Minegishi Minami (Miichan)

Discussion in 'Team K' started by hanabi, Jun 4, 2007.

  1. bonjourmarlene

    bonjourmarlene Kenkyuusei

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    Yukirin was on AKBingo in November, for this segment but iirc the point of the episode was to see how a senpai like Yukirin would react to a certain situation compared to the newer members (episode 463).

    About Shiichan, I don't know if this counts, but she was part of the members who participated in The W (the Comedian contest). She didn't actually sit in the studio, if I remember right, but there were VTRs shown of her (episodes 469 and 470).

    I may be wrong, but I believe Kitarie was one of the NGT members present during The Lucky Girl Ranking 2018 (episodes 474 and 475), but if not then I remember her and Ogiyuka appeared as NGT representatives in episodes 457 and 460 (I believe they were recorded at the same time, judging by seat position and outfits).

    Sasshi, Myao, Minarun, Miyumiyu and Yuihan I haven't seen in ages, and I'm not sure who Ranran is. Yamauchi Suzuran? If yes, then it's very likely she hasn't been on AKBingo because she's an SKE member now and most of the time the studio is filled with 98% AKB members (same goes for Minarun). I feel like AKBingo is there to get new members noticed. Miichan has had countless appearances on the show, ever since it started as 1ji 59fun, so the producers of the show may feel there isn't much else to show about her, her character is pretty well known to most AKB fans, and she's probably one of the most known members.

    Furthermore, most of the members you listed are in their 20s (is there anyone of them who isn't?). I would assume they only really show the young ones, and if they show older ones, then they're either variety idols or sit in the very back; or both, like Nakanishi Chiyori.

    You have to take into account that Gen 1-15 were all up until 2013. It's already been 4 years since we've had a new generation before Gen16. I did a few calculations to see the average amount of years each generation stays in the group
    Gen1 (2005)
    • 5 years and 6 months
    • a third had to mass graduate with SDN48
    • 1/21 members left
    Gen2 (2006)
    • 5 years and 9 months
    • 11,76% had to mass graduate with SDN48
    • 0/17 members left
    Gen 3 (2006)
    • 6 years and 8 months
    • 1/13 members left
    Gen 4 (2007)
    • 44% dropped out before they were promoted
    • 4 years
    • 6 years and 6 months if you don't count KKS dropouts
    • 1/18 left
    Gen 5 (2007)
    • 31% dropped out before they were promoted
    • 6 years and 3 months
    • 10 years and 3 months if you don't count KKS
    • 4/13 left
    Gen 6 (2008)
    • 50% dropped out before they were promoted
    • 3 years and 8 months
    • 7 years if you don't count KKS
    • 0/4 left
    Gen 7 (2008)
    • 37% dropped out before they were promoted
    • 3 years and 9 months
    • 5 years and 8 months if you don't count KKS
    • 0/11 left
    Gen 8 (2009)
    • 100% dropped out before they were promoted
    • 8 months
    • 0/11 left
    Gen 9 (2009)
    • 36% dropped out before they were promoted
    • 4 years and 7 months
    • 6 years if you don't count KKS
    • 4/14 left
    Gen 10 (2010)
    • 20% dropped out before they were promoted
    • 5 years and 9 months
    • 7 years if you don't count KKS
    • 6/10 left
    Gen 11 (2010)
    • 50% dropped out before they were promoted
    • 3 years
    • 5 years and 5 months if you don't count KKS
    • 1/10 left
    Gen 12 (2011)
    • 22% dropped out before they were promoted
    • 5 years and 3 months
    • 6 years and 5 months if you don't count KKS
    • 5/9 left
    • Note: I didn't consider Eguchi Aimi at all, because she never really existed
    Gen 13 (2011)
    • 31,25% dropped out before they were promoted
    • 3 years and 8 months
    • 5 years and 2 months if you don't count KKS
    • 5/16 left
    Gen 14 (since 2012)
    • nobody graduated before promotion
    • 4 years and 6 months
    • 2/6 left
    Gen 15 (2013)
    • nobody graduated before promotion
    • 4 years and 8 months
    • 9/12 left
    Gen 16 (2017)
    • I didn't count them yet, but 1 KKS already graduated
    The average amount of time to stay in AKB48 is 4 years and 6 months; if you don't count KKS, then the average amount of time to stay in AKB48 is 5 years and 10 months. That means Gen 1, 2, 7, 8, 11, 13, 14 and 15 are below the average (although it's hard to judge Gen15 because they haven't existed 5 years and 10 months yet).

    Make of this what you will ^^; I think it means that the newer gens don't have any less "standing power" ^^ We had Gen8, where nobody even got promoted to a team at all, but nobody in Gen14 or 15 graduated as a KKS, which I think means they were/are pretty determined. I'm curious to see how this looks in another 5 years (I'd like to see the Gen1 average raised solely bc of Miichan lol)
     
  2. singlepersona

    singlepersona Kenkyuusei

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    Myao was in the most recent two episodes, and I'm pretty sure yuihan came to the recent lucky girl and will likely show up in the upcoming moe battle

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  3. dutchie

    dutchie Kenkyuusei

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    Well, as I said ... I didn't really look at the data .... and you obviously did. Thanks :)

    I think I just took Nyan-nyan, Takamina and Miichan as the mean of the 1st gen ... which of course they weren't .. they're the outliers.
    (I hated statistics in high school :) ... random selecting red balls from a pot without putting them back and calculating the odds .... brrrr .... and then coming up with a number greater then one ... and know I screwed up .. again :( )

    I'm not going to speculate about the co-relation between generation and AKBingo appearances, because I might trigger you into researching that topic in depth as well ;)
     
  4. Santikun

    Santikun Kenkyuusei

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    I think this is the last appearance of Miichan in AKBingo!



    She asks Muramoto if he felt nervous about MC the show.
     
  5. Santikun

    Santikun Kenkyuusei

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    Miichan is right handed, at least to write ...
    On YouTube there is a video where she appears writing her name, but I do not have it now
     
  6. bonjourmarlene

    bonjourmarlene Kenkyuusei

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    The thing with Gen 1 is that quite a lot of people dropped out pretty quickly because they probably thought AKB wasn't gonna go anywhere (if you remember, they only had 6 people in the theatre for their first performance, and 4 of those were press people). I think it took until like 2008/09 at least until AKB could be considered popular, or at least known.

    If I look at Gen 2 or Gen 3, then I can recognise a lot more faces than I do for Gen 1. But that makes me appreciate the No Sleeves trio so much; they all held out for over 11 years!! Thats twice the average!! But yeah, they're the exception and not the rule ^^;
     
  7. dutchie

    dutchie Kenkyuusei

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    well, if that's the one, I've seen that before ... and I really didn't like the interaction when Miichan asked 'on which side are you?"...
    (Miichan was defensive ... the host obnoxious)
    I guess it was meant to be funny ... but it seemed to make all the girls self conscious and the laughter seemed insincere

    I guess I liked the Bad Boys just better ... Sata turned out to be a big softie in the end in spite of his motor gang image... and Kiyoto was just too funny with his well timed remarks.

    maybe the staff decided based on that that the chemistry would never be there .. or Miichan decided she didn't want to participate anymore .. whatever the reason ... not the best episode of AKBingo imho
    (and remember, if I recall correctly, they usually taped 4 or 5 episodes per day, so you would have expected Miichan to be in the next few episodes as well)

    edit: just rewatched most of it ... no, still don't like it, it's akward, Yukirin laughing too hard ... Miichan seems ill at ease and too serious and the whole stepping back when taking selfies thing is taken too far imho.

    just an aside, with Miichan you can immediately spot if a pictured is mirrored or not :)
    (and not just by the beauty spot on her nose)


    ow .... I just read this on TV Tropes about Okada Nana being too serious and respectful:

    anyone know which episode this is ??


    ow, Bing translate .... you sure scare me:
    みーおんせいちゃんと、ひーわたんからバレンタインのチョコもらったよ 1f60c-32-32.png 1f495-32-32.png 美味しかった!! イベントごとに疎くなっていく自分...気持ちの老いを感じるな...
    bing:
    Voice, I got a Valentine's chocolate from Watan and it was delicious!! Each event out me... Don't feel the old feelings...

    this is wat Google made of it:
    Mi - osense - chan, I got chocolate from Valentine 's day I was delicious! !
    Do yourself getting out of every event ... Do not feel old age ...

    that first one sounded almost like she didn't feel as strongly anymore about AKB ... the second is almost the opposite :)
    So, who do I trust more, Microsoft or Google ... answer: neither :)

    btw: anyone know how to resize those 'cut and paste' twitter emoticons ? never mind .. I found a workaround


    Miichan's twitter today:
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    全国握手会in仙台 雪の降る中、会いにきてくださった皆さんありがとうございました。 久しぶりにAKBとして歌って、踊って、握手して、楽しかったです☺︎ また会いましょう〜!
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    National handshake meeting in Sendai thank you to everyone who came to see us during the snow. After a long time singing as a akb, dancing, shaking hands, it was fun ☺︎ let's Meet again!
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    More Miichan Twitter:
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    舞台も観に来てくれた優しい子。
    最近は後輩というより友達。
    今日も沢山笑ったね
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    A gentle child who came to watch the stage. Recently, she is more of a friend than a junior. I laughed a lot today
    ==========

    Miichan and Kojimako, they really developed a bond in Team 4 it seems, and soon to be re-united in team K.
     
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  8. Santikun

    Santikun Kenkyuusei

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    I agree with your point of view about this particular program. Also, in the previous show Muramoto made her go to a corner in the studio to make a sexy pose, and when she did she took it out of the screen. That was an awkward moment.
    Miichan quickly learned that Muramoto liked screen time much more than she did.
    You only need to see the sad role of Paradise in that duo.

    Santikun said:
    Miichan is right handed, at least to write ...


    min1:15 she writes her name

    AKBingo! ep. 261.
    min 16:03


    As captain of Team K Miichan she always tries to make her girls stand out
    She calls Naachan, and achieves camera time for her. Not only that, when Yukirin shows her how to make a good reaction, Miichan calls Naachan again to make sure she learned how to react correctly, so screentime for Naachan again.

    By the way, how far were the funny chapters of AKBingo!
    Thank God SETOBINGO started on the right path
     
  9. dutchie

    dutchie Kenkyuusei

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    Not just her Team 4 mates, in her Shoujiki Shougi match versus Minarun she name drops her juniors and gives them ample opportunity to participate, like letting Miyu-chan explain why they think Minarun isn't wearing heels (to appeal to fans by having to look up to them)

    thanks for the episode number ... I hadn't seen it in it's entirety ... I did see the Takamina as Sadako part ... that was pretty hilarious (and scary :) ), none of Takamina's legendary fails there :)


    lol, just watched Okada Nana's hit .... that was .... devious :D
     
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  10. bonjourmarlene

    bonjourmarlene Kenkyuusei

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    I think the first part says, "I got Valentine's chocolate from Miion, Seichan and Hiiwatan." (Mukaichi Mion, Fukouka Seina and Hiwatashi Yui)
     
  11. dutchie

    dutchie Kenkyuusei

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    Yeah, Google translate, Bing Translate and names .... not a good combination :)
    (just like gender, it's amazing how many times I've seen a woman addresses as 'he' in an automatic translation, but that of course must have to do with the structure of Japanese where a lot of information is inferred from context)
     
  12. bonjourmarlene

    bonjourmarlene Kenkyuusei

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    I think that's because, as you said, in Japanese they often leave out pronouns completely. Same when they add -san to a name, it usually translates to "Mr. [Name]". I would be surprised if Google translate can tell whether a name is female or male, especially because at times it can be both
     
  13. dutchie

    dutchie Kenkyuusei

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    Revisiting the subject of AKBingo! ep. 261.

    when rewatching it I realised that that episode was a blatant Team 4 push episode :) ... and that Miichan might just as well have been in the other team.
    Furthermore, did you notice she was constantly coaching her team members? like when Miki had to do her Muchaburi ... and had a total meltdown again (she really was a scaredy cat), foreshadowing the next episode with the Robot dog :)
    Miichan can even been seen holding Miki's hand and protesting it was too early/soon for Miki
    The only one of the three musketeers not featuring prominently was Kojimako ... but I guess that's the chance element in muchiburi dodgeball (the variety types manipulate those odds by being easier to hit, that of course the conundrum, to be successful ... you should not try to win at dodgeball, loosing is much better for your exposure :D )

    I really think they should have kept Team 4 together for just a little bit longer :/

    Ow, Miichan has been baking cookies for Valentine's .... I want some!
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  14. bonjourmarlene

    bonjourmarlene Kenkyuusei

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    Miichan's second February net shop photo set
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    From Japan: https://shopping.akb48-group.com/selection/detail/1/64194
    From overseas: https://akb48.buyee.jp/akb48/categories/2462?page=2

    @minegishi_31chan (14th February)
    Happy Valentine
    イベント毎はとにかく集まって食べることでお馴染みの私達。今年はわかちゃんお手製カレーをディナーにいただき、トリュフ、フルーツケーキ、クッキー作りました。自分たちで好きなだけ味見して、あとはお世話になった人に渡そうと思います。わか先生( @wakanogohan )いつもありがとう :) スペシャルゲストはかち子ちゃんでした♡
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    Happy Valentine
    We were making these for family gathering events, and then we ate some anyway. This year, Waka-chan made home-made curry for dinner, then truffles, fruit cake and cookies. They taste really nice and I think I will give them to those who I really care about. Thank you very much Professor Waka (@wakanogohan) :) Special guest was Kachiko-chan ♡
     

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