Stage48 Wiki - Organization & Discussion

NGT48 - [instrumental] (in square brackets)
STU48, Nogizaka46, Hinatazaka46 - off vocal ver.
Keyakizaka46 - OFF VOCAL ver.

I might have some time later this week to go through my own collection for checking against the Wiki. It's complete for the 48 groups since late 2015 apart from a few theater editions and the more recent NGT releases. I also started collecting Sakamichi group CDs in 2015 but that's rather less complete.

 

other* mods?
did you lose your edit button?
y u so lazy?!

on topic:
any chance of getting a birthday or some kind of dates database for the wiki so you can do things like click a member's birthday to see other members born on the same day, or events that happened, etc?

 

I can only hope you’re not this rude to people in real life.

I moved Bemiho to Graduated because she has had her final performance, and her activities with the group have ended.

Her blog will still be up through July, and she will continue to be on pre-recorded shows and finish meguri. That is why her profile is still up. However, I don’t see any benefit to keeping her as an “active” member on the wiki if she isn’t. We aren’t even consistent about how we define graduation as wiki editors, if it is last performance vs last handshake vs day profile is removed from website or something else.

If enough people disagree we can undo the change. But as an Ohisama I can say most of us consider her Graduated now that she has finished her graduation ceremony.

 

Sakamichi Series groups often display members in their websites for a while even after they've graduated. I don't know about Miho because it was stated that she would remain in the group until the end of Boku Nanka's promotional period, so it's a very ambiguous time period to define. But, for example, it was very clearly announced by Nogizaka's management that Ikuta Erika would graduate on December 31 2021, and that indeed happened and she signed with another agency, but her profile was still displayed on Nogizaka46's website until February! So just because Miho is still listed as a member on Hinatazaka's website it doesn't mean she still is a member, only that her blog is still up for a time so people can save whatever they want in time. I know the forum considers a member 'graduated' only after the profile is deleted from the official website and that's okay, but there's absolutely no need to blame and be rude to wiki editors because of this. They're not exactly wrong when these things happens.

 

The issue is that the main definition for 48G doesn't apply to 46G (last theater performance + taking her photo down).

Websites aren't reliable enough, sometimes they forget to update for days or weeks. (Also as others mentioned last page, the 46G member pages also include blogs and they leave those up for a while).

 

Something similar happened with Wasamin - her graduation stage was on 2016/03/14 but here's a photo I took when I visited the Theater lobby 6 days later and her picture is clearly still visible on the wall :

 

It does make sense if you take all these contracts with talent agencies into account. Most contracts tend to end at the end of the month or 15th of the month. So a member even if she retires to privat life can have her graduation ceremony long before her last activity for the group. A lot of members who want to stay in the entertainment industry stay with the agency and change later or already have signed with an other agency.
It means graduation or last activity for a group does not end the contract with a talent agency.

 

does anyone have dates of minami haasa's and nakagawa mion's last activities? their profiles were removed from NMB's website, but they are still listed as active members on the wiki.

 

2022-07-08 and 2022-07-04 respectively, according to the other wiki (scroll to bottom). It cites these blog entries:
https://ameblo.jp/nmb48/entry-12749656479.html
https://ameblo.jp/nmb48/entry-12749656704.html

 

Fujizono Rei transferred to ing (アイ・エヌ・ジー)...

https://www.i-n-g.co.jp/news/【ﾘﾘｰｽ】AKB48 藤園麗が弊社に所属いたしました。
https://www.i-n-g.co.jp/top/talent/fujizonorei
https://twitter.com/reirei_2005118/status/1547385447508090881
https://www.akb48.co.jp/about/members/detail?mid=1061

 

Everything we do, we do for free in our own spare time with little to no rewards except the knowledge that we did it. If you act rude and call people lazy, we can also just simply stop updating in general and you can get your updates elsewhere.

Personally, over the last couple of months, I've had my final university assignments, I went into a full time job, I had my university graduation ceremony that required preparation, and my family from abroad stayed with me. If you can't understand that private life, especially big changes and seeing your family, take precedence over editing a fan wiki, then you have bigger problems.

But as for your final question, we have a Category system, but this only includes years. For example, if you scroll to the bottom of Matsui Jurina's page, there's a link that says "Category: 1997" and if you click it, you can see all members across all 48/46 groups (also including SNH48 group and IZONE) who were born in 1997. That's the best we can offer. If you want a date database, you're of course welcome to create your own spreadsheet for this.

That's my rant over. I've been getting a couple of DMs both here and on Discord with loads of requests, plus of course the posts on this thread. Two of these requests are really large projects (one is @sscrla's request to fix the label numbers, another one is implementing all the dates of every single shuffle in 48G history properly). Today is the first day in about 2 weeks that I was able to go through all the Stage48 threads that I follow and catch up on updates. I haven't had the time to do any wiki updates.

Today and tomorrow are the hottest days in recorded history of the UK, so I will now log off and go outside for a swim so that I can survive this heatwave. Please be patient with update requests, not just from me but also other editors, who aren't actually obliged to give any reason as to why they cannot or simply don't want to do updates for free.