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[GENERAL] The Nogizaka46 thread!

Discussion in 'General Nogizaka46 Discussion' started by Mr Waffle, Feb 19, 2012.

  1. Seditious85

    Seditious85 Upcoming Girls

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    Simple, we all have our own taste and preferences. Yoda isn't on the top of my list either (but rising over time, I might add). Some members require some time investment to appreciate as well (Maaya in my case). But there is no formula, and that's the beauty of it.
     
  2. Nogipunch

    Nogipunch Kenkyuusei

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    I think I worded wrong, don't mean she isn't cute. Maybe just my opinion, but I always found Yamashita Mizuki and Sato Kaede with greatest visual from 3rd gen, but I always see fandom mentioning Yoda and see her getting to Senbatsu every time. I started to just watch every subbed variety shows and currently still watching Nogichuu and Nogibingo and so far 3rd gen is slowly being highlighted, but they still aren't that great at variety yet.
     
  3. tiktok

    tiktok Upcoming Girls

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    She is cute for majority. Not only about her face, but also her gesture. Her clueless reactions attracting more fans. Fans love her imoutoness vibe. She is never trying too hard to seeking attentions. And all made her effortlessly cute.


    This kind of effortless have been made Nogi member rise in popularity. Naachan, Ashu, and Yoda in cute category. While Maiyan is effortless beauty, Ikuchan is effortless fun and dork, Nanamin were effortless cool.


    Ppls even comparing Yoda's cuteness with Hashimoto Kanna.
     
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  4. baymon

    baymon Kenkyuusei

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    Different people different taste. I never get Sato Kaede appeal, never think she is pretty as well. 3rd gen visual for me has always been Momoko, Renka and Mizuki. Kubo and Ume comes next. I don't really find Yoda very pretty as well, just cute. But visual is just one thing. 'Chara' is usually what makes people oshi-ing someone.
     
  5. Doraleous

    Doraleous Kenkyuusei

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    Hey, um, I just recently got into AKB (or 48G in general), like 3 months ago.

    So I had a real newbie question, what is the difference in concept/theme of Nogizaka46 to AKB?

    Why should someone prefer one over the other other than randomly liking this or that member looks/personality?

    Know nothing about Nogizaka, sorry if it's a stupid question.
     
  6. Seditious85

    Seditious85 Upcoming Girls

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    The music.
     
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  7. TargaK

    TargaK Kenkyuusei

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    If I were to metaphorically compare the two groups to countries, Nogizaka would be that centralized, unitary country where everybody speaks the same language, over 99% of the population is of the same ethnicity and so on (think Japan). Akb would be that decentralized multicultural federation (think USA).
    Nogizaka is a much stricter group in terms of rules (like members not being allowed to have social media accounts, strict SR schedules and so on) and has clearly had less scandals (it has some, but few) than AKB . Nogizaka is clearly more focused on the cute and innocent concept and has a cleaner image in comparasion to AKB who is a mix of a lot of different types of girls. Also, while member rivalry exists in Nogizaka, it is clearly less of a thing compared to akb.
     
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  8. Gofindnova

    Gofindnova Kenkyuusei

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    I’m not sure if you’re asking about 48G or only AKB48, so to clarify, there are two big umbrella organizations, 48G (sometimes referred to as AKB) and Sakamichi. AKB48 was the 1st 48G group. Nogizaka was the 1st Sakamichi group, founded as the “official rival” to AKB48. But the differences are similar whether you’re comparing the two organizations or just the two groups.

    48G has more groups and more members, with groups further split into teams. There’s a wider range of idol types catering to niche interests. On the flip side, it’s harder for individuals to get exposure. There’s also more intermingling and transferring between 48G groups. Sakamichi has kept their group cap at around 46 members so far. Every group (or even team in 48G) has their own image, which influences the type of music they produce or members they recruit. Keyakizaka, Hinatazaka, and Nogizaka roughly correspond to cool, cute, and beautiful.

    Nogizaka has a classier image and emphasizes more traditionally non-idol industries like acting, modeling, musicals, cultural events, etc. Their gravure is more conservative than AKB, though it can still be lewd. They still do stupid variety stuff on TV, but it’s overall a bit more restrained.

    Nogizaka has recently overtaken AKB in terms of sales and career/promotion opportunities. But AKB’s brand is so established that it’s still synonymous with idols, especially overseas. 48G also has sister groups in foreign countries and has done stuff like Produce48 with Korea.

    Rivalry and drama is a bigger part of 48G’s culture/appeal. Even within Sakamichi, Nogizaka’s image is a group where everyone gets along. (I’d even guess Nogi members are discouraged from revealing conflict whereas some AKB conflict is manufactured.) One of the biggest differences is that 48G holds a yearly sousenkyo (SSK) popularity contest based on members’ individual sales that determines rankings. This encourages idols to compete harder to win fans. Rankings in Sakamichi can be influenced by popularity but are decided by management. However, 48G’s SSK has been canceled this year. Management claims the hiatus was planned, but everyone thinks it’s because of the NGT scandal.

    Speaking of which, Nogi and Sakamichi have had fewer scandals, partly attributable to tighter management and not being around as long. Management also seems to be relatively more lenient toward the few dating scandals, and Ikuta Erika has told her fans to calm down after she kissed men in musicals, lol. The NGT48 scandal is currently still making headlines in Japan, and the problems seem to go all the way to the top, so I guess you could say 48G management is more evil, at least that we know of.

    Not to tip the scales too much in Nogi’s favor, but if you want to know who would prefer Nogi vs AKB, why not ask the 146/338 members of 48G who considered joining Nogizaka when surveyed anonymously last year? There’s some discussion towards the bottom of that reddit thread about why that might be.
     
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  9. JuriRena

    JuriRena Rank 81-100 (Temporary Name)

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    Nogichans in NHK's Utacon right now...
    Found a link, go back around -6 min mark
    Hinachima subbed for Ringo.
     
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  10. Doraleous

    Doraleous Kenkyuusei

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    Hey, thanks for the very informative replies, guys. Really, thanks a bunch.

    I'll check more Nogizaka/Sakamichi stuff from now on, I was just hesitant because, you know, it's just too many names to keep up with, so I didn't want more of the same.

    Again, much appreciated.
     
  11. Generic_User

    Generic_User Rank 81-100 (Temporary Name) Stage48 Donor

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    Find which of the 3 Sakamichi groups you like the most and stick with them if you want to minimize the count if members you have to know.
     
  12. gish0046

    gish0046 Kenkyuusei

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    I suggest flash cards.
     
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  13. vshav

    vshav Kenkyuusei

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    Kakegurui is unexpectedly a good show. Nice cinematography and writing, hyperbolic acting that's bearable enough, and creative usage of texts on screen to maintain the surrealistic mood of the manga. Matsumura looks so cute too. She isn't acting per se, she's just being herself rebranded as a different name. It's like her chara that she builds up this far finally translated into a movie. The dress is cute too.

    Matsumura actually has lots of remembrance to Evangelion's Asuka, don't you think?
     
  14. Jumps_Zilla

    Jumps_Zilla Kenkyuusei

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    I have yet to watch season 2 of Kakegurui because I can't find eps with subs. :(

    Cheers!
     
  15. galangsatria

    galangsatria Upcoming Girls

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    So far only indo subs available.
    It might be released on netflix soon, just like the season 1.

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  16. Torigoya-San

    Torigoya-San Kenkyuusei

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    Just want to know, now with Marika and Ikoma graduated, who performs Kanjorokugosen with Sayunyan ?
     
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  17. sambelteri12

    sambelteri12 Rank 81-100 (Temporary Name)

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  18. Generic_User

    Generic_User Rank 81-100 (Temporary Name) Stage48 Donor

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    Hey is it that Kotoko can’t capitalize on this type of popularity? Management incompetence? Companies don’t want an unpopular member? Kotoko not wanting to work?
     
  19. sambelteri12

    sambelteri12 Rank 81-100 (Temporary Name)

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    It could be yes. I know she's beauty, but it's like something less on her beauty..
     
  20. kanjo

    kanjo Stage48 Admin Staff Member Stage48 Admin

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    Hello Nogizaka46 fans!

    This year I'm running the Stage48 Ranking. Click that link to take part and make your voice heard!

    Unfortunately, since I'm only a moderator and not an admin I cannot send a notification to all users like in previous years.
    Instead, I have to post to general threads like now. So you'll probably see this message in a bunch of threads. I'm sorry for the spam, but it's the only way to make sure everyone knows the ranking is on.

    Thank you.
     

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