Discussion in 'General AKB48 Discussion' started by Kyobu, Jun 16, 2007.
I don't follow SKE lol
Naachan, YuiYui, Yukirin, Miion, Zukkii and Yuihan will perform 'favourite hit songs' tomorrow morning (11/22) on 'Minna DE Domo-kun!' on NHK BS Premium at 08:00 JST:
I know lol, we both Sakurazaka afterall. Which is why your idea of bringing different type of sub-groups while SKE only has 1 subgroup (not 2 or more) this year which had done much, yet still not reached your ear, a risky idea that set them up to be anothers one-time unit.
Otoh, I'm neutral if you proposed AKB subgroups to follow NMB subunits success footstep, even their image.
I think I understand a little what my NMB friend said with "Akihabara Sister Group" means.
Practice for the real thing
In case you couldn't watch it
btw about how much content 48G have nowadays... I had NO plans to watch anything today... and I ended up watching (some with full, most with little concentration in background)...
Part 2 of the esports stream because I saw Fujizono Rei was in it (60 min)
Shobu Marin's new YT video because she announced a premiere on Twitter (15 min)
Shobu Marin's instalive right after (40 min)
Sadano Haruka's instalive because it was on after Marin's ended (5 min)
Takahashi Sayaka's SR because I saw she had an announcement (40 min)
Takahashi Sayaka's new YT video which was the announcement (5 min)
Fujizono Rei's SR which didn't look interesting enough to watch but I randomly heard interesting info so I did a bit (5 min)
NMB single bonuses, which I had opened even before the esports stream and only at this time I got to watch them (75 min)
NMB show from last week because why not when I'm already at bilibili (45 min)
NMB fan podcast (120 min)
that's more than 6 hours of content in one day and that's only Eito and NMB. I probably spent some 30 more minutes in total browsing their SNS. I didn't even watch any SR replays today which I usually do. AKB is so much fun to follow even in 2020!!
So much outcry over AKB not releasing another single this year. I'm not sure that would have helped much really, seeing Japan is entering Corona's 3rd wave...
Singles/albums affects everything for musical acts. And make no mistake, 48G ARE musical groups. It is their main delivery vehicle for everything. Without it, they have not much at all.
For example, NMB just released two singles in three months, and they are the 48 group with the most positive reactions from fans, the public, and the industry.
Yoshida Akari's masterful handling of her graduation played a big part as well.
Meanwhile, AKB has not released a proper single since before Covid-19 hit. And look at all the doom n gloom reactions from fans, the public, and the industry.
Acknowledging their fuckup in handling the NGT scandal would helps heaps as well, but that ship has apparently sailed for DH.
"But NMB did not sell well." I would submit they sold really well, all things (including Covid) considered. Also, now is definitely not the time to be worried about selling astronomical amounts. It's about doing all you can to not fade into obscurity while the world holds it collective breath for a vaccine. And singles are a big part of that for 48.
"But the HS event backlog..." Never stopped AKB from releasing before, and no real reasons why that should hold them back this time.
"But they can't sell HS tix with the new single." 1. Bull .
2. NMB, SKE, STU, all figured it out, AKB can as well.
Maybe time to rethink HS events, 48G and it's fans. It is a new era afterall. Reiwa, folks.
Apart from NMB/STU having 2 singles this year, the rest of the Japanese 48G release only 1 single. AKB is the OG of all, but it doesn't mean I'm interested in singling out the group.
Well, this is the AKB general thread, so.... Yeah.
That said. HKT was floundering, until they opened their theater (BIG news for them), and they have good and growing local business support (thanks to some smart maneuvering by Mercury).
SKE are floundering right now. Thanks to some real fugged up in the head office. (Having Jurina AND Churi hold off their grads with no end in sight, no way that is helping any). And guess what, New Single senbatsu announcement tonight. Hmmmmmm.
What does AKB have for big news? Losses left and right. DH is trying, just not hard enough and/or not using the correct toolsets.
It's almost like DH is just AKS renamed. Oh wait, it is. There's their problem. Miichan not graduating also is not helping, but not hurting as much SKE with Jurina & Churi.
is there any more information about the esports tournament? I'm assuming we'll be able to watch it online.
I mean... my reply was about AKB at first, then you brought out other groups not me.
I'd like to see a new single as well, but maybe I'm just not that fussed about it seeing the girls & DH are trying hard on other activities.
That was to highlight why so many are fussed about the lack of singles. My point was and still is about AKB.
Tickets for online viewing are still open. Otherwise, info is all on twitter or the Official Blog/Website.
Just don't ask for pirate streams. That's not allowed here, per the site rules.
imo these are the only relevant bits. I watched both of the esports videos as well and obviously they were quite long and interesting, but... individual girls are doing showroom all the time and let's be honest, people who aren't interested in AKB48 and its members to begin with won't watch their showrooms, instalives or youtube videos.
I have to agree with @hjr1891, NMB is really the most interesting group at the moment because they're the only ones doing things that are also relevant to non 48g fans. They're releasing new music and holding concerts. They stilled peaked Oricon, even if people wanna say they didn't sell well.
I spent nearly four or five hours yesterday watching AKB48's Mechaike specials (Dissolution Dokkiri and Bakajo test), as well as a few episodes of Hiragana Oshi (Keyakizaka46 variety show). I don't know, it's just nothing grand.
Makes sense when you put it that way. I still think it's something they should give a try though. Admittedly I stopped paying attention to SKE around 2017 lol so only know a handful of members from that era who are still around. AKB and NMB on the other hand, I kept following them both, so i'm more able to compare the two and how they've dealt with their most popular girls leaving.
I mean, look at Nob3 and Diva, French Kiss and Not Yet. All their members were staples of senbatsu and/or prominent members of the group. At the time I only really knew Kami 7, but those sub groups helped me learn the other senbatsu members. I think it also helped the girls with curating their own idol image with a themed unit that suits their characters. That's where I was going with the NMB unit's, they helped a lot of fans get to know the newer members and the popular members from this new era.
I think the main goal for AKB right now is to get their fans to learn who the new members are, so that they want to support the new girls as well and not move onto other groups. That's what worked for me as a new fan of AKB back then. Once they've established a batch of girls as the new faces of AKB, they can proceed with promoting them. Right now AKB senbatsu just feels very individualistic to me and i think sub units could help remedy this.
I absolutely agree with everything you said, nvmea, what a beautiful post, seriously!
well seen from that perspective, sure, although in general IG and YT (and Tiktok) are surely excellent and proven ways to attract new young fans
my point was that there is so much content that even if you just jump from one live/now released thing to another you can easily fill almost your whole day, and that even if you follow only 2 groups - but it's virtually impossible to even follow more groups seriously just because of the sheer amount of content there is.
the content for people already in the environment is not any less important. After all, while NMB's single releases and concerts were beneficial, it's only half of the success - the other half was the adoption of the "modern" SNS and constant production of new interesting content, and even if some of it maybe couldn't attract completely new people, it certainly did very well in keeping their own fans engaged, finding out more about more girls, and attracting fans of other groups (which did hardly anything).
AKB releasing a new single would be cool - I guess, I don't care at all personally - but they're simply failing even in trying to compensate for it appropriately with other channels like NMB have done, so I'm not really sure if the single itself could change that much when the problems are rather structural.
I'm happy I inadvertently started this wholesome meme. We need more positivity in the AKB fandom (but fuck Aoki!)
OK, honey. Here's my prediction for the next single a.k.a. (no pun intended) DH's wet dream.
Team A: Iriyama Anna, Okabe Rin, Oguri Yui, Chiba Erii, Nishikawa Rei, Mukaichi Mion, Yokoyama Yui
Team K: Kuranoo Narumi, Minegishi Minami, Muto Tomu
Team B: Omori Maho, Kashiwagi Yuki, Kubo Satone, Honda Hitomi
Team 4: Okada Nana, Murayama Yuiri, Yamauchi Mizuki
Team E: Suda Akari
Team M: Shiroma Miru
Team BII: Umeyama Cocona, Yamamoto Mikana
Team H: Tanaka Miku, Yabuki Nako
Team KIV: Miyawaki Sakura
NGT48: Homma Hinata
STU48: Ishida Chiho, Takino Yumiko
Graduates: Maeda Atsuko, Oshima Yuko
that's why I don't care about the new single! Erii is the only decent choice there! What a crappy group!
To think you used to love Dasu.