Imamura Maria (Maasan)

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  1. junjou19

    junjou19 Kenkyuusei

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    Why is she so short

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  2. SoothingEarthDragon

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    The company is almost certainly lying about her age.
    Take a look at the 4th gen who are apparently younger than her.... or go back and look at any of the other members at that age. Tanaka Natsumi was younger than her when she joined. You could also compare to Matsui Jurina, but Jurina has always looked 4 years older than her stated age so they might be lying about her in the other direction.

    Maria situation is a bit... odd. Remember that her mother was already HKT48 staff, but they decided to enter her through the Draft audition where she imaginably could have been snatched up by any of the groups. Moreover, the members constantly treat her like a very young child-- and they have never treated anyone else who was her supposed age in the same way.

    Being only 130-something centimeters at 13 years old is incredibly odd, even for Japan where its not unusual for people to be "short". She is 20 centimeters shorter than even "very short" Japanese people her age.

    The only other possibilities is that she has some sort of dwarfism that, lucky for her, doesn't give her the stocky body and... unusual... facial features that are typically caused by this, she just looked 3-4 years younger than she is...

    Or that her health is just in absolutely horrendous shape due to poor nutrition. Obesity causes girls to go through puberty unnaturally early, so the reverse is also possible... and she is ridiculously thin as well as short. But she also seems way more energetic than someone who was starving so badly that her body couldn't grow would likely act.


    However cute it might be that she is so tiny, sadly-- in terms of her long-term health and happiness, the best possible solution is that the company lied about her age because they figured it was fine to have her join her mother at work after school and do things with the older girls. So if they wanted to let her join the group at 8 years old but they said no one younger than 11 can audition, they might have felt it was necessary to just say she was 11 and not really worry about it. As long as they aren't having her do too much (and they do seem to limit her activities), its not illegal. She the only one in the group who isn't active on any SNS, she posted only a little on 755 before abruptly stopping.

    Then again, the fact that there is a picture of her and Ota Aika taken several years ago, that seems pretty conclusive proof that they can't simply be lying about her age. Also, she talks about being in middle school and if she was really in 4th grade rather than 7th grade, one would imagine that someone would expose her.

    Still, don't dismiss the idea that maybe she is just younger than they say so easily. It really is a simpler explanation than positing that she is the only 13 year old in all of Japan who doesn't have a medical problem who hasn't even reached 135 centimeters. But if she is actually only 9 or 10 years old? She is average height.
     
  3. moonlit

    moonlit Kenkyuusei

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    just for curiosity's sake, where did the information about Maria's mother being HKT staff came to light?
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  4. SoothingEarthDragon

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    I could be totally wrong-- but it was either Imamura Maria or Matsuoka Hana who had a mother who was HKT48 staff. Hana had a parent in Tokyo and one in Fukuoka which is why she got chosen, so I am pretty sure the "staff members' daughter" was Imamura. The only evidence I can pull up easily is this:

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    真白のお母さん感。

    This came from a handshake event and was posted by Murashige Anna. (She was comparing Imamura Maria and Murashige Maria)

    That's not a member, that's Maria's mom. So Maria should be perfectly average height. Girls never get any taller after 14-- do you really think she is going to grow that much by next September?

    It was taken backstage at a handshake event and you can see that Imamura mommy outfit... well, we can't see if there is any writing on her shirt-- but that looks a lot like standard staff clothing to me. A lot more so than what most Japanese women above the age of 20 wear casually.
     
  5. Reveen

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    ^the usual conspiracy theory stuff I see...

    Go to a hardware store and buy an occams razor.

    The most logical explanation is a medical condition like growth hormone deficiency. Lionel Messi had to take injections of growth hormone in his early-mid teens to get to a normal height and he is still only 5'7" which is still below average https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionel_Messi
     
  6. EinhanderX

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    You should link the blog post as well to back-up your claim. I can expect a post claiming it's someone else with another photos soon. Just saying.

    edit: Just checking. It's her mother visiting her on the HS event. No staff identification were found.
     
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  7. SoothingEarthDragon

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    Murashige Google+ around the end of last March. You want to go digging, be my guest. I am sure you'll find it, there is just probably about 100 posts between now and then.

    I had the picture still around because I translated that post several months ago. I copied the only part of it that was relevant towards the identity of the woman in the picture and pasted it there "Pure white mother's love". Weird thing for Anna to name the picture if that wasn't Maria's mom.
    But, Anna also showed her Dad at the same event in the same set of pictures, so I could still be completely wrong about which of the 2nd gen draft girls

    She never gave any more detail than that. And I already admitted I couldn't quite recall whether it was Maria or Hana who had a mother on the staff, I could have it backwards. Sashihara mentioned that one of them had a parent on the staff, I just remember it wasn't Emily.

    And... really....
    "Ultra rare medical condition that affects only one in millions." or "Someone in the entertainment industry lied about her age to say she was older or younger than she was to get into an audition."

    It really is funny how people misapply Occum's Razor... it doesn't mean "believe the most unlikely of all scenarios to maintain the illusion that everyone is being 100% honest all the time." People lie all the time, they lie about little things, they lie about big things. The best application of Occum's Razor is "if it seems more likely that someone told a lie than the scenario you would have to accept if they didn't, then presume that someone told a lie."

    And an actress-- any female, really, lying about her age? That's the most common of common events.

    And its not like we are talking about porn or something here where there would be some serious laws being broken if she was really younger than the bare minimum allowed age for the audition. If AKB48 wanted to do, they could recruit girls as young as kindergarten! Hello! Project did it! (They had a short-lived duo unit) And many of the girls who were in Berryz Kobou and C-Ute were in early elementary school when recruited back in 2002. But even the smallest among them was taller than Maria.
     
  8. saki48

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    Either you are trolling or you forgot we have a member named Ui Mashiro in HKT.
     
  9. fluffy

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    Yea thats definitely Mashiro in that picture.

    This dude really needs to stop making stuff up.
     
  10. SoothingEarthDragon

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    I had no idea it could be a name rather than an adjective all of I4U are members I hardly ever remember existing.

    You are right though, I took the "mother's love" part too literally. It must be Ui.

    Which means it is Hana who has the staff member as the mother which makes a lot more sense given the ridiculous push Hana got.

    Still doesn't mean that doesn't mean it is more likely that Maria suffers from a debilitating disease that prevents her from ever entering puberty rather than she just lied about her age and is really 3 years younger than her profile says.

    We won't know for years. If the poor girl is still under 140 centimeters and has to suffer through the rather terrible life that contemns her to in a country like Japan that makes no allowances for anyone not "normal" then that is tragic.

    If she suddenly hits a big growth spurt when she is "15" or "16" then she just lied about her age and is otherwise perfectly fine and can have a normal, happy life.
     
  11. Reveen

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    Like you give a shit about any of the members that isn't your oshi, don't bother with the faux sympathy, nobody buys it.

    And no-one buys any of the outlandish claims you make either, we've seen so many shot through with lies, misinformation and bs. So how about you do this

    1. Show proof that AKS has lied about the age of any member (not Aimi Eguchi)
    2. Show proof that any member, let alone Hana, has a parent who is a staff member.

    That should be easy right?
     
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  12. MeoJim

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    You know, there is a much more logical explanation: She's just a late bloomer! :chuffed:

    Something I'd never thought I'd do here but to give a quick Biology lesson :D:
    Let's not forget that Maria has only just turned 13; she is still within the average for hitting puberty. Even then, this statistic is based on an average, meaning that it is perfectly acceptable to have girls hitting puberty earlier or later than the normal age range. And if Maria ends up being a late bloomer, then she can still grow up normally like everyone else!
    There are only a few set rules as to what constitutes as "normal puberty"; it's easier to assume that she's a late bloomer as opposed to a medical condition, which is not ruled out but is rarer, or that she managed to sneak in as an underaged draftee, which is even less plausible in this day and age where people/wotas can find everything about you, from your private accounts to what you used to do before you joined 48/46G [hehe]

    Long and short of it: just enjoy that Maria is still short, as she fits the "little sister" image of HKT. Chances are that her "time" will come within the next few years and she'll grow like everyone else, whether she'll be as tall as Tanaka Miku or Tanaka Natsumi :p
     
  13. SoothingEarthDragon

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    Just being a "late bloomer" would be comforting, but she is 20 centimeters short of Tanana Miku and 60 or so centlmeters short for Tanaka Natsumi for the same age. That is where the concern for her health and well being ought to kick in.

    It is cute to have an a kenkyusei or fill in member who looks only 9 years old if she is only nine years old.

    The problem will come in several years from now. Now that Milky, Sashihara and Mayu have now set the standard that girls ought to appear bottonless, if not completely nude in future "gravure" if they are serious about getting any decent rank in the sousenkyo that serves as the major deciding factor whether one gets any chances to shine throuhout the year...

    What does the increasing and unstoppable sexualization of AKB48 group mean to a girl who is apparently always going to look 3 years younger than her age?

    Seriously, every possibility for her future besides sinply she lied about her age is seriously screwed up and tragic.
     
  14. moonlit

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    well, talking about late bloomers, there's always Hashimoto Yukina from Rev. from DVL
    She was super short until she shot up in height around the age of 15.
    (also don't bother looking up the agency homepage, they notoriously forget to update the heights of their young talentos, Yukki is about Kanna's height and possibly a bit taller seeing how she's taller in their two shots)

    Tanaka Natsumi is an extreme opposite case, so I don't think we should bring her up for comparison here either.
    She's way above average height for Japanese women and she was that height when she was 11, that's hardly normal either.
     
  15. MeoJim

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    I only used Tanaka Miku and Tanaka Natsumi as examples because they're both from HKT, and it had a nice alliteration to it [hehe] Of course Natsumi can't be compared because, as stated before, she was well above the average even when she was young, and don't forget that Mikurin has at least 2 years ahead of Maria.
    Whether she'll be able to get ahead in a "Gravure-centric" world that 48G is supposedly turning into with a body type like hers is another question altogether, but in terms of health? She is perfectly normal at this time of her life. IF she is still the same height this time next year then we can start raising warning flags; otherwise she will be shorter than average, and even after hitting her growth spurt will still be shorter than average at that age. The only thing we might have to worry for her is if she has a height complex, but that's just speaking from experience rather than something she will actually get in later life :p
     
  16. Reveen

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    How about you do this

    1. Show proof that AKS has lied about the age of any member (not Aimi Eguchi)
    2. Show proof that any member, let alone Hana, has a parent who is a staff member.

    That should be easy right?
     
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  17. MrQazman

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    @Reveen You aren't the only one. SED is a creepy dude. Quick to show how he "hates" anything vaguely sexual but still seems way too obsessed with it.
     
  18. rka

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    There is this iterative pattern if you have a closer look:

    - Fabricate some stories
    - Present them as facts
    - Get corrected by others
    - Admit you might have misread/misunderstand tiny bits here and there
    - Still insist your story is true

    Do all this in no less than 500 words per post.


    Seriously, get a life, dude.

    On another note, here is real data about the growth rates of japanese people:
    http://www.mext.go.jp/b_menu/toukei/001/022/2004/002.pdf
    http://www.mext.go.jp/component/b_menu/other/__icsFiles/afieldfile/2014/03/28/1345147_1.pdf

    Maybe you can draw your conclusions about body heights of japanese women from there.
     
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  19. junjou19

    junjou19 Kenkyuusei

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    I never meant to start this

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    And... nobodywil :awesome:

    Thanks for summing up the wall of text (only Don could dream up) so I don't have to read it. Brain cells saved! :approve:
     
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