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Minegishi Minami (Miichan)

Discussion in 'Team K' started by hanabi, Jun 4, 2007.

  1. bonjourmarlene

    bonjourmarlene Rank 81-100 (Temporary Name)

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    It's a bit strange, cause it's the day after Tano Yuka's birthday. It would make more sense for that to be Tano's birthday stage and for Miichan's to have been closer to her birthday... But I hope she still enjoys it nonetheless :)
     
  2. dutchie

    dutchie Kenkyuusei Stage48 Donor

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    I'm sure she will ... being the centre, her alter ego is Shaku for a reason ;)
    (to be honest, I think she's got over/grew out of the need to be the center of attention)

    But yeah ... her birthday is 15 November ... it's almost a half year late :/, I guess her schedule and the theatre schedule just didn't line up.
    Still weird though

    And it's probably one of the last theatre performances with Miichan as captain as well :/
     
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  3. Santikun

    Santikun Kenkyuusei

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    I also think the same.
    Seeing her performance in Downtown with comedians with much more experience, (Matsumoto and Hamada) it shows that she has matured a lot.
    I see her comfortable in her role, gaining experience in a very difficult environment.

    https://www.bilibili.com/video/av19689854/

    https://www.bilibili.com/video/av19977145/
     
  4. dutchie

    dutchie Kenkyuusei Stage48 Donor

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    Miichan had her, somewhat belated, birthday stage today ...
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    一年に一回、私の味方ってこんなに居てくれるんだって目で見て、耳で聞いて、全身で感じられる時間。嬉しくて、楽しくて、どうしようかと思いました。。チームKメンバー(もちろん助っ人メンバーも)来てくれた皆さん、オンデマンドで観てくれた皆さんも!素敵な生誕祭をありがとうございました
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    Once a year, I see it in my eyes, listen to me, I can feel the time with my whole body. I was so happy, so happy, I wondered what to do. Team K members (of course helper members also) came, everyone who saw us on demand! Thank you for a wonderful birthday festival
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    Well, to be honest, Miichan has been on shows with Hamada Masatoshi for years now.
    as in:


    And somehow she manages to hit it of with most of these comedians, of course with Bad Boys ... but also with Ninety-Nine
    e.g. part one of Yuko's Graduation tour where Miichan did her Gouriki Ayame impersonation.
    http://myaidol.net/2014/09/19/140412-mechaike-sp-yukos-graduation-tour/

    (it was just with the current AKBingo host the interaction wasn't stellar)

    It must be said, Hamada Masatoshi and Matsumoto Hitoshi are pretty dominant ... trying to upstage them ... not a good idea.
     
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  5. Ashitaba

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    Whoever ordered that Gyakuten Oujisama flower arrangement is pure genius and I want to send them a flower arrangement too. Easily one of the best I’ve seen in the theater!
     
  6. dutchie

    dutchie Kenkyuusei Stage48 Donor

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    damn, I don't know why, but that's such a sexy picture .... if she wasn't my oshimen already I would make her my oshimen just for that reason right now :)
    (luckily I have had plenty of other reasons to do that already ;) )


    and some more:
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  7. karles48

    karles48 Kenkyuusei Stage48 Donor

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    It's me or she looks really thin in that picture?
     
  8. dutchie

    dutchie Kenkyuusei Stage48 Donor

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    Nah, I wouldn't say that, but normally Miichan tends to wear baggy clothes, maybe that's why she appears to be thinner.
    I did get the impression thought, that she went through the dreaded pendulum thing with her weight before and after the rizzap commercials ...
    but so far it seems she has it pretty much under control.

    Keeping the ideal weight must be hard on the members, it's hard on most teenage girls, but probably doubly so on idols.
    Take for instance Yukurin, who really looked a bit too thin during the last Janken prelims (but she was wearing long trousers which were enhancing the effect maybe)
    Or Mikichan at the time she graduated, she really put on weight by then, got from really skinny to chubby. but on a positive note, in recent pics together with Miichan, Mikichan looked just fine again.
     
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  9. bonjourmarlene

    bonjourmarlene Rank 81-100 (Temporary Name)

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    I just watched Miichan's birthday stage and I wanted to share some screenshots with all of you ^^

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  10. dutchie

    dutchie Kenkyuusei Stage48 Donor

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    Lost of browns and beiges, earth tones people, earth tones .... (ok, I did a Red Letter Media reference there) .... but it truly was the first thing I thought
    Miichan looking great, but not a big fan of the bustier and lace, CanCan style look ...
    Otoh ... if there was an Oscar or Emmy for best costume designer for idol groups ... Shinobu Kayano would win hands down, its amazing the amount of incredible designs she did the last 11 year, and almost always with different versions for each and every member.

    which is a nice segway to share this link:
    https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/in...designed-by-the-akb48-costume-designer/.82940

    I wonder if there's a thread with 'what's your favourite AKB costume' around here somewhere? (there probably is ... but we could always do a 'what's the best costume Miichan has worn" ;) )
     
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  11. karles48

    karles48 Kenkyuusei Stage48 Donor

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    That was indeed a great idea, thanks!! :)
     
  12. bonjourmarlene

    bonjourmarlene Rank 81-100 (Temporary Name)

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    They performed pretty much the regular Team K stage that's going on at the moment (Saishuu Bell ga Naru). The bustier and lace outfit was for Oshibe to Meshibe to Yoru no Chouchou, which is supposed to be a pretty sexual songs (especially because the original singers were Kasai Tomomi and Ohori Megumi, and especially the latter was known as a sexy idol persona).

    In the original lyrics for the song, Tomomi is portrayed as a younger girl in love with an older woman and she asks Meetan, "what do we do if someone sees us?" and "do you really love me?" (the last one repeatedly) and Meetan keeps dodging the question, saying stuff like "Hm, I wonder...". And in the version Miichan did with Ayanan, Ayanan asks her "wasn't it your birthday?" and then keeps asking "how old are you now?" and Miichan keeps ignoring her and tries to change the topic [hehe] I thought it was quite a funny take on the song, and you could tell they were both trying really hard not to laugh
     
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  13. dutchie

    dutchie Kenkyuusei Stage48 Donor

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    Thanks for the explanation ... my grasp of Japanese is still virtually nonexistent.
    ( I manage to see if the subtitles I found for a Japanese movie match with the dialog though :D, so ... that's a start)
     
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  14. bonjourmarlene

    bonjourmarlene Rank 81-100 (Temporary Name)

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    I was actually surprised with myself that I understood it because I think my Japanese is pretty bad, especially when it's spoken only (it's easier to understand when written, especially if your knowledge of kanji is solid). I understand the word "tanjoubi" (birthday) and "nan sai desu ka?" (how old are you?) and I know that Miichan didn't respond with "twenty-five"; and Oshibe to Meshibe is one of my favourite stage songs, so I've looked up the lyrics on stage48 before
     
  15. dutchie

    dutchie Kenkyuusei Stage48 Donor

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    What is it? 4000+ characters ? .... a solid understanding .... not going to happen in this lifetime I guess :)
     
  16. bonjourmarlene

    bonjourmarlene Rank 81-100 (Temporary Name)

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    I don't think there are that many tbh [hehe] I know about 70 but I don't consider that solid
     
  17. dutchie

    dutchie Kenkyuusei Stage48 Donor

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    ok, you seem to need basically only 2000+ :)
    to quote the other wiki: "The jōyō kanji(常用漢字, regular-use kanji) are 2,136 characters consisting of all the Kyōiku kanji, plus 1,130 additional kanji taught in junior high and high school."

    otoh:
    Total number of kanji
    There is no definitive count of kanji characters, just as there is none of Chinese characters generally. The Dai Kan-Wa Jiten, which is considered to be comprehensive in Japan, contains about 50,000 characters. The Zhonghua Zihai, published in 1994 in China contains about 85,000 characters;[16][17][18] however, the majority of these are not in common use in any country, and many are obscure variants or archaic forms.

    Approximately 2,000 to 3,000 characters are commonly used in Japan, a few thousand more find occasional use, and a total of 13,108 characters can be encoded in various Japanese Industrial Standards for kanji.

    so basically the answer to the question, how many Kanji are there is .... nobody knows :)

    but it's pretty well known that even native Japanese people have trouble with mastering them all, including Miichan:
    To quote this wiki (e.i. wiki48):
    • Is often jealous of Kojima Haruna for being able to write kanji that she can't write herself.
    which kinda leads to the following question I just thought of:
    how smart is Miichan, she did pretty badly in the Mechaike Bakka test, but I wonder what her school career would have look like here in the Netherlands?
    I would think:
    Kawaei - VMBO ?
    Kojiharu - VMBO-T (what used to be Mavo)
    Miichan - Havo
    Yuko - definitely VWO or Gymnasium

    on the other hand ... Miichan is pretty sharp in TV shows ... so maybe it would be VWO after all

    I might have to explain the Dutch school system:
    Secondary Dutch education (voortgezet onderwijs)
    From 12 years, pupils choose from vocational or pre-university diplomas based on their ability under the Netherlands education system. In the first years all pupils study the same subjects (to different academic levels), known as the basisvorming, followed by a second stage (tweede fase) in which students choose a specialist profile.

    It is typically difficult to change vocational streams, however, in 2017 the Dutch government announced they would consider testing again at age 14 to reassess a student's capabilities before entering the third year. This would give a chance for late bloomers or hard-working students to change to a higher education stream, and create more equality in the Dutch education system.

    VMBO (a further four years of school)
    Prep school for vocational secondary Dutch education; those who achieve the highest level (theoretische leerweg) can enter HAVO studies. VMBO graduates must continue studying until age 18 or until they obtain a basic qualification (minimum MBO level 2). Read more about vocational Dutch education.

    MBO: Secondary vocational Dutch education
    MBO programmes vary from one to four years depending on the level (1–4). All programmes combine practical learning in the classroom with hands-on training. If a student has successfully completed the Dutch VMBO or the international middle school programmes IGCSE or IB-MYP, but is not admitted to the IB-Diploma Programme, the MBO can prepare pupils for work or, if level 4 is achieved, professional studies (HBO). A number of English-language programmes are offered.

    HAVO (five years)
    Senior general secondary Dutch education. Provides entrance to higher professional education (hoger beroepsonderwijs HBO) at ‘vocational universities’.

    VWO (six years)
    Pre-university Dutch education. Prepares students for academic studies at a research university (Wetenschappelijk Onderwijs WO). VWO schools can be athenaeum, gymnasium or lyceum (a combination of the first two), a difference being that Greek and Latin are core subjects in gymnasium programmes.

    English is a compulsory subject in the secondary Dutch education system. VMBO pupils study one modern language and HAVO/VWO pupils at least two. Other core areas include mathematics, history, humanities, arts and sciences.

    Also at a secondary level, students have the choice between state-run or special private schools. Just under a third of the 659 secondary schools are run by the public authority.
     
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  18. sscrla

    sscrla Stage48 Moderator Staff Member Stage48 Moderator

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    From wikipedia:

    "The kyōiku kanji(教育漢字, lit. "education kanji") are 1,006 characters that Japanese children learn in elementary school.

    The jōyō kanji(常用漢字, regular-use kanji) are 2,136 characters consisting of all the Kyōiku kanji, plus 1,130 additional kanji taught in junior high and high school."

    Characters outside this set typically are published with either Hiragana or Katakana on top (Furigana) in small letters to show you the pronunciation. You can see this on a number of tv shows that show the name of a member and on SSK appeal videos and posters.
     
  19. dutchie

    dutchie Kenkyuusei Stage48 Donor

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    Yeah, I noticed that on the election posters, at first I thought it weird, but it makes perfect sense.
    Thatmanyuta(?) has a youtube video explaining why they don't use Hiragana or Katakana exclusively:


    And also a video exploring if Japanese people can actually write kanji:

    And read:


    To be honest, I've seen proposals to simplify Dutch spelling .... which can be pretty illogical .... and it just hurts your eyes :)
    (in the 60 of the last century it was in vogue to simplify foreign words like 'cadeau' to 'kado' (the pronunciation is the same) ... 'kado' or 'buro' just looks ugly to me ... )
     
  20. bonjourmarlene

    bonjourmarlene Rank 81-100 (Temporary Name)

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    I really love Yuta's videos, he seems really smart and a pretty fun person as well. I actually watched the first video, and that was kind of the reason why I thought "okay, I should really learn Kanji" and now looking at some text that's only written in kana does bother me quite a lot, too.

    About Miichan being jealous of Kojiharu in regards of Kanji, I wonder if it might simply be because Miichan used to have a very competitive persona and Kojiharu was known for being an airhead and being terrible at Kanji. I can imagine, despite being good friends, they still all considered each other rivals and she might have felt, "If Nyan can write/read this kanji, then I must be really stupid" and thus feels jealous specifically of her.
     

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