[GENERAL] THE JKT48 thread!

Discussion in 'General JKT48 Discussion' started by Mr Waffle, Feb 12, 2012.

  1. oniqlo

    oniqlo Kenkyuusei

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    Well I guess now JKT48 reach 1 gen/ year ratio.
     
  2. Akira Maruni Harvestrainer48

    Akira Maruni Harvestrainer48 Kenkyuusei

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    @vshav I don't know this is true or no
    ._.

    From fans which have been found in FB, that fans have requested the original song, he said that the song is in under construction, but... there is no any continuation about that song (maybe, saved, reuse/recycle, or scrapped).
    ._. (Notes: That management can make surprise)

    Another fans said that the problem is "Indonesian Culture" and "Indonesia Language", but I think, Aki-P can send Japanese lyric and will be translated later.
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    #cmiiw
     
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  3. ootamudkip

    ootamudkip Kenkyuusei

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    Mainly because all the song from 48Group have to be written by Aki-p and I don't think he's really interested to create original song for non Japan 48G. Considering the fact that the music demand in here aren't as high as Japan so they probably doesn't see it as profitable in Japan.

    Define well? if by selling number they still manage to sell quite high compare to other mainstream artist, while for popularity I don't think the songs aren't that popular. They have so little window between release to promote them properly that the people outside the fandom rarely heard the songs. From what I see their popularity are on the stagnant state (if not declining) but IMO most mainstream artist in here are in that state too. The rise of streaming service such as spotify or Joox among the people make it difficult to create another breakthrough outside the fandom since everyone have their own playlist and doesn't bother to check those that aren't their taste.
     
  4. hrs0722

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    I heard it's 2. JKT48 is recruiting every January & June? Maybe they're gonna eliminate some failed members as part of The Reboost.
     
  5. gwahaha

    gwahaha Kenkyuusei

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    Should we make wiki48 page about the latest (mini) shuffle? If yes, I will make it now.
     
  6. algae27

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    Yes, I think the main problem was because it was not profitable. In JPN SG, at least it would contribute to AKS or the mothership group one way or another, but outside, it only serves to give profit to the local industry, whatever profit it may be. Foreign SG is first and foremost a tool to promote AKB48 and Japan.

    ...at least that what it was, when JKT is the only foreign SG for a while that doesnt go rogue. With BNK on the rise, MNL, and TPE, there might be a chance that things could go better for theese SG group; I.E. getting their own song in their own image and their own language.

    Tho the pessimist side of me couldn't help but wonder; is it too late for JKT? They have tried and failed to catch on the hype momentum for a long while, even when JPN 48 has given them chances to appeal (by giving them chances to perform and participate in 48 Japan).

    I wish AKS gave JKT more room for local creator to experiment with JKT. I'm sure there are a lot of music writer and choreographer who have expressed interest to create songs and dance for JKT, but couldnt, since EVERYTHING needed a Japanese stamp on it.

    This gave me hope for our GM Melo to make it happen, though.
     
  7. CherryBlossom48

    CherryBlossom48 Kenkyuusei

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    @algae27 Anji admit it that he want to write a song for jkt but can't get permission from aks
     
  8. algae27

    algae27 Kenkyuusei

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    Yes, exactly!
    Ok, so it might not be idol-ish song the way Japan would do it... at least do an intermediary? Try to het some locals to harmonize and produce the best of both worlds? T.T
     
  9. ootamudkip

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    You mean by not participating in AKB ssk? IMO the only reason they didn't go is because they don't have any financial support for them to go to Japan. If you pay attention closely most of JKT activity in Japan are sponsored, not to mention since the SSK is during Eid the price of airplane ticket will skyrocket. I think economically it's wise for them not to participate in SSK this year.
     
  10. CherryBlossom48

    CherryBlossom48 Kenkyuusei

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    @ootamudkip i think what @algae27 mean is if jkt release original single it's not profitable for the aks
     
  11. Akira Maruni Harvestrainer48

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    IMO, may be profitable if it's original setlist (a setlist is contain at least 10 songs or more). Beware that staff can give surprise for us sometimes. :blush:
     
  12. hrs0722

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    Save to say that Ayana's purpose to "mudik" to Japan is actually to represent JKT48 at AKB48 Group Emergency Meeting. MNL48 also send their representatives.

    I hope it gives so much profits for JKT48. Um, AFter it finished, Ayana to return to Indonesia with Taniguchi Megu or/and Kawamoto Saya? Well, kidding. wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
     
  13. ootamudkip

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    Does she even get paid just by attending the meeting? idk if a kaigai member will be a good idea since JKT limiting their team member (unless they create a special spot for kennin), however if they decided to do it the kaigai member must've at least 21 y.o. since they need to get a working visa.
     
  14. algae27

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    The best sort of decision would be where they would get ori content, but chances of that are near zero lol

    What exactly do they do in these kind of meeting, if one may ask? :3

    @ootamudkip do you suppose they choose Ayana not only because she's the one most likely to understand whats going on, but also hitchhike on her family's mudik trip to Japan since she might have gone there anyway for holiday? lol
     
  15. hrs0722

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    Will there be world sousenkyo again next year. Then JKT48 has to join!

    Just do the same with BNK48, though there're 10 members joined but fans only focused at 2. Well, JKT48 can just send Yupi & Shani. What to do now is to unite fans & the hardest part is that how to raise a huge amount of money. Music votes are equal to 4.2 billion rupiah.
     
  16. algae27

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    Wait... how u do the math again? The singles cost +-1500Yen each isnt it? It's about 150-170K in rupiah not including tax. In my calc, for Cherprang it showed around 4trillion or so in RP. For the other one, it should still be around double digit billions of Rp, if we count on pure local fans with the normal buying methods. That's like, a lot of money...

    EDIT: wait, nvm, I thought you wrote 4.2 MILLIONS lol sleep deprived

    Btw what are you guys' opinion on the lack of participation of JKT in AKB SSK now that it's over? For me personally, it just made me realize more how badly JKT need this ReBoost thing do their home cleaning, and respected the mgmt's decision to sit out.
     
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  17. ootamudkip

    ootamudkip Kenkyuusei

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    They need to implement reboost properly to strengthen fanbase condition. It's a good thing that JKT didn't participate in this year ssk, it'll be a complete waste of money with the current fanbase condition IMO
     
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  18. oniqlo

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    IMHO participation in AKB SSK is mostly wasting fans money, the actual financial benefit that all goes to AKB48 which too expensive for a glimpse of exposure. Personally I don't mind at all if JKT never participate in it. Don't forget JKT as group already participate at multiple big concert and event at Japan.
     
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  19. hrs0722

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    What JKT48 needs most are dedicating fans. Fans have to stop fighting each others.
     
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  20. FMecha

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    Remember that TPE didn't even rank this year.
     

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