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[GENERAL] The AKB48 Thread

Discussion in 'General AKB48 Discussion' started by Kyobu, Jun 16, 2007.

  1. wlerin

    wlerin Kenkyuusei

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    I don't disagree with it. I do disagree with going the opposite direction.
     
  2. David61

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    I'm a big fan of Tano Yuka and for me the worst part of last year's SSK was seeing the despair etched on her face as it became ever clearer that she wasn't going to rank in the top 80. Later on when the 81-100 ranks were announced she came in at #99. My question is, would it be less painful if girls who get a ranking between 81 & 100 get to know that early on, or would it be better for them if they can keep alive some hope of a higher ranking?
     
  3. rka

    rka Kenkyuusei Stage48 Donor

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    You would just shift the burden 20 girls down the ladder.

    One could announce spots 100 - 81 without speeches, though, just to save time.
     
  4. Trinu

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    No, but the concert and the ssk itself are already like 5 hours.
    That's a lot.
    Or maybe it's just me.

    STU won't participate this year, so the only additions would be the new waves of KKS.
    Those amount to... what? 60?
    How many graduations have we had in the past year? Obviously not so many, but between those and all the girls who will step down, I doubt the number of applicants will grow much.

    So yeah, no sense in extending it to 100.

    I do like the idea of announcing the next 20 spots at a later date though.
    Like "girls, fans, maybe do better next year?" as cruel as it sounds.

    I think they'll use the Top 48 thing for Kouhaku.
    Cause you know the SG aren't gonna get invited ever again and it was a nice gimmick with some tangible prizes in the new single, as we've seen, so I'm sure fans and girls will take it even more seriously next time.
     
  5. VincentS

    VincentS Kenkyuusei

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    Limit speech time. Upcoming & Future 60sec. Next & Under 90sec. Senbatsu free.
    That would speed things up big time.
    Well given that Dasu v 2.0 doesnt happen...

    The concert that takes place is also uneccesary long. Each Group 1 song. Last years senbatsu 1 song and be done with it.
     
  6. wlerin

    wlerin Kenkyuusei

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    Frankly unless you're actually attending the concert in person I don't see what the complaint is about. Too long? Don't watch the whole thing.
     
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  7. marioworldakb

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    I liked last year's SSK format flow, just limit the speech time only to 48th place and it's all good.

    But idk they need to increase the bar to 100th cuz like someone said earlier there are almost equal amounts of girls entering and leaving in recent years

    Keep it to 80th is fine
     
  8. Nieru

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    True, just watch till your oshi ranks then you're done. Last year once it got into the senbatsu I just left for dinner lol. too long
     
  9. Trinu

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    I'm thinking from the POV of someone who's there. :^^;:

    Heck, I have a hard time in many concerts because between opening acts and the main artists themselves it can take to 3 hours.
    Maybe I'm getting old or whatever, but if I have a hard time standing/sitting for 3 hours, I can't imagine how boring it must be for the girls who sit there for 4 or 5 hours seeing the ranking girls go down and give their speech and whatnot.
     
  10. wlerin

    wlerin Kenkyuusei

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    So make it two days instead of just one (actually three, with the night-after concert) -- 100-33 on day one (or 100-17), and the top ranks on day 2, after a second concert.
     
  11. hjr1891

    hjr1891 Kenkyuusei

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    Cut the speeches short. There is absolutely no need for any acceptance speech to be longer than 10-15 secs. Anything more can be just as easily conveyed through the members social message networks.

    Unlimited time for the Top16? Absurd.

    Also, take FujiTV out of the equation. Their commercials interrupt the show, and add the need for longer MCs. Thus drawing out the event.
     
  12. Reveen

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    Disagree, if you're going to hire an outdoor stadium for several days (including setup and rehearsals) then you need to maximize revenue.

    SSK is fine the way it is. For those complaining...it's one f*****g day out of the year.
     
  13. wlerin

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    Their commercials also help pay for the event, unfortunately.
     
  14. hrs0722

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    Yeah, if there were 100 spots last year, Tano would rank but her rank still harshly dropped.

    Other things I'm noticing:

    1. Miorin would rank, because she failed to rank last year, her fans were aggressive on NHK Kouhaku voting, she finished 10th. Because she & Akarin were tremendous on this voting, they're now on senbatsu of Shoot Sign. It's 2nd time for her to be senbatsu of an AKB48 single since Manatsu no Sounds Good.
    2. Shiichan, Seichan, & Rion would rank.
    3. There would be 3 native NGT48 members rank instead of just 1. Beside Katomina, Rikahime & Ogiyuka would rank. Even Ogiyuka would rank higher (95th) than Rikahime (96th).
    4. Too bad, among 81st-100th no any member of Team 8.
     
  15. ForrestFuller

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    3rd Actually (She was in Labrador Retriever).
     
  16. Silenka

    Silenka Kenkyuusei Stage48 Donor

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    Also think about the incentive for fans. The harder spots are to get, the more fans will be thinking "I better buy a few extra CDs just in case..."
    Some girls are such a longshot to make it into the top 80 that certain groups of fans are just happy to get a member a ranking, no matter where that ranking is. If that's increased to Top 100, the pressure to buy more CDs is eased up a little on people who think their girl is going to comfortably rank into low tier anyway. The more spots their are, the less pressure there is for certain types of buyers.

    Just from a pure marketing standpoint, of course.
    (Obviously there are still going to be a lot of people who go all in regardless of how many spots/how likely someone is to rank).
     
  17. hjr1891

    hjr1891 Kenkyuusei

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    The idea is to get your girl as high rank as possible, not to just barely rank.
     
  18. Silenka

    Silenka Kenkyuusei Stage48 Donor

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    People's wallets don't always agree. There's a fine line between "I have enough money to buy more votes" and "hmm, I'm going to be eating ramen for a while but it's worth it..."
     
  19. EinhanderX

    EinhanderX Kenkyuusei

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    The increase of votes number in the lower bracket last year blurred this line so much there should be a graph about exploding demand of ramen post-SSK somewhere on the web.

    For girls with decent fanbase, yes. Not so for say, fanbase of unranked one.
     
  20. Reveen

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    Tanamin's fans say Hi ;)
     

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