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NGT48 Assault Case

Discussion in 'General NGT48 Discussion' started by Cisalpine88, Jan 9, 2019.

  1. SaitoWinterStar

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    Summary for 5/5 (Sunday) translated from http://40298ch.com/test/read.cgi/karakoro/1548413013/374-
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  2. EinhanderX

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    Little correction: Its Togasaki own child that got threatened here. The death threat was sent to Togasaki current workplace just recently. He believes it comes from crowd enraged by his tweet back in March 2019.
     
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  3. Cristafari

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    My own observation of Maho's lane on Sunday, from when I went to visit Tani Marika in the lane almost directly opposite Mahohon...

     
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  5. lionel90

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    Wisest choice i suppose.
    So the suspicious girls avoid fans reactions.
    And it's hard to keep a good mood with people you no longer want to work with.
     
  6. Cisalpine88

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    Just a couple of business information, but details about the graduation stages have been published at last, and it turns out it will indeed feature only Maho, Riko, and Rena. Who decided about this setup is anyone's guess, since the management is pretty thrifty on words, but looking around at past handshake reports something tells me it's anything but the member's own intention (for example, Nakai seemingly told during a conversation with fans that she wanted to show up, but it was the higher-ups who decided it had to be so)...
    https://ngt48.com/news/detail/100003282

    An approximative schedule of the three member's activities from here on has also been released.
    In any case, Photolog and Mobame will be discontinued the day after the graduation stage, the status of Twitter and Instagram are "to be announced at a later date", whatever it is supposed to mean. Only the presents and fan letters to have arrived until June 18 will be handed over to members, also.
    Time to save some things before I pack my things up as well, then...
    https://ngt48.com/news/detail/100003283
    https://ngt48.com/news/detail/100003284
    https://ngt48.com/news/detail/100003285


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    A small description of the fan send-off at the ending of today's handshake event, taken from some fan reports that came up on my Twitter feed:

    まほほんのお見送りしてきた。最後れなぽんとりったんともふちゃんも出てきたんだけど、卒業を選んだ3人が笑顔で、NGTに残る決断をしたもふちゃんがすごい泣いてて切なかった、、。これからは別々の道を進むことになるけれど、みんな幸せになってほしい!!!
    https://twitter.com/aozora_1108/status/1125366158150885377

    Mahohon's send-off was held just a few moments ago. Toward the end of it, Renapon, Rittan, and Mofu-chan also made an appearance, but anyway the three members who chose to graduate all had a smiling expression, while on the other hand Mofu-chan, who decided to stay in NGT, was crying a lot instead. It was pretty sorrowful... From here on, each of them will proceed over different paths, but anyway I wish happiness for everyone!!!

    まほほんお見送り終わりました!
    最後はれなぽん、りったん、もふちゃんも前にまできてまほほんの挨拶を見守っていた。
    その時からもふちゃんだけは号泣し2人に慰められていた。
    まほほんの挨拶は拡声器を使ったが声が小さく聞き取れないが最後に「またね」は大きく発してくれたので聞こえた。
    https://twitter.com/sugisaki_ko/status/1125371010667012096

    Mahohon's send-off just ended!
    For last, Renapon, Rittan, and Mofu-chan also showed up on the front to observe Mahohon's greetings.
    From that point, Mofu-chan was the only one sobbing in tears, while she was being consoled by the other two.
    During Mahohon's greetings, she used a megaphone but since her voice was feeble there were bits I couldn't pick up, though at the closing "See you again" she shouted it out so loud that could be heard clearly.


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    Sanspo published a transcript of the three members' farewell speeches to the fans at the end of said send-off, so here's a translation of each. The photos from the gathering are from this Sponichi article instead:
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    皆さん、本当に今までありがとうございました。
    Everyone, thank you sincerely for having been here until now.

    今まで握手会を休むことなかったけど、今回のことで握手会を休んでしまって、皆さんに会えない間が4カ月ありました。きのう、きょうと握手会やるのもいろんな不安があったんですけど、皆さんとこうして会うことができて、みんなに出会うことができて嬉しかったです。
    I have never taken a period of rest from handshake events until today, but I found myself forced to due to this time's circumstances. It had been 4 months that I didn't have the chance to meet any of you. Yesterday, and today, I was filled with anxiety about holding a handshake session, but to be able to meet with you all like this, the fact I could cross paths with you all, makes me so happy.

    握手会を毎週のようにやれるのが凄く楽しかったし、私は凄く幸せでした。
    It felt extremely enjoyable to be able to have handshake sessions like every week, to me it felt extremely blissful.

    みんなの顔を見ると、思い出が一つ一つよみがえってきます。あんなことあったな、あんなことあったなって。1人1人の方と会ってお話できる握手会が大好きでした。
    Seeing everyone's face makes memories come back to mind one after another. "Now I remember this thing happened", "And that other thing too". I love handshake events, where I can meet each person individually and have a conversation together.

    たくさんの時間を掛けていろんな所から会いに来てくれる人がいて本当に幸せなことだなと思ったし、アイドルにならなかったらこんなにたくさんの方と、お話することなんてなかったんじゃないかなって思います。
    I feel really glad there have been so many people coming from different places, spending so much of their own time to come here. I do wonder if I would even have gotten to talk with so many people, had I never become an idol.

    みんなに会えて凄く幸せです。たくさんの思い出をありがとう。至らないところも多々あったんですが、全部受け止めてくれて、自分のことを「何でこんなに好きになってくれるんだろう」って毎回思っていて。でも、自分のことを好きになってくれる人がこんなに幸せなことなんだなって。アイドルになって知ることができたし、きのう、きょうと握手会をやれて、このために生きてたんだって思うぐらい幸せでした。みんなと会うことができてよかったし、みんなと会うために私はアイドルになったんだなって思います。
    I am happy I could meet you. And I owe you thanks for all the memories we had. While I had many shortcomings of my own, you still accepted everything about me. Every time, I found myself thinking to me "why did you grow to like me to such a degree?". Even so, to realize that those same people who grew to like me so much are being so much happy. There's somehing I got to know only thank to having become an idol. As I had the chance of holding a handshake session today and yesterday, it felt so blissful that I was thinking how this is the reason I am being alive for. I'm glad I could meet with you all. I wonder if it's to meet with you all, that I became an idol.

    毎週のように握手会をやって「久しぶり」って言って、「またね」って言える関係が凄く幸せでした。できることならまたみんなに「またね」って言って「久しぶり」って、また来週会うのに「久しぶり」って言えるような握手会がしたいなって思うけど…。アイドルとしては卒業しますけど、これからまた皆さんに会えるように頑張りたいと思うので、「またね」って言わせてください。
    What's more, I'm incredibly happy for this personal relationship we build, where every week like usual we would say "Welcome back", and then we could end by saying "See you again". If it's possible, I'd really like to have handshake meetings again where I may tell everyone "See you again" and "Welcome back", and then upon meeting the week after, be able to say back again "Welcome back". While I may be going to graduate as an idol, I'll work my best to be able to meet again with everyone, so allow me to say here and now "See you again".

    皆さん、またね~!
    Everyone, see you again!
    Source: https://www.sanspo.com/geino/news/20190506/akb19050622000005-n1.html

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    今日はNGT48としての最後の握手会をさせていただきました。
    Today I had the opportunity of attending my last handshaked event as part of NGT48.

    皆様に温かく見守っていただきながら、無事に握手会を終えることが出来ました。
    With everyone of you gently watching over me, we managed to make it to the end of it without any problems.

    この卒業は、次の夢への第一歩として、スタート地点だと思って、これからも頑張っていきたいです。
    I want to consider this graduation as a first step toward my next dreams, as a starting point, and so I want to keep giving my best even from here on.

    こんなにも温かいファンの方々から約3年間こうして応援していただいて本当に感謝の気持ちでいっぱいです。
    To have such kind fans giving me their support like this for about three years, I'm am truly overwhelment by a sense of gratitude.

    このような形で卒業をする以上はちゃんと自分の夢に向かって少しずつでも一歩ずつでも前に進んで必ず夢を叶えられるように頑張っていきたいと思いますし、私の夢はソロコンサートなんですが、夢にもまだまだ程遠くて、スタート地点に立ったばかりなので、これから発声練習などから始めて、絶対にみなさんと一緒に叶えたいなと思っています。
    As I have chosen to graduate in such a way, I also feel determined to do what I can to proceed ahead one small step at a time, and be able to fulfill my dream eventually. This dream of mine is to have a solo concert, but I am still very far away from reaching it, I only got to stand on the start line just now. For this reason, I'll be soon starting taking voice training lessons, and together with everyone of you I want to make this a reality for sure.

    ですので、みなさんの心の隅にでもその夢を置いていただけたら嬉しいです。
    Therefore, I'd be happy if you too can hold this dream in a corner of your own heart.

    いつになるかは分かりませんが諦めずに頑張ります。今度はみんなで嬉し涙を流したいです。
    I don't know when such a time will come, but I'll keep striving on without ever giving up. That time, I want to shed tears of happiness with you all.
    Source: https://www.sanspo.com/geino/news/20190506/akb19050623490006-n1.html

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    握手会ありがとうございました。ファンの皆様に直接感謝の気持ちをお伝えすることができて、嬉しかったです。卒業を発表してからの握手会日程が残り僅かということもあり、参加できなかった皆さんには申し訳ない気持ちでいっぱいです。本当にすみません。
    Thank you for having come to this handshake event. It makes me happy I could directly express my feelings of gratitude to all fans. Considering how there were only a few handshake sessions scheduled after I announced my graduation, I also feel like apologizing to all those who were unable to attend. I am truly sorry.

    『ありがとう』『またね』『頑張ろうね』『応援するよ』というお言葉が本当に心強かったです。ありがとうございます。そして、私の推し色の横断幕と花束ありがとうございました。315に幸せでした。今日の景色は一生忘れません。また皆さんと笑ってお話ができる日が来るように、次の夢に向かって本気で頑張ります!
    "Thank you", "See you next time", "Do your best!", "I'm rooting for you", all those words feel really comforting to me. Thanks. Moreover, thank you also for the banner and the flower bouquet with my own oshi colors. I'm feeling happy to the extreme [note: 315 = "saikou" = "to the extreme" is also the nickname of Rena's fanbase, Team Hasegawa 315] I'll never forget for like the moments that I saw today. Hoping that another day will come where I can get to laugh with and talk with you all, I'll work with all my might toward my next dreams!

    皆さんから頂いたお言葉を胸に、卒業公演で全力のパフォーマンスをします!最後まで、どうぞよろしくお願いします!
    I'm going to hold everyone's words in my chest and give a performance full of energy at the next graduation stage! Please take good care of me until last!

    本日は本当にありがとうございました。
    A sincere thank you for today.
    Source: https://www.sanspo.com/geino/news/20190507/akb19050700200001-n1.html

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    Since they're availble, news clips also including a glimpse of the handshake session and the send-off speech:
    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1125407969301020673/pu/vid/1280x720/Y3zv0UEySDvqn5gW.mp4
    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1125495340788961280/pu/vid/992x556/D9tse_JD0nDaVW2h.mp4
     
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  7. SaitoWinterStar

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    Fixed, thanks!

    I don't like it. I wish at least the old Team G members would have been allowed to perform - there's nothing suspicious about that. Maybe the three of them chose to perform alone, but to me this feels like a final cold shoulder from management. Maybe there are factions within the staff fighting each other, able to secure Maho, Riko, and Rena a graduation stage at the cost of it being alone.
     
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  8. sscrla

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    While I don't know who decided that only the three would appear, I do know that a three person stage can be really good. The AKB48 14th gen stage with Mako, Miki, and Naachan is one of my favorites (for obvious reasons).
     
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    Yes, that was a great stage, one of my favourites too. It was done in the final days of Nishino Miki's tenure in the group but Miki ALSO got a graduation stage with Team 4 a few days later.

    The decision for only the 3 graduating NGT girls to be in the performance seems to be yet another management decision to psychologically punish Maho and the girls that support her. It's another punishment because Maho let the cat out of the bag on how shoddy an organisation AKS is.

    The organisation of Maho's HS lane also seems like another method to isolate Maho from the other members. The prescence of AKS staff was, I presume, to make sure that Maho or the fans didn't talk about NG stuff (ie any anti-AKS stuff).
     
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  10. sscrla

    sscrla Stage48 Moderator Staff Member Stage48 Moderator

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    I wonder if they will have VTR from other members as the three musketeers did from the other members of Tentoumu Chu!. Given management, I doubt it.
     
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  11. SaitoWinterStar

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    It was a busy day, so I felt like I should cover it here. Summary for 5/6 (Monday) translated from http://40298ch.com/test/read.cgi/karakoro/1548413013/374-
    Please let me know if I made a mistake!
     
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  13. Konno A.

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    Kind of a side note, but Rena seems so heartbroken leaving NGT. They all looked really nice during their last handshake event tho. Glad it went well tho.
     
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    riko is still recovering from her knee surgery, she didn't dance at all and only sang one song on team g's senshuuraku, it would be a big question if she can handle the whole stage... or eventually only maho and rena would be doing most part of the performance.
     
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    tuxedo_gin Kenkyuusei

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    For those thinking about attending, the long distance ticket applications are up on the ticket center.
     
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    Cisalpine88 Upcoming Girls

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    Pretty much, this seems to be what things are really turning out to be. By the way, I'll take the opportunity to post this:
    In case we need some more evidence, Team 8's Hashimoto Haruna, who's been a close friend of Rittan for quite some time, also let out this little confidential secret on Showroom just yesterday (that is to say, 2019/05/06 in case anyone wants to find the exact recording date).
    In other words, a restraining order was basically issued to the other members by the management to not show up at any of the three members' send-off, either for a group photo (like other members would usually do) or for anything else:

    "(reading a comment) «Did you get to meet Rittan?» I did! Actually, I was invited by Rittan to come over and pose together around the banner, since it was to be the last moment available. I was dying to be there, myself. So I even replied to Riko «I'll be there, I'll be there!», on the LINE chat.
    And then... You know how the handshake event session was paused at one point in the middle? Right at that moment people from the staff told us «For this time, (the member send-off) will consist of only those members themselves alone», since it was decided no one from their own (=NGT48) group was permitted to show up there, nor anyone from the other groups either, for that matter -- we were explained. How depressing it was.
    But after the handshake session was over, between the 3rd and the 4th time slot we got to talk anyway. I talked a lot with Rittan. To the point I don't even know what we were talking about anymore. I'm happy I got to see Rittan's face again after so long. We even took photos together...
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    https://twitter.com/moritto0730/status/1125708134457077761
    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1125707032584081408/pu/vid/824x462/VrWl7iTLM-0OdUUw.mp4


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    Now, keeping that in mind, this one is pretty interesting for one further reason. Pretty much every news article and clip that I have perused these days clearly described Maho's whole condition at the handshake event, starting with the walled lane and everything else, as being pretty much a state of "isolation" imposed from the outside (like, say, in this Nikkan Sports article), but take a look at how on the other hand a newspaper like Sponichi tried to pass off the situation at the send-off gathering to their readers (only translating the relevant bits for the sake of brevity):

    https://www.sponichi.co.jp/entertainment/news/2019/05/07/kiji/20190507s00041000004000c.html

    昨年12月にファンの男性2人から暴行被害を受けたNGT48山口真帆(23)が6日、パシフィコ横浜でのAKB48個別握手会で、卒業前の最後のファンとの交流に臨んだ。最後を見送るファンとの記念撮影は、山口を含め卒業する3人の他にはグループに残るメンバー1人だけが参加。他のNGT48メンバーとの溝の深さを改めて浮き彫りにした。また、山口は初めて芸能活動の継続を自らの口で語った。
    NGT48's Yamaguchi Maho, who was victim of a physical assault by two male fans last December, took part in an interaction with fans, the last one before her graduation, at the individual AKB48 handshake event held at Pacifico Yokohama on the 6th of the current month. At the commemorative group photo together with fans, who gave here one last send-off, other than the three members about to graduate, among which is Yamaguchi, only one other member participated out of the ones still to remain in the group. This highlighted once again how deep a divide there is with the other NGT48 members. Furthermore, for the first time, Yamaguchi talked with her own voice about continuing in her entertainment activities.

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    最後のファンとの記念撮影には、ともに卒業するもう1人の菅原りこ(18)と、NGTには残留するが、山口とともに運営との対決姿勢を取り続けていた村雲颯香(21)が参加。山口と“山口派”と呼ばれる3人だけとなり、山口が疑いをかけたメンバーだけでなく、先月21日まで一緒だった元チームGメンバーも現れなかった。運営だけでなく、約3年半も一緒にグループをつくってきた他のメンバーとの亀裂も修復できないままの現状を表していた。
    Participating together at the last commemorative group photo with fans, was also another member who she is to graduate along with, Sugahara Riko (18), and Murakumo Fuuka (21) who maintained a confrontational stance against the management together with Yamaguchi but will stay in NGT. With only Yamaguchi and the other three people of what is called the "Yamaguchi camp" turning up there, it means not only the members that Yamaguchi had cast suspicions on didn't show up, but also those former Team G members that they had been together with until the 21st of last month. This showed a situation where an irreparable division exists, not only with the management, but also with the other members who built up the group together for about three years and a half.

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    I already pointed out some reason as to why I think so in the past, like their way of mischaracterizing the very cause of the incident itself, but recently Sponichi starts giving me the impression they are playing the "sontaku" game with the management a bit too close: trying to follow their orders and spread their version of the story even if it is being exaggerated at the expenses of Maho's image, sometimes even bordering on "lugenpresse" territory such as in this case.
    I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the article above happened to match the official narrative that the management is trying to peddle around to the press from here on...

    With all that in mind, that makes Mofu (and Kado-chan too, since she apparently was reported as having been present at the send-off too, but wasn't mentioned at all on the press for some unclear reason) not the only remaining member still willing to stick by Maho's side, as management is trying to paint her to be these days, but one of the few sensible enough to refuse playing along with the management's ridicuolous diktats since there's nothing to gain from it, if anything.
     
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  17. SaitoWinterStar

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    Thankfully @Cisalpine88 covered some of these already in better detail above, but I had started the translations so I might as well post it - Summary for 5/7 (Tuesday) translated from http://40298ch.com/test/read.cgi/karakoro/1548413013/374-
    Please let me know if I made a mistake!
     
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  18. mcbcagirl

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    I wish I could say this was the last nail on the coffin for ngt management and aks but then as I was reading the post regarding hashimoto haruna's showroom on Twitter, I saw how a few people actually blamed Maho for the entire situation and claimed she was the one who wanted the handshake and graduation ceremony to be like that, and how no member is ever able to go to another member's handshake farewell lane so that management is just doing her bidding... that's when I realized many people might think that way and this is how management will end up completely shunning the girls for speaking up or standing with maho...
     
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  19. half23

    half23 Rank 81-100 (Temporary Name)

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    i'm pretty sure there are people who have the same opinion like those on the showroom even in s48, but they probably do not post on this thread because they will be ganged by people
     
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  20. Cisalpine88

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    I think we both know who that guy is and what username he used to go by on this forum before being inevitably banned. The least he can do is maybe getting facts straight if he doesn't know what a "miokuri"/send-off means and how it has nothing to do with "going to another member's handshake lane".
    For a recent reference...
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