Matsui Jurina (Jurina)

Discussion in 'Team S' started by ithebigc, Oct 6, 2016.

  1. Riina

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    I get your point, but like Jurinavenclaw pointed out, there were cases of members only being in the MV and not actually doing much promotion. I think it was Sustainable where Yuihan was in the MV but was not doing promotions because of her other jobs? And let's not forget the 3 No way man centers, who only did the MV but were not taking part in the promotions since they had to leave for Korea.

    It makes sense she wouldn't be center, of course, but just giving her a spot somewhere on the edge of 2nd row or something would be nice. They could always get one of their pushed young gens to replace her for TV show performances and other stuff she'd be unable to do. That goes both for AKB and SKE singles.
     
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  2. dutchie

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    for sure that would be seen as insulting to hard core Jurina fans ... 'she won the SSK and they put her on the third row!"

    I honestly don't think you are implying that it's a 'disgrace' that management is pushing younger members over Jurina, because it's almost a given that management will do that eventually, it's part of idol life. and to be honest, complaining about it with regard to Jurina is kinda ironic.
     
  3. Jurinavenclaw

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    Sure.. some Jurina fans may complain, but edge of 2nd row is better than removal from senbatsu.

    Its just a disrespect to everything Jurina worked for half of her life.

    As for not just let her have an online graduation, i dont think its them being nice to her. Why would they let go of the last chance they can earn something from Jurina?? She belongs to a non 48G affiliated agency, right?

    So basically, they lessened her appearances in activities and opportunities where she can have some boost in popularity (kouhaku, singles senbatsu, face of ske online shop, etc). Most of these things are not really physically impossible for her.

    Anyway, rant over.

    I understand in the grand scheme of things, Jurina is far from being a shafted member and she got a lot of opportunities more than what her popularity deserved in the early years of her career.

    Just sad that they can't let her spend her last years in 48G with the dignity usually given to members of her status.
     
  4. dutchie

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    As I said ... I understand your disappointment .... but I think you are reading too much into it, most of it is a really unfortunate chain of events.
    Is management responsible for pushing her to her braking point? ... I dunno, probably, but I also think part of it is her character, I remember a clip where she was telling SKE that they were going to have to be better then AKB, that's of course commendable ... but the intensity of the delivery was kinda scary
    And don't forget her agency, it's their task to protect their 'asset' as well.

    Just as with Mayuyu, it's obvious people kind of dropped the ball here ... but then again ... that's a part of Japanese culture

    And the remark about earning from Jurina .... well, that's what every company does with their employees, hardly anyone is purely in AKB just for the fun of it, everybody wants to gain something
     
  5. Jurinavenclaw

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    Oh im definitely not putting it against management for wanting to earn more from her for one last time. Its just a response to why won't they just let her do an online graduation if they can't wait for her to leave.

    SKE has practically changed their face to Suda if the ske online shop is used as basis. Correct me if im wrong but i think akb and nmb at least waited for Maeda and Sayaka respectively before they replaced them as the default poster girl of the group.
     
  6. Riina

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    As a "hardcore Jurina fan", I'd much rather her be in the 3rd row than not in senbatsu at all. First of all, I never expected Jurina to be handed any more centers (except hopefully for one last SKE single before she graduates, to honor her legacy), I am 100% fine with other members taking center - even if Jurina didn't have health problems and wasn't graduating, I think it's a lot better for the group to have several centers rotating. Second, considering the current situation (health issues, not able to promote as much as other members etc.) I would completely understand that the management wouldn't want to put her in the front row. So yeah, me and most Jurina fans I know would be completely fine with her being in a worse position than usual as long as she was included.

    Second, I have never ever said it was a disgrace that the management is pushing young gens. If you look at my posts here, you'll notice I'm a big supporter of younger gens, especially 16th gen - you don't even have to check my posts, you can see it from my signature that one of my oshis is a 16th gen member! (Although unfortunately not the one getting the push, but oh well.) I completely support management pushing young members but it feels unfair to cut Jurina completely when she is, after all, one of the most popular members and has been so for the past 10 years. And I'm not just saying that because it's Jurina, I would feel the same way if they for example cut Yukirin or Yuihan. But other than Zukkii and Satopii, the young gens are not included in senbatsu anyway, so if they added Jurina, they could have Mahopyon or Naamin or Rei or whoever they want under for her in TV shows and it would be a good stepping stone until they are actually ready to include that person in actual senbatsu. Nobody is talking about taking away opportunities from young gen members here, since the senbatsu size is arbitrary anyways and it's been a long time since AKB stopped trying to stick to 16 members senbatsu anyway - so if they can't fit everyone they want into 16 or 18 member senbatsu, why not do 20 or more?

    To me, it just feels like AKB stopped caring about Jurina at all, and SKE only care for her to bring them some more money before she graduates without giving anything back in return - despite Jurina "not being able to be in senbatsu for health reasons", she was still planned to participate in SKE's latest single's HS events. If her health was so bad, she wouldn't be able to do that, but seems like she can so management is just trying to milk her fans while not giving her a spot in the senbatsu.
     
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  7. dutchie

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    You are right about that, but there was also no Covid-19 pandemic then and graduates weren't stuck in Limbo for 200+ days after announcing graduation... for AKB as group it's like time is standing still in some respects as they are unable to move forward
     
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    I never complained about it either. You can disagree with me about Jurina deserving a senbatsu spot but this argument just doesn't make sense as I didn't say or imply any of those things. Not just the disgrace part but the rest of it too.

    Anyway, I don't want to go too off topic in Jurina's thread so let's just end it with that.
     
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    "complaining about it with regard to Jurina is kinda ironic."
    you can take it as if it was pointed at you, but ... as the first part of the sentence should have made clear ... it's not, it's about people in general who might complain about it, it's not about you and I'm sorry if you got that impression
     
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    Jurina will be on Instagram Live on 13 September at 21:00 (JST) with CGM48 Izuta Rina
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    Jurina with Ru chan
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    Sep.8 at 13.00JST, Jurina will attend ONE Championship's press conference which is to be broadcasted live on ABEMA TV and ONE official instagram.
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    Jurina at the press conference of the martial arts event "Road to ONE: 3rd TOKYO FIGHT NIGHT" to be held on 9/10:

     
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    Hello guys i am a new jurina fan and i have questions. Umm i saw she released her first solo album in 2019. I wonder how many copies sold her album?

    And other thing, after 2018 ssk incidents n her hiatus is her popularity dropped? I just wonder how affect 2018 ssk incident jurina's popularity.

    Lastly, most of akb48 members has more followers than jurina in instagram n twitter. Sayanee, kawaei rina, graduated kami7, milky, mirurun, sakura n etc. Why jurina has this much few followers compare to them?
     
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    Jurina, Hinapiyo, Himetan went to the event during Nagoya Grampus game last night and they won against the reigning J-League champion Yokohama F-Marinos
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    Tokai radio program 1+1 for ske 12th anniversary special program on 12th September
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