[GENERAL] The STU48 Thread

Discussion in 'General STU48 Discussion' started by ForrestFuller, Mar 27, 2017.

  1. Jurinavenclaw

    Jurinavenclaw Kenkyuusei

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2010
    Location:
    Laguna, Philippines
    Oshimen:
    Matsui Jurina
  2. TiduShoko

    TiduShoko Kenkyuusei

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2013
    Location:
    Spain
    Oshimen:
    Komiyama Haruka
    Twitter:
    TiduAura
  3. Matsui Hikari

    Matsui Hikari Kenkyuusei

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2015
    Oshimen:
    Okada Nana
    Funny how management is saying that they choose Senbatsu based on HS when they are not even giving the girls an equal opportunity to get themselves out there. Some girls are not selected for both Setouchi no Koe and the first single yet they expect them to sell out/a lot. Plus, they don't even have any activities to promote the girls. SRs are useless because fans are more attracted to someone who they've heard of and not enter some random girl's broadcast. If Yumirin wasn't the center and getting promoted everywhere, she honestly wouldn't get the popularity she has right now. Sure, her SRs are fun and interesting but no one would know that if she didn't get her name out there by management. Same with Fuuchan. If it wasn't said that Fuuchan is Shuu's sister, she wouldn't get the popularity she has right now too. I bring up these two examples a lot not because I have something against them. It's because it's the truth.

    Sorry for the rant(?)
     
  4. EinhanderX

    EinhanderX Kenkyuusei

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2015
    On the contrary, SR denizen has accustomed to farm the stars used to support their girl by entering some random broadcast, even the non-48G one. Hence, SR are not entirely useless.
    I mean, Just ask Ishida Minami how far her SR carry her without Setouchi no Koe. STU still attract lots of curious(potential) new fans, afterall.
     
  5. Matsui Hikari

    Matsui Hikari Kenkyuusei

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2015
    Oshimen:
    Okada Nana
    Sure, you enter random SRs to accumulate stars but are you staying long enough to see what the girl has to offer?
     
  6. Megumibex

    Megumibex Kenkyuusei

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2017
    Oshimen:
    Iwasa Misaki
    Not always, but sometimes. Just like a girl might be in an mv but it doesn't necessarily mean you take the time to find out more about her afterwards.
     
  7. ET920

    ET920 Kenkyuusei

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2010
    Location:
    Buenos Aires, Argentina
    For example, there are a lot of NGT girls who wouldn't have been known if not for SR. Rikachan wouldn't have reached this kind of popularity as fast as she did without it. It might not help all the girls, but doesn't hurt them for sure.

    One of Kaho's fans got 100 tickets split in all dates, one of Harurun's fans got 300 tickets. Happy that Kaho got good movement, not only those lining for her but also there were lots of people who had bought tickets for others and dropped one ticket for her. They might not repeat later, but add to the overall movement. The SR buzzword helped them all, Akarin, Harurun and herself.
     
  8. EinhanderX

    EinhanderX Kenkyuusei

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2015
    Actually, not at the first try. But upon several visit, we (should) got a glimpse of each girls style in streaming and taking preference on what/who fit our taste. There's also peers opinion/review/recommendation to be taken into consideration as well.
     
  9. ET920

    ET920 Kenkyuusei

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2010
    Location:
    Buenos Aires, Argentina
    That's how I discovered both Hatsumichan (entry 5 of the 16gen) and Kahotaru (back when she was still a TPS model kenkyuusei). Truth is, if you are collecting stars the "old way", you are staying in a room for 30 seconds. If you are using the faster way (enter a room, tweet, leave) you probably won't get to see anything. But if you stay for a while you'll notice stuff. For 48G girls I follow them all, but if I were picky, I'd do what I do with other broadcasters: I don't follow them immediately, instead I watch them for a few seconds until getting the bonus, and whenever I go back if I remember something about them I consider following.

    Like, I remember Mihachan's old showrooms where she could stay 30 seconds completely quiet, not saying anything, and you could hear her clock ticking, that was eerie. Similarly, Kayoyon was speaking 100% of the time, so you could think she was making thoughtful replies to fans, but the longer you stayed the more you noticed she was just talking about stuff she wanted to, never glancing at what people were saying. For me that's also a waste of time. I'd have never followed someone like them. But Ogiyuka, if you drop by her room 2 or 3 times in a week you're likely to see her doing some silly stuff, so you might follow her due her entertainment factor, and Tanao and Harurun are always reading comments and replying, even tsukkoming people. I love that.

    The thing is, the girls should be able to leave you a lasting impression even if you stay for just 30 seconds, even if you don't know their name. Later, when someone mentions "the girl who's always wearing a hat" you associate the face you found somewhat interesting with a name, making it pretty easy to remember (been reading lots of books about studies techniques, memory, etc, and they say this kind of association last longer than associations done by repetition, like going every day to her room to watch her until you remember her, and then switching to another to repeat the process). And SR is free, you can try any number of times, whereas handshake events aren't, that's why the big guns only get stronger, because people prefer spending money on someone they got recommended than in unknown girls, whereas you're not likely to return to someone who wasn't as fun as you thought it would be in real life.
     
  10. marioworldakb

    marioworldakb Kenkyuusei

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2017
    Location:
    Hinachan's Cell House
    Oshimen:
    Kashiwagi Yuki
    Hahaha sorry I passed out half way through, too tired XD Gunna scan through the matome now to grab the rest of the day's report.

    DE3WfGgUAAA8x70.jpg

    It makes sense, profit always come first. And life is unfair as usual. Nothing you can do about it other than keep supporting your oshi and try your best to help your oshi by putting her out there on SNS in any way possible.

    I think fan community is a big factor to the success of a member. To my experience, spreading the love to people on how awesome and fun your oshi are is more useful than complaining why they deserve a push or whatever such and such. And some fans don't even go the extra mile to help promote their oshi and just be content with just their own entertainment. It's justified but it ain't helping your oshi is what I'm saying.

    SR is not useless at all which in fact, is the only way to get themselves out there like you and others have said.

    This HS event is one of the activities that they promote the girls right? Also not to mention radio shows, tv segments, PR events etc etc. And everything just started like 3 months only, someone is gunna get left out for sure due to the nature of the fast pace development of the group, not everyone is gunna get promoted equally. Management don't have the time to wait for development process instead they look at immediate results. Which is reasonable since they have big ambition of making a quick splash in the 48G.

    Everyone started as nobody first tbh. The center could've been anyone, it was up for grabs. So yeah.

    5 min for me. If she doesn't have anything interesting then I'm moving on but I'll make another visit some other time when I'm farming stars. Also I go to matome and twitter to see if others users share interesting topics and clips from the showrooms. So it saves my time too.

    ================================

    48th Handshake event round 2 starting soon.
     
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2017
  11. ET920

    ET920 Kenkyuusei

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2010
    Location:
    Buenos Aires, Argentina
  12. Idol-chan_Spiffy

    Idol-chan_Spiffy Kenkyuusei

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2014
    Location:
    FL, USA
    Oshimen:
    Kato Minami
  13. marioworldakb

    marioworldakb Kenkyuusei

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2017
    Location:
    Hinachan's Cell House
    Oshimen:
    Kashiwagi Yuki
  14. fatrain

    fatrain Kenkyuusei

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2014
    Komiharu got in a deathlock that prevents her from stepping back to make her face look smaller [hehe]
     
  15. ET920

    ET920 Kenkyuusei

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2010
    Location:
    Buenos Aires, Argentina
    Komiharu tweeted that she's Kouko oshi :D
     
  16. Megumibex

    Megumibex Kenkyuusei

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2017
    Oshimen:
    Iwasa Misaki
    Forgive me if it's been talked about and I just missed it but are there any prominent friendships between the members of stu48 (I know it's still early days, just curious)?
     
  17. marioworldakb

    marioworldakb Kenkyuusei

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2017
    Location:
    Hinachan's Cell House
    Oshimen:
    Kashiwagi Yuki
    Kahotaru: Outplayed son!!

    HinaAyu (Iwata Hina + Ichioka Ayumi) *BFF since HKT 4th gen

    Fukuchan - Kahotaru (Fukuda Akari + Mori Kaho) *Kagawa combo

    Kanon - Fuu (Isogai Kanon + Yabushita Fuu) *Did Kareoke stream together

    Nonchan - Arisa (Shintani Nonoka + Mineyoshi Arisa) *Loli combo

    Yumirin - Fuu (Takino Yumiko + Yabushita Fuu) *STU reps

    There are many others but these are just top of my head. Basically I think the whole group bonds very well with one another.
     
  18. extomomi

    extomomi Kenkyuusei

    Joined:
    May 6, 2009
    Location:
    Vancouver, Canada
    Hina and Ayumi
    Nonoka and Arisa
    Kouko & Mitsuki & Torobu
     
  19. May48

    May48 Kenkyuusei

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2017
    KadoIshi (Miho) - Kadowaki Miyuna & Ishida Chiho
    wIshida - Ishida Chiho & Ishida Minami

    And I think Kouko and Kaho are quite close!?
     
  20. ET920

    ET920 Kenkyuusei

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2010
    Location:
    Buenos Aires, Argentina
    If I were to say it, Kaho and Kouko are the closest pair, Kaho calls Kouko whenever she feels unwell so that she can take care of her at night (gotta love English and its grammar). Kaho and Harurun are friends too since they shared the same agency before joining STU48, enough to visit each other without problem, but there's also tension since they are both high profile showroomers and in that environment fans usually push for one or the other.
     

Share This Page