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Single AKB48 46th [High Tension] (16/11/16)

Discussion in 'AKB48 News & Releases' started by ForrestFuller, Sep 15, 2016.

  1. ryandtw

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    Final Oricon first-week numbers stand in at 1.18 million (subject to rounding).

    【オリコン】AKB48、28作目ミリオン&33作目首位 センターぱるる有終美
    http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/2081819/full/
     
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  2. ForrestFuller

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    Last Two Days Sales (Since I didn't see them posted).
    Day 5: 6,217
    Day 6: 6,471 (1,173,383)
     
  3. Trinu

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    It should get to 1.2 in a couple of weeks I guess.
    They should be playing it all the way though the Christmas specials, so that's more promo than usual for a single.

    You can't really blame it on anyone, it was a mix of things.

    Remember they also released their best album LESS THAN A MONTH before the single. And if albums are usually more expensive, this one was EVEN MORE.
    So yeah, wotas were poor and management should know better now not to clog the calendar with release after release.
     
  4. XOMuseHeart

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    Overall it looks like this

    Oricon - High Tension Sales
    (Tue) First Day Sales: 1,120,070
    (Wed) Second Day Sales: 21,236
    (Thu) Third Day Sales: 12,498
    (Fri) Fourth Day Sales: 6,891
    (Sat) Fifth Day Sales: 6,217
    (Sun) Sixth Day Sales: 6,471

    First Week Sales: 1,173, 383

    It's not too bad actually. If they keep up selling this way then perhaps there won't be a debate about whether they'll sell a million in the first week anymore.
     
  5. vutt

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    ^ Well if we ignore pre-orders then this is the weakest week since 2013
    Stats grab from 2ch:
    Code:
    ---   鈴懸   前しか ラブラドール プラカード リフレイン グリフラ  僕たちは ハロナイ 唇にBe  君メロ    翼は    TRIP  ハイテンション
    --- 13/12/11 -14/02/26 -14/05/21   -14/08/27 -14/11/26  -15/03/04 -15/05/20 -15/08/26 -15/12/09 -16/03/09   -16/06/01 -16/08/31 -16/11/16
    ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
    月 -,---,--- -,---,--- -,---,--- -,---,--- -,---,--- -,---,--- -,---,--- -,---,--- -,---,--- -,---,--- -,---,--- -,---,--- -,---,---
    火 *,916,912 *,970,413 1,462,156 *,871,923 1,017,160 *,860,269 1,472,375 1,187,633 *,813,044 1,133,179 1.331.907 1,100,332 1,120,070
    水 *,*38,574 *,*44,403 *,*61,451 *,*57,799 *,*37,812 *,*41,490 *,*46,663 *,*26,205 *,*31,921 *,*36,419 *,*38,009 *,*32,319 *,*21,236
    木 *,*17,531 *,*19,890 *,*37,612 *,*19,396 *,*20,473 *,*16,869 *,*44,181 *,*15,363 *,*18,018 *,*19,415 *,*20,181 *,*13,073 *,*12,498
    金 *,*21,522 *,*16,121 *,*33,141 *,*14,792 *,*14,839 *,*50,240 *,*45,291 *,**9,514 *,*11,994 *,*13,284 *,*13,376 *,*10,693 *,**6,891
    土 *,*13,666 *,*13,732 *,*26,286 *,*13,368 *,*13,362 *,*12,943 *,*22,230 *,**9,094 *,*10,444 *,*14,040 *,*11,749 *,**7,349 *,**6,217
    日 *,*12,887 *,*12,092 *,*27,666 *,*15,420 *,*15,110 *,**9,941 *,*21,502 *,*22,110 *,*13,883 *,*14,507 *,*15,046 *,**6,959 *,**6,471
    ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
    計 1,021,092 1,076,651 1,648,312 *,992,698 1,118,756 *,991,752 1,652,242 1,269,919 *,899,304 1,230,844 1.430,268 1,170,725 1,173,383
    週 1,033,336 1,091,406 1,662,265 1,005,774 1,130,312 1,001,393 1,673,211 1,277,761 *,905,490 1,237,891 1,440,711 1,177,769 *,***,***
    累 1,086,491 1,153,906 1,787,367 1,061,976 1,199,429 1,045,492 1,782,897 1,331,573 1,086,952 1,294,666 1,519,387 1,210,902 *,***,***
    
     
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    Yup. We have two ways to explain the decreasing importance of post-first-day-sales:

    1. Logistics has excelled to deliver everything on release day.
    2. Stores do not sell so many CDs to casual customers anymore.

    When did Oricon apply the 20-copies-per-customer-rule?
     
  7. kanjo

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    I think the last time it came up I found evidence of it as far back as 2011.
     
  8. Slacker13

    Slacker13 Kenkyuusei

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    I think people were "Takamina'ed Out" (my opinion) & caused people to unconsciously want less handshake tickets & gimmicks (Hear Me Out!) I personally feel if the "center" (Jurina, Milky, Sae, even Aki Takajo) enthusiasm would've been "higher" the possibly the Sales would've been Better. WHY? I personally think AKB48 is 50% a popularity contest & 50% (more or less) music. How do I know this? Jurina wins "RH" w/ a song that is considered "Her Song" several times. People vote in RH for songs to push their "Favs" to see them perform (the quality of the song is 2nd). Remember the year "Hashire Penquin" won RH? Was it because that SONG was so great or was it a Vote for the "Respect" & Love-letter to TEAM 4 (which had many fans)?

    There are numerous other examples one could find where the "Center" or leading performers 'Carry the Song' (or a Version of it).
    "Warukii" is forever a MILKY song - yes? regardless of who sings it - KomiHaru, Sakura, Mio, Sayaka, Koji-Haru....those 'In the Know' would will always compare it Milky's version (for better or worse). "Cherry Boy", "Pajama Drive", "Candy", "Blue Rose", ect can be morphed & re-made w/ countless girls - but an A-Side Single it a "fixed moment" in time- It gets released once! - the Center is the Center. "Gingham Check" is a Yuko center (or rather a Co-Center w/ Mayu). "River" is to Acchan as "Eien Pressure" is to Paruru - the songs "Face" & theme can't be UNLinked. In THIS instance - "Be my Baby" is the Takamina 'final Center' (Goodbye single). Even if it's done in a Year End Medley on TV or in a stadium tour in 2020 it's still going to be a Takamina song Historically regardless of who performs as "Center".

    IN THIS single - Paruru is the "Center" (focal point)- regardless of what the song becomes on Jan 1 2017 - when a young girl or guy gets into AKB48 in 2018 & hears "Be My Baby" & "High Tension" for the 1st time - they will recognize who the "Center" & focus is (who is carrying the song). You CAN'T blame Takamina or Paruru for the songs they didn't write. You have to blame AKI-P & his Marketing Team for gambling an A-Side on a girl who had a cult following but really wasn't "Center Worthy" in terms of over-all popularity (Harsh words I know, but Social Justice or Back-Pats don't exist in Japan the way they do in the West). That A-Side was "Wasted" In My Opinion - I'm just 1 guy. I think AKB got complacent after "Halloween Night" - thought people would buy anything regardless of "Center" - ALL I know is how that single sold & that they dragged Acchan, Yuko, Mariko, & Itano BACK and propped Sakura (only) next to them in a gigantic Hail Mary "celebration"- They had Yuko & Acchan kiss in the vid for good measure!- If it's NOT 50% popularity contest why bring anyone back ever?? Just my Opinion.

    After the election you saw AKB Go out of their way to give "face time" to these NEW Girls, right? There's been a recent shift in focus to AKB only girls in this Vids, yes?? "Pushes" exist for a reason - Popularity counts for 40-50% of Sales (in My Opinion). You can only rely on Gimmicks SOO Much - Paruru is practically 80% Out the Door- No Stadium Goodbye show, No Special Victory laps, no Extra Paruru backpats- the girl's final show will have like 200 people....YET, her single sold over a Million in 1 day- IS it "Popularity" or "Gimmicks"? - it's about 50-50 I'd say... just my food for thought.

    A very Cute Side note! I saw a pic of Mion dressed as Takamina's Tin-Cat & KomiHaru dressed as Milky's stuffed animal for a "Halloween Night" performance. That's a passing of the Torch! Mion is repping Takamina & Komi is repping MILKY - "Halloween Night" will always be a Takamina & Milky senbatsu song cause it's a Snap-Shot in time.

    Heheh - remember Acchan wasn't the original "Center" of AKB48.... Who did she replace?? Just saying. It's History.
     
  9. ZenigameX

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    Simple reason is the value of regular editions decrease when theater edition now comes with more perks than just HS. Be it pre-release or post-release, the regular editions ranking performance on Amazon jp just gets worse each release.

    I'm always skeptical about the 20 copies rule. Sources are poor, and Oricon has never officially mentioned this number. They just mention in vague way that they will look at the nature of the orders in their way. I believe they won't want record companies to exploit the rule by mentioning the exact number.
     
  10. rka

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    What?

    I dont know if you are kind of auto-ethno-graphing / stream-of-consciousness-ing here, and regardless if you like forum wars or not, if the first line of your argument is already unsound and unprovable, why should i go on reading the remaining wall of text?
     
  11. Reveen

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    If you ingested insane amounts of meth it might make sense?
     
  12. kyoto48☀︎☂

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    The president of oricon himself said the 20 cd limit is the case. He literally said "even if you buy 1000 cd's it will only count as 20".
     
  13. ZenigameX

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    The question is which source was this being reported in? Maybe I missed something out, but whatever I traced so far only points to rumor sites.
     
  14. wlerin

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    In this case there were a lot of other reasons besides Takamina being center that hurt the single's sales. However,
    1) it was already selling poorly before they changed the details of the photo event (they didn't "cancel" it as someone else said),
    2) Kimi wa Melody had fewer event gimmicks and still outsold it massively (only gimmick was the autograph lottery),
    3) 365-nichi was (and did) so much better than KnBMB, and this should have been obvious to AKS beforehand, but they made KnBMB the A-side because it was Takamina's last single.

    Because of the last point, I do feel the poor sales were kind of "Takamina's fault"--not because she herself made it sell poorly, but because they featured an inferior song for her sake. They latter fixed it by releasing a version with 365-nichi featured on the cover, but by then the streak was already dead.


    ....

    Why are we arguing about this in this thread?
     
  15. Reveen

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    only the million in a week streak finished, it still got there in the end.


    ....

    fuck knows...someone wanted to bitch about tkmn I guess
     
  16. wlerin

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    Yeah, after
    It was always about the first week though.
     
  17. Slacker13

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    LOLOLOL - I totally forgot that was there. I wrote that line 1st as *wink-wink* - then wrote the line about how "Enthusiasm" over the Center was the main issue & it had just "Happened to be Takamina" - then, moved on w/ my POV & debate points.... I thought I erased the 1st line- realizing that the more Diplomatic argument is she was in the wrong single at the wrong time (Wrong Center for the Wrong Song) and how "Popularity" can create a Buffer for when the songs don't pan-out.... there's a whole mini-paragraph MISSING - Before the (Hear Me Out!) - lol.

    Reading it made even me laugh at it's audacity - lol. You're correct - I must've killed a paragraph in the wrong spot or the Draft-Saved feature kept parts I thought I discarded. It was "Stream of Consciousness"- I thought I started making 1 point & ended on another - Good Catch!!!
     
  18. Rurouni

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    I always thought one of the reason KnBMB wasn't as successful is because they just released 0 to 1 no Aida (Nov 18th, 2015). It had 36 max HS slot for popular member. Wallet had been drained.
     
  19. Minami_san

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    Be my baby had terrible HS location. But anyway, sometimes I have the impression that I might be a bit crazy. Cause I'm always considered the 95% Akb48 sales = HS /gimmick sales. And let's say some really really really small portion due to song being popular (which probably is more noticeable on the consecutive weeks of sale).

    Anyway...

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  20. wlerin

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    Oh yeah, I forgot about that. It had a bunch of events in Osaka.
     

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