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[DISCUSSION] Member's Popularity & Management "Pushing"

Discussion in 'General AKB48 Discussion' started by aakun, Mar 8, 2011.

  1. Llewella

    Llewella Kenkyuusei

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    Yes, thinking about it, it's too harsh.
    'victim' maybe ?

    "scapegoat" is "one shown as guilty (even if he is not, just because it's convenient)" ....
     
  2. DSQ

    DSQ Kenkyuusei

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    Marytr makes sence more in english. Scapegoat is like deflicting the blame on to another person. But if marytr is to harsh, maybe 'victem'? (edit: beat me to it, but my defintion of scapegoat is right though) I really hope I don't act like that *paranoid*.

    I wonder why that is? Since it is the same in the japanese fandom... but I'd rather not have a full blown dissgusion tbh, I'm a bit to fragile for that. [hehe] I remeber when I saw the maachan grad thread at Nihongo, I was depressed for weeks [hehe]
     
  3. loveandcoffee

    loveandcoffee Kenkyuusei

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    yup, victim is what I wanted to say. Thank you! And sorry for the misunderstanding. >_>

    I, for one, am not going to use even one of my precious votes for anyone who's not Sae. I know she'd be happy to be in senbatsu with Sayaka, and she'd be happy if Sayaka made senbatsu. But I also know that she needs all the promotion she can get and this year her presence in media senbatsu, let alone top 10, is not so assured so I want to do all I can to let her keep her position.
    She's had a lot of visibility this year, but there's a lot of newly pushed members that have had, too. So I really find it hard to predict what position she'll get this year and I can't help but being worried.
     
  4. Mr Waffle

    Mr Waffle Stage48 Admin Staff Member Stage48 Admin

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    I don't really have anything to contribute other than it was totally adorable reading a Scottish girl solving a English dilemma being discussed by a French girl and an Italian girl :blush: [hehe]

    I'd forgotten about the whole voting thing from '09. Goes to show how important a handful of votes are, even for high-ranking girls...
     
  5. garnetjester

    garnetjester Member

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    I have to agree with Llewella though, nobody forced them to vote for Sayaka instead of Sae. If somebody asked me to vote for, say Amina, and I decided to do so, and then in the final results she came up higher than Yui I wouldn't be mad at them but at myself for falling for their convincing arguments [hehe]
     
  6. Azarashi

    Azarashi Kenkyuusei

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    Guess who is the idol that has the most time on TV this week? It's Harugon... *DON*
    And top 9 in idol category are all AKB (http://tv.nilenile.net/?m=w&t=&c=idol&s=jikan&)
    It's all thanks to table tennis but it's funny ;)
     
  7. Azarashi

    Azarashi Kenkyuusei

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    Looking at this Yukirin has very good chances to win against Takamina, Kojiharu and Mayuyu in the elections...
     
  8. aakun

    aakun Kenkyuusei

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    nah. sales don't mean anything. they just gradually get better with each release ignoring which is the subgroup releasing.

    no3b always had the worst sales yet they are always the ones doing the best in AX for example. plus we could also think that because they had this single so close to the election fans won't get all the money focused in the election what would mean that the french kiss girls won't get as much as they normally would ect.

    im still hopping for yukirin to get 8# ;_; . this election will also show us how much mixi and handshake event sales actually reflect in populary outside of the hardcore fanbase.

    exactly 1 month for the results, 2 weeks for the voting to start. so crazy
     
  9. vutt

    vutt Kenkyuusei Stage48 Donor

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    I'm not sure MIXI ranking is that directly related with popularity within hardcore fanbase. I think the best example is Mariko. I'm pretty sure that quite large portion of her fans care about actor Mariko and don't care much about AKB48 and music.
     
  10. oddball

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    well that's certainly true I feel though Franch kiss do seem to sell very well, intresting to see how No3b 7th single does....



    Well to be fair No3b do have alot more song than the other's (at AX only french Kiss and Watarirouka had songs that could be in the charts) but that's hardly unsurprising as they are the oldest sub unit.

    I can't see the french kiss single affecting how the girls do in the senbastu elections though, I think fans who bought the French Kiss stuff will do the same for the elections
     
  11. Azarashi

    Azarashi Kenkyuusei

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    Well, it does represent something. I don't think there are a lot of people who buy all releases of all akb subgroups (there too many of them). The DiVA sales next week will show if it's true (if they sell 100k too, I'll give up :)). But maybe it just represents what we know already from the handshakes, that Yukirin together with Yuko has the most hardcore fans. But if it represents that she has a lot of casual fans too, it means that she may be really high in the elections. Well, we don't have any good methods to measure the amount of casual fans (mixi is the best we have, but it's not accurate). Anyway, I bet on the Yukirin in the 5th place.
     
  12. aakun

    aakun Kenkyuusei

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    [2011/5/13 mixiコミュニティ人数] (5/11比増減数)

    篠田麻里子.65,787(+79)
    大島優子.  51,013(+970)
    前田敦子.  48,218(+93)
    板野友美.  38,693(+19)
    小嶋陽菜.  31,042(+103)
    渡辺麻友.  30,406(+33)
    高橋みなみ 28,482(+41)
    柏木由紀.  25,534(+240)
    指原莉乃.  18,896(+127)
    河西智美.  15,407(+36)
    峯岸みなみ 14,684(+77)
                      松井玲奈.  14,586(+146)
    宮澤佐江.  14,527(-8)
    高城亜樹.  13,915(+94)
    北原里英.  11,982(+43)
    佐藤亜美菜.10,022(+30)
                      松井珠理奈 8,597(+27)
    倉持明日香 8,485(+80)
    横山由依   7,256(+79)
    増田有華   7,225(+28)
    秋元才加   6,900(+17)
                      高柳明音   5,143(+23)
                                        高橋愛     5,127(-1)
    市川美織   4,732(+55)
                                        鈴木愛理   4,709(+8)
    小森美果   4,584(0)
                                        田中れいな . 4,521(+2)
                                        道重さゆみ . 4,480(+13)
    多田愛佳   4,294(+16)
    佐藤すみれ . 4,261(+8)
    梅田彩佳   3,894(+24)
                                        嗣永桃子   3,422(+3)
    仲川遥香   3,258(+1)
    宮崎美穂   3,244(+1)
    大場美奈   3,160(+25)
                      秦佐和子   3,118(+16)
    松井咲子   3,081(+32)
                                        菅谷梨沙子 3,070(-8)
    仁藤萌乃   2,812(+11)
                                        真野恵里菜 2,789(-1)
                                        前田憂佳   2,770(+9)
    平嶋夏海   2,765(+7)
                                        矢島舞美   2,441(+4)
                      山本彩     2,431(+31)
                      平松可奈子 2,361(+7)
    石田晴香   2,322(+13)
                                        夏焼雅     2,270(-3)
    菊地あやか . 2,228(+9)
    大家志津香 2,186(+8)
                      小木曽汐莉 2,148(+13)
                      渡辺美優紀 2,140(+12)
    永尾まりや  1,979(+14)
                      山田菜々   1,979(+18)
                      向田茉夏   1,929(+7)
                                        新垣里沙   1,909(+1)
    前田亜美   1,866(0)
                      矢神久美   1,854(-5)
                      大矢真那   1,775(+4)
    山内鈴蘭   1,755(+14)
                      木崎ゆりあ  1,745(+9)
                                        中島早貴   1,712(-4)
                                        和田彩花   1,666(-1)
                                        福田花音   1,620(+4)
    森杏奈     1,615(+7)
                                        熊井友理奈 1,569(+4)
    島崎遥香   1,533(+15)
    小林香菜   1,495(+3)
                                        岡井千聖   1,437(+8)
    藤江れいな . 1,402(+7)
                      古川愛李   1,394(+6)
                      須田亜香里 1,384(+10)
                                        小川紗季   1,381(+4)
    片山陽加   1,351(+1)
                                        萩原舞     1,322(+7)
                                        鞘師里保   1,319(+5)
    島田晴香   1,196(+5)
                                        清水佐紀   1,140(0)
    佐藤夏希   1,126(+1)
    松原夏海   1,125(0)
                                        須藤茉麻   1,082(-1)
                      木本花音   1,019(+1)
    竹内美宥   1,019(+4)
    田名部生来 1,010(+4)
    内田眞由美  992(0)
    米沢瑠美    988(+1)
                      近藤里奈    984(+6)
                                        光井愛佳    950(+6)
                      小笠原茉由  913(+4)
    入山杏奈    909(+3)
    仲俣汐里    894(0)
    川栄李奈    888(+22)
                      吉田朱里    887(0)
    野中美郷    870(+4)
                                        譜久村聖    859(+4)
    中塚智実    839(-1)
                      小野晴香    832(0)
                                        徳永千奈美  821(-1)

    - my goddness itano got positives lol
    - chu-community for yuko! damn almost 1000. i wonder if she can get close to mariko =O <3
    - AMINA 10K OME *_*
    - Kojiharu is doing so amazingly well. the day she gets to beat itano it will be a glorious day xd
    - and Rena you so badass <3
     
  13. reddertar

    reddertar Kenkyuusei

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    With the new episode of Majisuka, Rena will pass Miichan in this weekend.
     
  14. kashiko

    kashiko Kenkyuusei

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    FK's sales is really impressive but partly because it had 7 versions at all, no3b only had 4 while warouta7 is 3.

    no3b actually made me worried though [worried] [worried]
     
  15. garnetjester

    garnetjester Member

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    ^but FK has constantly outsold both Warota and no3b. I have no explanation from no3b, but I think the average popularity of girls in Warota isn't higher than the average popularity of FK members...
     
  16. vutt

    vutt Kenkyuusei Stage48 Donor

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    @mixi ranking
    Sae is still in negative territory. Are they still banning troublemakers? That's why?
     
  17. loveandcoffee

    loveandcoffee Kenkyuusei

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    I dunno anymore. And I honestly can't find any reason why people should stop liking her since she's behaving very usually. It's not like she's changed or she's doing something different from her character ò_O so I really don't get it...
    maybe people are just tired of drama in her comm? I dunno, really.
     
  18. oddball

    oddball Member

    Well Yukirin and Mayuyu near enough cancel each other out as far as popularity goes but I would say that Akicha and Mocchi are maybe more popular than the other Warota girls [though perhaps only just....)

    I just wonder if perhaps because No3b don't do so well is perhaps they were around before AKB were massively popular so are not as associated with the success as the other sub-units?
     
  19. loveandcoffee

    loveandcoffee Kenkyuusei

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    ^
    I think Harugon all in all is more popular than Asuka.
     
  20. yoshie

    yoshie Kenkyuusei

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    As far as FK and WH go, I think that overall Warota and Not Yet are still considered to be the most sucessful sub-units of AKB. In terms of Album sales overall, I think that Warota overall still has higer album sales then FK. And french kiss released like alot of verisons....but anyways. I think that comeptition for first place is between Warota and Not Yet, seeing as Not Yet are the ones to break Warota's record of higest first week sales for a subunit. Also I think that Warota and Not Yet have more exposure overall but FK is getting there [rock]
     

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