 17,000):

    "Please do not allow Japanese porn stars to debut in Korea as an idol group.
    Honey popcorn, with three Japanese AV stars as members, is debuting on March 14th with a showcase.
    When Seotaeji released a song called "Come back home", students who left their homes came home.
    When an idol group turned down birthday gifts and donated them, fans began donating too.
    It's clear that K-pop idol groups have a direct impact on the fans.
    And idols are literally idolized by adolescents.
    Though there is no rule to who can debut as a K-pop group and who cannot, these women come from an occupation that is illegal Korea.
    It makes no sense for a country banning pornography to allow porn stars to debut as an idol group.
    Before K-pop groups appear on TV, they get their lyrics and choreography reviewed for ratings.
    This is because we know that K-pop culture has such a tremendous effect on fans.
    If Honey Popcorn debuts, it is likely the members will always be labeled as 'former porn stars' and this will likely lead to their past photos going viral. There will be malicious comments and virtual harassment.
    It's not only unfortunate for the members, but it also sets an example for more porn stars to potentially debut.
    This could lead to the sexualization of other female idol groups and singers.
    #MeToo is strong in Korea. Victims are stepping up with courage to fight gender discrimination and misogyny.
    This would only go against what Korean women and citizens are trying to achieve.
    People are concerned about Honey Popcorn's debut.
    Please do not allow AV actresses to debut as a K-pop group in Korea."

    The translations come from this article but WARNING- there's a nsfw photo in it (not nude, but a revealing pic from Yua's instagram. Mods can let me know if its not ok, just didnt really want to not include the source)

     
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  3. Reveen

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    I think by this we can tell who's behind this petition, far-left radical feminists, the most fun people on the planet :glare:

    As for K-Pop not already being sexualised.....lol
     
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    Since the time the debut was announced- so end of February.
    It looks like they'll still debut though, they just have to find a place willing to host their showcase.
     
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    I hate to say it, but there's some merit to it. If porn is indeed illegal in Korea (for some reason I never heard about that before, I guess it goes to show how much I give a rodent's posterior about Korea), then whoever had the idea of sending a bunch of porn stars over there as a pop group was out of their damn mind.
     
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    It's a question of the thing being illegal. Not that I agree it should be — but it is, and that makes the whole idea super weird.

    Maybe to some of us in more reasonable parts of the world it might be mind-blowing that in some places porn is just straight-up illegal :chuffed: but that is the case in a lot of places, including most of East Asia. I lived in China for a few years and they have a whole porn black market going. Even having porn at home can have penalties similar to having drugs lying around.

    Now sure, the petition was probably motivated by bigotry (and no, I don't agree feminists are likely to have anything to do with it). What I'm saying is it has a point. The whole thing is headbutting a wasps' nest.
     
  7. Pavlova

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    She's by no means a former porn star. She's a current porn star. She released something each month for the past like... eighteen or something, including this month. I don't recall them saying she would stop being a porn star for her k pop debut.
     
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    You seem to be making a lot of effort to miss the point.

    Forget the porn. It's really very simple.

    Take a person, A, or a group of such persons, whose primary profession is B. Take these persons to a country or state C, where B is against the law.

    That in itself is a very complicated situation. At best they might want to avoid talking about work. There are countries where they won't be welcome at all, especially if their profession is not only illegal but also taboo.

    In Germany prostitution is legal. But these professionals are quite careful when visiting countries where it isn't, and there are some where they aren't welcome and they know that.

    Or, heck, take a legal weed grower from one of the American states that legalized cannabis to a state that hasn't.

    It's complicated enough if it's just a visit. But now to want to turn those persons into local celebrities in country or state C? That's asking for trouble on a level that is either intentional, or indicative of an appalling lack of any sort of clue. Or both.
     
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    Talking of persona non grata... I personally imagine SKE management (or even AKS) is really butthurt with her success. And I personally don't think that your group's most successful graduate doing porn - on top of being a "dishonorable" graduate - would bode well for the group's reputation (come on, some of us used to ask about "what former members are doing AV now?" even before days of Rinatin); as such, I think SKE should have unpersonned her, removing any traces of her "past life" from their historical records and tapes. Think of what happened to Ai Kago or Chris Benoit.

    I also have suspicions that her K-pop debut is a piggyback on the Produce48 project, but that's for later.
    Heh, I've said this opinion on /akbg/ several times, but now that they found me out on Discord (and now voluntarily posting there with a tripcode as a consequence), I might as well post that thought here.
     
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    if the video does not show watch the video here
    I don't listen to kpop but I think they are doing great with the debut
     
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    Given that the first nine singles (of which Rinatin was in the senbatsu) weren't yet in the AKB's YT channel, it seems that AKS already went ahead of me by already unpersonning Rina Nakanishi (the original 48G to AV girl).

    I suspected it was a DefSTAR (original record label) issue, but given the ninth one (first in the King era) was also absent, that leaves only Rinatin as the sole factor.
     
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    Well actually because it's Japan and Japanese people normally have a thing about showing their face in any kind of media.
     
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    Here's Momona (I guess in this case it's more correct to say Momona rather than Yua) hanging out with SKE members and graduates, for those who still didn't get the memo that working in AV is not as much taboo as our small western minds expect it to be ;)

    https://twitter.com/yua_mikami/status/1003307164620845056

    Edit: it's Kaneko Shiori's wedding — my TL is now packed with it. (I came back here to write that and saw that Reveen just did as well.) So yeah the porn star still gets invited to weddings :cool: and she appears in other peoples photos as well… Rumi posted one that may or may not be the same one in Momona's tweet. Kaotan posted one where she obscured the faces of two people (presumably people who aren't public figures) but she left Monona intact.
     
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    More specifically it's Kaneko Shiori's wedding.
     
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    I know all this is old news, but I just wanna say it's kinda interesting she ended with up with a bigger career in AV then she ever did in SKE.

    Along with that, she's also had the KPop debut, and even guest appearances in video games (two actually, both in the Yakuza series)

    Idk. Just the fact that she's had such a successful career after SKE doing basically everything else imaginable I thought was interesting lol
     
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    Wait. She's STILL a Muscat? I could've sworn she quit after Honey Popcorn?

    I guess...I stand corrected lol
     
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    Kito's/Yua's Honey Popcorn comeback with song "De-aeseohsta"

    if the video does not show watch the video here
     
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    The beat is catchy and this MV is so cute. <3
     
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    Hmmm I think it's important to add also great song and MV of Ebisu Muscats with Yua in leading role. Title is "Ebisu animal anthem" :oops:


    if the video does not show watch the video here
     
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