Discussion in 'General AKB48 Discussion' started by Kyobu, Jun 16, 2007.
Low-key hope they cancel janken and kouhaku too.
Have you watched all of NMB's new team shonichis? All of the line-ups are 14 team members + 2 KKS. And yes, no more team-bounded KKS anymore, but there's rotating system which each KKS can learn all of the stages and hopefully can perform on the stage -either as the filling 2 or as unders. And they still have KKS stage and soon-to-be Kojirin-P stage.
Funfact: NMB tends to be lazy in terms to recruit new gen girls (5th gen recruitment was announced 4 years after 4th gen's debut lol). So, with those 26 trainees, maybe management could open 7th gen recruitment in............ 2-3 years
Also, 1 group 1 team? You mean 46G?
Kouhaku is fun
I can see two major "teams" in N46 and K46: the senbatsu members and the under members
I would disagree with you. I didn't watched 2017 one, but I watched 2018 one in theater and I couldn't be more bored. And people around me seems bored too. If you consider it is an Idol concert, the problem is that the main, very long block is filled with group-separated show. That wouldn't be much of the problem, except that half of them is filled with popular song by the original member. And if you consider a musical show (which IMO it is closer too), then at 4 hours it's 2 hours too long.
Either return to original Kouhaku, or just stop it entirely. I don't care.
Just in general they need a revamp all their activities. i feel like most fans are pretty content with what they give out (I don't think we'll ever get bored of Request hour per se) but like i haven't watched Janken in years. I don't care for sports festivals (I don't care for sports in general lol), the theater is boring to me atm, and Kouhaku was really cool and fun, but it got really state lately. Which is hella weird since they can do like anything really. It's almost a free-for-all when it comes to performances i imagine and yet it's boring? It feels like they play it safe the people who choose the performances. The only one I remember being really amazed by was this Yukirin solo-church-song-thing she did maybe 2 years ago. That was really different and exceeded my expectations from someone like Yukirin. Like go crazy who cares who wins or loses there isn't a reward per se.
I think this is why I've grown to really like the thanksgiving concerts. Mostly the Senbatsu ones. Like Nao really puts her soul into her performances and it's an amazing show overall watching each member do their own thing. I mean the whole Rie Yume no Kawa song thing was hilarious and the highlight of that concert for me. You'd think with like a million songs and a million members we'd be entertained like 24/7 lolol (which reminds me of that 24-hour thing NMB does...like it's not that good lol).
I think they've honestly just gotten lazy. Enough fans throw money at them no matter what they do so they've just kept kind of doing the same thing forever, including stale events and ancient stages. Things are obviously rocky this year with all the drama going on and a few pretty major graduations (and Sakura to Korea). So now they'll need to shake things up and come out with fresh stuff or they'll likely start seeing losses of fans. Yesterday's HS lines were by far the shortest I've seen in a year, but I'm not really sure the numbers back that up, just my own personal observation.
I think they really need to think of new stuff to revamp the franchise.
Janken giving solo/unit debuts was a nice touch, but they invested so little in the result that... it didn’t really matter?
I believe it’s the perfect time to reboot. Like, don’t release singles for the rest of the year and give the groups new stages and whatnot. Think of new events blablabla.
I am of the opinion that the SSK should come back though.
It might be stressful and a chore, but it’s The Event for AKB.
If it wasn’t for it, they wouldn’t have distanced themselves from the rest of idol groups, and that’s from their own documentaries, son it’s canon!
I didn't watch AKB Kouhaku in recent years so I can't really say anything about it but I think Janken became pointless and should be cancelled. I don't think there's any change that will make fans interested again or satisfied. instead they can try to add new events for the group... I personally really like when they have musicals or stage plays, or even skits. so maybe they could cancel Kouhaku, and then have a new event where it's 50% performances and 50% skits? Something like AKB48 Show, but as event instead (besides, AKB48 Show is ending too). the skits could be longer too. I think that would be fun to watch. and then make more musicals or concerts in little venues. I like the idea of solo concerts that some members got, I think they should do more of this. and if some girls are not popular enough to have solo concert, why not subunit concert with like 4 girls and they all do solo performances or duets, that would be a good opportunity for some mid-popular girls to become more popular. I guess I just want them to do a lot of events, it doesn't have to be in big venues with a big budget so they don't have to spend a lot, but it would be a perfect way to help some girls get more popular.
also why not make new subunits under AKS like Tentoumu Chu. They should do this for the popular girls so they can get more known, because when they do subunits for new and unknown girls, no one really talks about it... it should be with popular girls. think of it like Skirt Hirari and how it had a little senbatsu to make specific popular girls stand out more and become popular. This is how you create "kami" members. or take a look at Keyaki and their subunits that are sometimes a one-time thing - but some of them are regular. You have a duet, some girls who often get solos, some 3-members subunit (with a popular center), some 5-members subunit (with a popular center). in AKB it could be like giving solo songs to Naachan or Moeka (good singers), duet with Rinrin and Yuihan (ballad/calm songs), 3-members subunit with Yuiyui center together with Satopii and Naruchan (colorful/cute image), 5-members subunit with Miion, Renacchi, Miu, Komiharu, Yuiri (mature image)... I'm just giving examples. and it doesn't have to be all in the same single, just 1-2 of them in every single, with Pv's too, and switch in next single and so on like Keyaki does. it's a perfect way to make popular girls actually become really popular and "kami" members that people recognize. and then for the less popular AKB members, they do musicals, events, skits and all kind of things that can promote them, and of course the theater.
I'm just throwing ideas and we know that this will never happen, but it's sad because these are all ideas that either AKB used to do, or that some groups (like Sakamichi) currently do, so it shouldn't be "impossible", but yeah they won't make it happen for AKB, sadly ._.
Don't forget Kanji and Hiragana team
You didn't seems to follow Kouhaku well? For 2017 and 2018 they bought in external producer as a revamp, and the problem is now that now every member got a performance anymore. And the performance seems to aim at non-48fans than 48fans. That is why it is so boring in 2017-2018.
HS sales has been declining the past few year. Only AKB48 members that regularly sell out are Naachan, Yuirii, and Yuiyui. Mion doesn't usually sold out even half of the slot atm. Most members don't out even single slot. I believe it is just the fact that there are waaaay more members to spread the same amount of sale.
Janken is just a cosplay stage, really.
Denden Muchu, 7byou-go, Kimi ga Suki ni naru, and now Su-cheese are all positioned to be the same. They just don't push it further... we don't know why.
Yep, there are more promotions for latest / upcoming releases than they did in the past years.
*advantage of DVD : skip less interesting parts*, overall I still enjoy it for the pecular performances they do.
It may be a consequence of less concerts through the year, and less occasion for promotion on TV shows.
I'm fine that they keep the janken tournament for it's main purpose: having a release not choosed by management nor fans.
They need to put more efforts in promoting the resulting single, and perhaps have some views on a longer run. This year one desserved a better treatment. The winning girls came with an interesting theme and their MV was well done IMO.
I mean I've watched all of them...so take that as u want lol. I barely remember the 2018 one and that wasn't that long ago lol. But even tho it seems like they're trying to improve it still falls flat.
Janken would have been fun if all the units got to perform something. As it is, it's such a non event. Most of the girls who make the finals are unknown so no one really cares for their cosplays. And then the winner gets next to no promotion. Meh.
Kouhaku is just terribly boring. And like the girls can't sing so having them sing stuff like Chandelier, On My Own and True Colours is just kind of painful.
which kouhaku ?
last year they got higher rating than both nogi or keyaki though
Annual AKB Kouhaku
a collection of showroom reaction to ssk cancellation
So sousenkyo is officially done for
This year, at least.
I wouldn't be surprised if they rebooted it in 2020 right before/during the Olympics or something.