[GENERAL] The NGT48 Thread

Discussion in 'General NGT48 Discussion' started by ForrestFuller, Jan 25, 2015.

  1. SaitoWinterStar

    SaitoWinterStar Kenkyuusei Stage48 Donor

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    Some excerpts from my translations of the Japanese summaries:

    From https://saitowinterstar.com/archives/593


    From https://saitowinterstar.com/archives/617

     
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  2. minaeshi

    minaeshi Rank 81-100 (Temporary Name)

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    Their TIF is at 9:10 so literally no one is going to see them lol, whats the point
     
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  3. Tuhis

    Tuhis Kenkyuusei

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    I showed up at 9:30 today and plenty of people around.
     
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  4. minaeshi

    minaeshi Rank 81-100 (Temporary Name)

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    did you manage to catch the performance? if so how did it go, what was the reception like?
     
  5. Dill

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    Edit: Wondered it too... but NGT is tomorrow
     
  6. wlerin

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    The announcement says the members chose which services they would continue using, rather than being prohibited from some. (Besides the kenkyuusei of course.)
     
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  7. SaitoWinterStar

    SaitoWinterStar Kenkyuusei Stage48 Donor

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    I assume that was the poster's opinion, not from the announcement.
     
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  8. Tuhis

    Tuhis Kenkyuusei

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    Yep, in about 3 hours. Won’t be able to catch it, going to Hiroshima.
     
  9. nokoru

    nokoru Kenkyuusei

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    Seems NGT has attracted many fans.
     

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  10. wlerin

    wlerin Upcoming Girls

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    It's not great for TIF standards, but considering the late announcement and the early slot it's still pretty good.

    Various articles:
    https://mdpr.jp/music/detail/1856842
    https://natalie.mu/music/news/342322
    https://thetv.jp/news/detail/200062/
    http://www.wws-channel.com/girls2/157754.html

    Hybrid of the ModelPress and Natalie articles (switches from mdpr to mostly natalie around Yuka's opening speech)*:

    From August 2nd to 4th, for three consecutive days, the TOKYO IDOL FESTIVAL 2019 is being held in the area of Odaiba and Aomi. On the 2nd day (August 3rd), NGT48 performed.

    They performed at the "SMILE GARDEN" stage in Fuji TV Wangan Studio Park. Because of the controversy surrounding the assault of a former member--Yamaguchi Maho--the group had suspended many of its activities, but they are resuming their essential activities.

    On the 1st of the month it was suddenly announced that NGT48 would be performing in a new time slot from 09:10 to 09:30, ahead of the Radio Exercise stage that usually opens the day. Since the early morning a large audience had gathered in front of the venue, and staff called out "Let's cheer together as one!" to everyone in front of the stage.

    Hearing the members' voices in their huddle before the show, the audience got charged up too. Then, wearing red and white uniforms that hearken back to their origins, all 34 current members came on stage.

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    First, before singing, Ogino Yuka lifted her microphone, gave a greeting, and with the whole group bowed deeply. She continued with appreciation for the event, "We wanted to perform with all 34 members of NGT48, and after asking this of the staff they allowed us to stand here on this stage today. I'm than from the bottom of my heart." Occasionally struggling with her words, she continued, "I'm grateful to the TIF staff and everyone else who was involved in giving us a place to perform like this--even though the time schedule had already been decided. And, in the hopes of being accepted again by everyone who cheered for us since debut and all those who were supporting us in Niigata prefecture--and so that all the fans who are cheering for us now will think it was good to hold on and believe, we want to continue on from here performing with all our might and working as hard as we can."

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    Before a large audience gathered to watch the stage, in response to Ogino's cry of "TOKYO IDOL FESTIVAL 2019 IKUZOー!" the NGT48 live performance started with their first original song from their 2016 debut, "Max Toki 315go". Then they continued on without a break into two of their single songs, "Seishun Dokei" and "Haru wa Doko kara kuru no ka?". Next, they performed the research student song, "Kyou wa Make demo ii", with Kato Minami, who had been demoted to research student after an inappropriate SNS post in May, singing with a smile in the front row.

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    After the fourth song, Ogino expressed her gratitude, "Until we got here I was worried about how many people would turn up, but my heart is filled with thankfulness to see how many of you came to see us even in this heat." Their last song, Ogino's center song "Sekai wa Doko made Aozora na no ka?", was full of power. Homma Hinata, in closing, said "I'm really really happy to be on stage at TIF again this year. Thank you everyone who came so early in the morning and gave us such loud voices of encouragement. All of us in NGT48 want to give it all we've got from here on out again, so please treat us kindly." Then the members bowed their heads and the audience gave warm applause.


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    Turns out, just because an article seems to have more words doesn't mean it actually says more, or anything sensible.
     
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  11. Dill

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    Someone talks about inflated numbers NGT is giving to media... which won't surprise me at all even in normal circumstances.
    What I noticed in my side of twitter is that the info about their performance is near zero, which is quite weird. Yesterday it was filled by other groups video.
     
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  12. SaitoWinterStar

    SaitoWinterStar Kenkyuusei Stage48 Donor

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    Some excerpts from my translation of the 8/3 summary here: https://saitowinterstar.com/archives/632
     
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  13. primermicarrucha

    primermicarrucha Kenkyuusei

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    oh yeah mhmm... literally thousands* (not appearing in this (or any) photo are apparently 3 or 4000 other attendees)

    *according to people who make shit up for a living
     
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    Before "Maho's case" people used to believe this group was better than really is. Now people believe it's worse than really is. They're simply not as special as people think they are.
     
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  15. Cisalpine88

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    Honestly? What has killed NGT48 for me was the general opportunism, pusillanimity, "passing the bucket around in a circle" kind of indifference mixed with detachment from others, and the "first to apologize/admit to one's own faults loses" sort of undignified mentality which is oh-so very distinctive of "black kigyou" enterprises nowadays (needless to say, long gone are the days when the '80s myths of Japanese ethics, especially work-related ones, still persisted on in everyone's consciousness).

    Fair-weather "captains" (I hope such a joke of a position will no longer be used in the group for here on, at least for the sake of preserving what dignity is left, since no one who's still there is fit to fill the role) who used to run off at their little mouths with pretty words about solidarity and whatnot, only to devolve into an "every man for themselves" mindset and rush into hiding into their fuhrerbunkers (or alternatively have fun at the onsen, then to the Tokyo Tower, before getting handsy with their manager for a good time) at the slightest sign of hardship, until the problems simply is no longer current news, because at the end of the day they are more concerned about preserving their status-quo.
    Big-headed and ineffectual theater managers who love to blow hot air around when it's time for them to receive praise over empty promises, but literally run away and make themselves unreachable to the local press looking for them when it's time to fulfill their due responsabilities, as if he is some sort of top wanted bandit.
    Wotas are forgetful and easily duped, but good luck being taken seriously by the public at large by repeating these exact same drivel now. And you, Hayakawa, you may go ahead and post again another one of those staged birthday videos that follow all the same formula to the point of creepiness. These ostentations are more pathetic in their attempts than anything else.

    Add also to that the double-facedness, complete lack of honesty and trasparency in telling how things really stand (another example, in addition to the lies fed by the management itself to Sponichi & co. over these months is, as we have seen, the purported 4000 -- or maybe 2000, the Ministry of Truth is still out -- people at a venue which was largely empty at the time of the show). Veiled attempts at character assassination of who came ahead to speak out in the first place, by using less than honorable media outlets, all to try and snuff out the controversy in the way I pointed out before. An approach to the issue that can only be described as ballsless and toothelss, not to mention deliberately asking to be taken advantage of for how clueless it is (yeah, Hayakawa, I am sure that telling Inaoka, Tanku or whoever of those yakkai subhumans who were purposedly standing in front of the NGT48 stage at TIF "Please don't come once again, you are being troublesome", complete with polite speech and all, will teach them the lessons of their lifetime after it all happened and they got away with, considering that they have been through worse shit back when the AKB manager was still Togasaki, who at least was prone to smashing stuff).
    And I'm not even beginning to talk about the core issue here, just the response to it they showed.

    So, in conclusion, my best wishes to the three who graduated from this group and the AnshinAnzen 7 who volunteered to show up at the graduation stage. Shame on all the assorted sellouts instead.

    Side note: if you are bothered and can't really help it, argue back and don't leave a reverse thumb-up. This too is a sign of pusillanimity.
     
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  16. Mr. Take It Easy

    Mr. Take It Easy Kenkyuusei

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    Maho killed the group and then left
     
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  17. mai48_

    mai48_ Kenkyuusei

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    And it was totally worth it.

    But no really, if going by your expression, it was management committing suicide, slowly and painfully so, involving problematic fans as accomplices and some members as accessories to it.
     
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  18. EinhanderX

    EinhanderX Stage48 Moderator Staff Member Stage48 Moderator

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    Remember what Cristafari said to you in April 2018?

    I won't ask you to remember it. But if you ask me, we(you included) probably are part of those two opportunist pussalinium or something as well.

    Which is why I won't say anything.
     
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  19. nokoru

    nokoru Kenkyuusei

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  20. marioworldakb

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    ^ That dislike lol
     

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