Discussion in 'General NGT48 Discussion' started by Cisalpine88, Jan 9, 2019.
Yes, as far as I remember
Summary for 5/5 (Sunday) translated from http://40298ch.com/test/read.cgi/karakoro/1548413013/374-
Please let me know if I made a mistake!
Yamaguchi Maho participates the day's handshake event. "Entertainment activities will continue" and "I know the cosmetics of Mahohon on Twitter"
Sugahara Riko handshake reports
Hasegawa Rena handshake reports
Murakumo Fuka handshake reports
A TV station asks to interview Maho fans
Maho sends a mobame during the handshake event, "Ah, being an idol is fun"
Late at night, Maho liked a fan-made schedule for her handshake event [for those coming with make-up tickets from past events she missed]
Before Ogino blocked Inaoka on twitter, he insulted her
Former AKS theater manager Togasaki announces he will hold a briefing session; is berated by comments on Twitter.
Article: "Be careful your kid isn't hurt or killed" former AKB manager Togasaki receives threat, fiery Twitter responses to his meeting plans
Article: "Maho's handshake was under strict guard, fans want assailants punished"
A list of many other NGT-related articles from the day
Talk from Wide na Show about Maho and the NGT case
"I consulted with Akimoto"
"It seems the company has been operating in its own way"
"Although he should have been consulted first, NGT activities were announced without consulting Akimoto"
"After changes at the top of the company, Akimoto has become just a creative producer"
"It's from an intermediary with Maho, but that person heard that Maho and Akimoto spoke"
Related videos from Twitter
and from YouTube (starting from 13:40)
Sashihara Rino, on consultations with Akimoto on the NGT problem, "the company neither consults with nor reports to Akimoto"
Matsumoto Hitoshi [of comedy duo Downtown] on the unrest about Maho and NGT, "who is responsible?", and he feels Maho is not graduating but being thrown out for the good of the company
Questions raised by a former Sankei Shimbun reporter
Little correction: Its Togasaki own child that got threatened here. The death threat was sent to Togasaki current workplace just recently. He believes it comes from crowd enraged by his tweet back in March 2019.
My own observation of Maho's lane on Sunday, from when I went to visit Tani Marika in the lane almost directly opposite Mahohon...
so they really decided that only the 3 of them, maho, rena and riko, will be performing on the graduation stage
Wisest choice i suppose.
So the suspicious girls avoid fans reactions.
And it's hard to keep a good mood with people you no longer want to work with.
Just a couple of business information, but details about the graduation stages have been published at last, and it turns out it will indeed feature only Maho, Riko, and Rena. Who decided about this setup is anyone's guess, since the management is pretty thrifty on words, but looking around at past handshake reports something tells me it's anything but the member's own intention (for example, Nakai seemingly told during a conversation with fans that she wanted to show up, but it was the higher-ups who decided it had to be so)...
An approximative schedule of the three member's activities from here on has also been released.
In any case, Photolog and Mobame will be discontinued the day after the graduation stage, the status of Twitter and Instagram are "to be announced at a later date", whatever it is supposed to mean. Only the presents and fan letters to have arrived until June 18 will be handed over to members, also.
Time to save some things before I pack my things up as well, then...
A small description of the fan send-off at the ending of today's handshake event, taken from some fan reports that came up on my Twitter feed:
Mahohon's send-off was held just a few moments ago. Toward the end of it, Renapon, Rittan, and Mofu-chan also made an appearance, but anyway the three members who chose to graduate all had a smiling expression, while on the other hand Mofu-chan, who decided to stay in NGT, was crying a lot instead. It was pretty sorrowful... From here on, each of them will proceed over different paths, but anyway I wish happiness for everyone!!!
Mahohon's send-off just ended!
For last, Renapon, Rittan, and Mofu-chan also showed up on the front to observe Mahohon's greetings.
From that point, Mofu-chan was the only one sobbing in tears, while she was being consoled by the other two.
During Mahohon's greetings, she used a megaphone but since her voice was feeble there were bits I couldn't pick up, though at the closing "See you again" she shouted it out so loud that could be heard clearly.
Sanspo published a transcript of the three members' farewell speeches to the fans at the end of said send-off, so here's a translation of each. The photos from the gathering are from this Sponichi article instead:
Everyone, thank you sincerely for having been here until now.
I have never taken a period of rest from handshake events until today, but I found myself forced to due to this time's circumstances. It had been 4 months that I didn't have the chance to meet any of you. Yesterday, and today, I was filled with anxiety about holding a handshake session, but to be able to meet with you all like this, the fact I could cross paths with you all, makes me so happy.
It felt extremely enjoyable to be able to have handshake sessions like every week, to me it felt extremely blissful.
Seeing everyone's face makes memories come back to mind one after another. "Now I remember this thing happened", "And that other thing too". I love handshake events, where I can meet each person individually and have a conversation together.
I feel really glad there have been so many people coming from different places, spending so much of their own time to come here. I do wonder if I would even have gotten to talk with so many people, had I never become an idol.
I am happy I could meet you. And I owe you thanks for all the memories we had. While I had many shortcomings of my own, you still accepted everything about me. Every time, I found myself thinking to me "why did you grow to like me to such a degree?". Even so, to realize that those same people who grew to like me so much are being so much happy. There's somehing I got to know only thank to having become an idol. As I had the chance of holding a handshake session today and yesterday, it felt so blissful that I was thinking how this is the reason I am being alive for. I'm glad I could meet with you all. I wonder if it's to meet with you all, that I became an idol.
What's more, I'm incredibly happy for this personal relationship we build, where every week like usual we would say "Welcome back", and then we could end by saying "See you again". If it's possible, I'd really like to have handshake meetings again where I may tell everyone "See you again" and "Welcome back", and then upon meeting the week after, be able to say back again "Welcome back". While I may be going to graduate as an idol, I'll work my best to be able to meet again with everyone, so allow me to say here and now "See you again".
Everyone, see you again!
Today I had the opportunity of attending my last handshaked event as part of NGT48.
With everyone of you gently watching over me, we managed to make it to the end of it without any problems.
I want to consider this graduation as a first step toward my next dreams, as a starting point, and so I want to keep giving my best even from here on.
To have such kind fans giving me their support like this for about three years, I'm am truly overwhelment by a sense of gratitude.
As I have chosen to graduate in such a way, I also feel determined to do what I can to proceed ahead one small step at a time, and be able to fulfill my dream eventually. This dream of mine is to have a solo concert, but I am still very far away from reaching it, I only got to stand on the start line just now. For this reason, I'll be soon starting taking voice training lessons, and together with everyone of you I want to make this a reality for sure.
Therefore, I'd be happy if you too can hold this dream in a corner of your own heart.
I don't know when such a time will come, but I'll keep striving on without ever giving up. That time, I want to shed tears of happiness with you all.
Thank you for having come to this handshake event. It makes me happy I could directly express my feelings of gratitude to all fans. Considering how there were only a few handshake sessions scheduled after I announced my graduation, I also feel like apologizing to all those who were unable to attend. I am truly sorry.
"Thank you", "See you next time", "Do your best!", "I'm rooting for you", all those words feel really comforting to me. Thanks. Moreover, thank you also for the banner and the flower bouquet with my own oshi colors. I'm feeling happy to the extreme [note: 315 = "saikou" = "to the extreme" is also the nickname of Rena's fanbase, Team Hasegawa 315] I'll never forget for like the moments that I saw today. Hoping that another day will come where I can get to laugh with and talk with you all, I'll work with all my might toward my next dreams!
I'm going to hold everyone's words in my chest and give a performance full of energy at the next graduation stage! Please take good care of me until last!
A sincere thank you for today.
Since they're availble, news clips also including a glimpse of the handshake session and the send-off speech:
I don't like it. I wish at least the old Team G members would have been allowed to perform - there's nothing suspicious about that. Maybe the three of them chose to perform alone, but to me this feels like a final cold shoulder from management. Maybe there are factions within the staff fighting each other, able to secure Maho, Riko, and Rena a graduation stage at the cost of it being alone.
While I don't know who decided that only the three would appear, I do know that a three person stage can be really good. The AKB48 14th gen stage with Mako, Miki, and Naachan is one of my favorites (for obvious reasons).
Yes, that was a great stage, one of my favourites too. It was done in the final days of Nishino Miki's tenure in the group but Miki ALSO got a graduation stage with Team 4 a few days later.
The decision for only the 3 graduating NGT girls to be in the performance seems to be yet another management decision to psychologically punish Maho and the girls that support her. It's another punishment because Maho let the cat out of the bag on how shoddy an organisation AKS is.
The organisation of Maho's HS lane also seems like another method to isolate Maho from the other members. The prescence of AKS staff was, I presume, to make sure that Maho or the fans didn't talk about NG stuff (ie any anti-AKS stuff).
I wonder if they will have VTR from other members as the three musketeers did from the other members of Tentoumu Chu!. Given management, I doubt it.
It was a busy day, so I felt like I should cover it here. Summary for 5/6 (Monday) translated from http://40298ch.com/test/read.cgi/karakoro/1548413013/374-
Please let me know if I made a mistake!
Maho, Riko, and Rena's last handshake event and send-off
https://i.imgur.com/LBJE7H8.jpg (*It is said Murakumo has a cleft chin, and there is an episode where Hasegawa Rena depicts a cleft chin like on a towel)
The NGT official site finally announces their graduation stage plans
From Nakai Rika "(about the graduation stage) she says she wants to attend. However, it is decided from above..."
The state of Hayakawa's Manager Room
The NGT official site posts about the remaining activities for Maho, Riko, and Rena
Riko posts tweets "to all fans"
Rena tweets "I wrote my feelings on finishing my last handshake event"
The NGT case discussed on Miyaneya
video starting at 1:24:50
Evening news stories on Maho and the others
FujiTV Live News it!
Questions about the NGT case from a [former?] Sankei Shimbun reporter
NGT-related articles [apologies in advance, these headlines were hard for me to understand]
From Lite-ra: "Yamaguchi Maho's mysterious apology to Sashihara Rino and Akimoto Yasushi! What I want to tell Yamaguchi, Lite-ra confronted the intimate relationship between AKS and Akimoto Yasushi"
From Tokyo Sports: "Sugahara Riko accompanies Yamaguchi Maho - watches over conversations with fans"
From Nikkan Sports: "Sugahara Riko [said "let's meet again"] "at a future handshake" - together with Yamaguchi Maho at their last handshake event"
From Netallica: "Management's miscalculation of the NGT48 "restart" - On a TV show it is pointed out (with an unclear view of the situation) this is "the same as school bullying""
Many other NGT-related articles
Full text of Maho's last greetings
From someone who asked questions in the Manager's Room, "There were almost zero answers"
Tweet from Kusakabe Aina
From Tokyo Sports: "Maho: "I had various anxieties but..." tearful greetings at her last handshake event"
From Daily Sports: "At NGT's Yamaguchi Maho's last handshake event "See you again!" , the suggestion of continued entertainment activities"
From Sponichi Annex: "NGT's Yamaguchi Maho and good friend Sugahara Riko - Tears at the last handshake event - First steps to the dream of a solo concert, "Next time these will be tears of happiness"
I didn't see this one in your list:
"Maho Yamaguchi's last greeting with tears "Let me say again"
Bonus pics of Riko and Rena at handshake
Kind of a side note, but Rena seems so heartbroken leaving NGT. They all looked really nice during their last handshake event tho. Glad it went well tho.
riko is still recovering from her knee surgery, she didn't dance at all and only sang one song on team g's senshuuraku, it would be a big question if she can handle the whole stage... or eventually only maho and rena would be doing most part of the performance.
For those thinking about attending, the long distance ticket applications are up on the ticket center.
Pretty much, this seems to be what things are really turning out to be. By the way, I'll take the opportunity to post this:
In case we need some more evidence, Team 8's Hashimoto Haruna, who's been a close friend of Rittan for quite some time, also let out this little confidential secret on Showroom just yesterday (that is to say, 2019/05/06 in case anyone wants to find the exact recording date).
In other words, a restraining order was basically issued to the other members by the management to not show up at any of the three members' send-off, either for a group photo (like other members would usually do) or for anything else:
"(reading a comment) «Did you get to meet Rittan?» I did! Actually, I was invited by Rittan to come over and pose together around the banner, since it was to be the last moment available. I was dying to be there, myself. So I even replied to Riko «I'll be there, I'll be there!», on the LINE chat.
And then... You know how the handshake event session was paused at one point in the middle? Right at that moment people from the staff told us «For this time, (the member send-off) will consist of only those members themselves alone», since it was decided no one from their own (=NGT48) group was permitted to show up there, nor anyone from the other groups either, for that matter -- we were explained. How depressing it was.
But after the handshake session was over, between the 3rd and the 4th time slot we got to talk anyway. I talked a lot with Rittan. To the point I don't even know what we were talking about anymore. I'm happy I got to see Rittan's face again after so long. We even took photos together..."
Now, keeping that in mind, this one is pretty interesting for one further reason. Pretty much every news article and clip that I have perused these days clearly described Maho's whole condition at the handshake event, starting with the walled lane and everything else, as being pretty much a state of "isolation" imposed from the outside (like, say, in this Nikkan Sports article), but take a look at how on the other hand a newspaper like Sponichi tried to pass off the situation at the send-off gathering to their readers (only translating the relevant bits for the sake of brevity):
NGT48's Yamaguchi Maho, who was victim of a physical assault by two male fans last December, took part in an interaction with fans, the last one before her graduation, at the individual AKB48 handshake event held at Pacifico Yokohama on the 6th of the current month. At the commemorative group photo together with fans, who gave here one last send-off, other than the three members about to graduate, among which is Yamaguchi, only one other member participated out of the ones still to remain in the group. This highlighted once again how deep a divide there is with the other NGT48 members. Furthermore, for the first time, Yamaguchi talked with her own voice about continuing in her entertainment activities.
Participating together at the last commemorative group photo with fans, was also another member who she is to graduate along with, Sugahara Riko (18), and Murakumo Fuuka (21) who maintained a confrontational stance against the management together with Yamaguchi but will stay in NGT. With only Yamaguchi and the other three people of what is called the "Yamaguchi camp" turning up there, it means not only the members that Yamaguchi had cast suspicions on didn't show up, but also those former Team G members that they had been together with until the 21st of last month. This showed a situation where an irreparable division exists, not only with the management, but also with the other members who built up the group together for about three years and a half.
I already pointed out some reason as to why I think so in the past, like their way of mischaracterizing the very cause of the incident itself, but recently Sponichi starts giving me the impression they are playing the "sontaku" game with the management a bit too close: trying to follow their orders and spread their version of the story even if it is being exaggerated at the expenses of Maho's image, sometimes even bordering on "lugenpresse" territory such as in this case.
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the article above happened to match the official narrative that the management is trying to peddle around to the press from here on...
With all that in mind, that makes Mofu (and Kado-chan too, since she apparently was reported as having been present at the send-off too, but wasn't mentioned at all on the press for some unclear reason) not the only remaining member still willing to stick by Maho's side, as management is trying to paint her to be these days, but one of the few sensible enough to refuse playing along with the management's ridicuolous diktats since there's nothing to gain from it, if anything.
Thankfully @Cisalpine88 covered some of these already in better detail above, but I had started the translations so I might as well post it - Summary for 5/7 (Tuesday) translated from http://40298ch.com/test/read.cgi/karakoro/1548413013/374-
Please let me know if I made a mistake!
AKS ordered that only Murakumo Fuka and Kado Yuria could attend the final send-off for the three graduating members.
Sugahara Riko's good friend on Team 8, Hashimoto Haruna, revealed on Showroom that they were told by staff that no one from NGT or any other group would be showing up at the send-off event.
From Sponichi: "Deep in the gutter... Yamaguchi Maho - last exchange with fans - a send off with just one member"
Tweet from Oguma Tsugumi "It was Mahochan, Rittan, and Ponchan's last handshake. I wanted to be able to see it myself,, it's lonely"
Mail from Murakumo Fuka
Instastory from Hashimoto Haruna about when the three announced their graduation
https://i.imgur.com/XwBM0sO.jpg (the cherries are Riko, the fairy is Maho, and the baseball is Rena)
Tweet from Kusakabe Aina
Full text of the final messages from Maho, Riko, and Rena
From Niigata Nippo: "Yamaguchi: "Thank you for the memories" - Final handshake event - Thanks to the fans"
In the Manager's Room, manager Hayakawa seemed displeased while reading written questions
Tweets from the person who handed in written questions concerning the "Manager's Room report" and the "written questions"
Manager's Room report
A flyer written to Hasegawa Rena found on the way to Tainai station [in Niigata]
Headline from Tokyo Sports [print edition]: "Friction with NGT Yamaguchi's graduation - Akimoto vs. Management"
(Rumor) Tano Ayaka is the perpetrator - seen with Kitagawa Takeshi
From Sports Hochi: "It was announced that the three - Yamaguchi, Sugahara, and Hasegawa - would appear at the graduation stage, however it may be possible that nearly 10 members appear"
Morning information and news shows take on the final handshake event for Yamaguchi, Hasegawa, and Sugahara
TV Asahi Good Morning
"The graduation of Yamaguchi Maho from NGT - the reason for the ongoing turmoil is the management (a culture of looking the other way)"
"NGT - Official tweets resume after 100 days... are buffeted with criticism "why must these three quit?""
"Yamaguchi Maho felt a bit "uncomfortable" in an official photo from her last handshake event / Entertainment business insider"
"Yamaguchi Maho has a gently intriguing character, is a possible fit for variety"
"In a surprise, more than 1000 messages, "more letters than expected", are received for Yamaguchi Maho's graduation - a volunteer booth is established"
I wish I could say this was the last nail on the coffin for ngt management and aks but then as I was reading the post regarding hashimoto haruna's showroom on Twitter, I saw how a few people actually blamed Maho for the entire situation and claimed she was the one who wanted the handshake and graduation ceremony to be like that, and how no member is ever able to go to another member's handshake farewell lane so that management is just doing her bidding... that's when I realized many people might think that way and this is how management will end up completely shunning the girls for speaking up or standing with maho...
i'm pretty sure there are people who have the same opinion like those on the showroom even in s48, but they probably do not post on this thread because they will be ganged by people