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NGT48 Assault Case

Discussion in 'General NGT48 Discussion' started by Cisalpine88, Jan 9, 2019.

  1. Mikuriin

    Mikuriin Future Girls

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    Yes, I hope they get the success they deserved! And banzai to AkiP too!
     
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  2. SaitoWinterStar

    SaitoWinterStar Upcoming Girls Stage48 Donor

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    My translation of the summary from https://jbbs.shitaraba.net/bbs/read.cgi/music/29852/1553736787 for 6/13 (Thursday).

    236LillyRush :2019/06/13(木) 22:15:41
    ★6月13日(木)

    ・元NGT大滝友梨亜が厄介からNGTメンバーを守ろうとしていたという話
     https://i.imgur.com/KCdNlAU.jpg
     https://i.imgur.com/UcQLI5n.jpg

    ・今日の新潟日報
     https://i.imgur.com/bCCkMvL.jpg

    ・長谷川玲奈がインスタ投稿
     https://i.imgur.com/gz4DhQo.jpg

    ・長谷川玲奈こぼればなし
     https://i.imgur.com/jbsxolA.jpg

    ・太野は気に入らないメンバーの卒業に合わせてソツギョウパーカーを着ていた?という話
     http://www.jikenjiko-hukabori.com/article/467102185.html

    ・西潟が加藤美南との2ショット写真を送ってきたもよう

    ・NGT関連記事

     ▽Weezy:山口真帆が事務所移籍で「大河ドラマまで内定」とされる完勝ぶり
     https://wezz-y.com/archives/66804

    237LillyRush :2019/06/14(金) 00:01:29
    ★6月13日(木)【追加】

    ・日下部愛菜のフォトログ「1期生の学生組とレッスン毎日一緒にやってる」
     https://i.imgur.com/hqDHg6n.jpg

    ・本間日陽のフォトログ「毎日メンバーとレッスン頑張っています。いつか公演をまたできる日に向けて」
     https://i.imgur.com/VuQC2Vf.jpg

    ・中村歩加のフォトログ「みんなみんな だいすき ありがとう」
     https://i.imgur.com/dAXSFt0.jpg

    ・12日の西潟のモバメ「辞めていく後輩の背中をそっと押してあげることしか出来ない」
     https://i.imgur.com/oGo8NsS.jpg

    [Late additions]
     
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  3. lost_letter

    lost_letter Kenkyuusei

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    Can I clarify a point that I might have got wrong.

    Maho says she was attacked by men coming out of a member's room opposite.
    In the incident recording she asks the men why they had keys to that apartment.
    Much later NGT say the room was not a member's room but rented by someone else and they had no control over it.

    Three weeks after the incident the assaulters were released by the police.
    So if we believe NGT's story the assaulters were able to return to the room opposite Maho?
    From late December did Maho have to live opposite her assaulters?
    (or their friends)

    People were outraged when there was suggestion that the assaulters were in the audience for her apology. But how much worse if they were staying in her corridor?
     
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  4. half23

    half23 Upcoming Girls

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    wasn't the perpetrators detained in jail for 20 days or so?
     
  5. lost_letter

    lost_letter Kenkyuusei

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    Yes, but after that. They were released late December if I recall. Maho's sobbing Showroom was early January.
     
  6. Falx1984

    Falx1984 Kenkyuusei

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    They were found to have multiple apartments around the city apparently.
     
  7. Reveen

    Reveen Under Girls

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    Well we know that Maho wasn't part of the "putting out club". It's possible that pressure was put on Miyajima to put out too but she didn't because that whole period of her hiatus and graduation was pretty fishy. I think we can presume Yuria was part of the good girl clique too.

    As for Tano, everything from the last 6 months or so paints her as a vindictive, spiteful wench lol
     
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  8. wlerin

    wlerin Next Girls

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    Did you actually look at the "timeline" before posting this? Most of the times she wore it were nowhere near announcements or graduations.
     
  9. Cisalpine88

    Cisalpine88 Next Girls

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    Maho missed a lot of theater stages, TV performances, concerts and basically other group activities from the middle of December up to January, which at the time were officially explained as being due to bad health. Adding to the fact that both herself and her relatives (like it's told in this interview on Niigata Nippo) said she found it impossible to step outside alone, I think that at some point after December she just wasn't likely residing in the pseudo-dormitories anymore (I have to check again what was the last group activity she had in Niigata, but I think she came back for the Christmas stage or something, after which she didn't show up again?).
    I can't even tell if even the disclosure stream (her first stream since December 5) was done at her old apartment, considering the blank background, but the angle surely wasn't the same as any of the streams she had since, let's say, 2016.

    Strangely, we don't know if assaulters were given restraining orders, expelled from the building or anything, and probably we won't. I have to guess that them not being prosecuted, thus making them basically free men, prevents any details on what steps were taken about them from being released to the public. For one thing, I find it odd that even in that research report there is nothing mentioned about it (the most that's written is a brief note that the police performed a fingerprints check on the apartment of Maho, but we aren't made to know about anything more, or anything concerning the assailant's side).
    For what it's worth, there was also an insider info regarding a couple of room rental listings from the building which is most likely assumed to be the one where the incident took place (this is merely an inference made by collecting some other previous leaks). Inside of it, it turns out there're at least two rooms from the same floor (3rd) that became free since December 18th and December 25th respectively, but who knows for certain...
    https://twitter.com/stoned_idiot/status/1135433272274481153
     
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  10. lost_letter

    lost_letter Kenkyuusei

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    Thanks.

    It's surprising that NGT management want to say that these guys independently rented a room in the NGT dorms. Do they think having borderline criminal fans living in the NGT apartments is somehow better than if they only occasionally visited? We know from the third party report as well as showroom shout-outs that some members knew these guys personally. So we can imagine what the apartments must have been like. It must have been poisonous for anyone who criticised the status quo as Maho did when she asked for a safer environment.
     
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  11. Dill

    Dill Next Girls

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    I thought she stayed at Riko's for some time? I'm trying to remember but I think she said it herself, or it was implied in some of the explanations mobames.
     
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  12. SaitoWinterStar

    SaitoWinterStar Upcoming Girls Stage48 Donor

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    My translation of the summary from https://jbbs.shitaraba.net/bbs/read.cgi/music/29852/1553736787 for 6/14 (Friday).
    238LillyRush :2019/06/14(金) 22:35:39
    ★6月14日(金)

    ・2015年に公開された乃木坂46のドキュメンタリー映画「悲しみの忘れ方」のクレジットから「吉成夏子」「松村匠」の名前が消される
     ▽2015年の公開当時
     https://i.imgur.com/qixAooK.jpg
     ▽現在
     https://i.imgur.com/yd4lkhy.jpg

    ・【真偽不明】「太野と西潟で仲違い」「西潟は楽になりたいから謝っておこうという考え」
     https://i.imgur.com/BdQGCjF.jpg

    ・NGT研究生 諸橋 姫向(もろはし ひなた)フォトログ
     「今日もレッスンでした」「その成果を早く皆さんにお見せ出来たらいいなと思ってます」
     https://i.imgur.com/PjsQc57.jpg

    ・小熊倫実モバメでも今週は5日間、基礎レッスンだったとのこと

    ・まいじつ:山口真帆に寄り添った長谷川玲奈が声優へ転身! 一方『NGT48』はいまだに…
     https://myjitsu.jp/archives/86114
    • The names "Yoshinari Natsuko" and "Matsumura Takumi" were erased from the credits of Nogizaka46's 2015 documentary "悲しみの忘れ方" ["How to forget sadness"]
    • (Rumor) Tano and Nishigata had a falling out - Because Nishigata wants to be at ease she intends to apologize
    • NGT kenkyuusei Morohashi Hinata's Photolog
    • From Oguma Tsugumi's mobame, they had basic lessons for 5 days this week
    • From Myjitsu: "Yamaguchi Maho's confidant Hasegawa Rena becomes a voice actress! On the other hand, NGT48 is now..."
     
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  13. sdn48oshi

    sdn48oshi Upcoming Girls

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    Watch out Gatanee, Tano might send those guys after you next.
     
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  14. ryandtw

    ryandtw Next Girls

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    How are these two related to NGT48?
     
  15. Mikuriin

    Mikuriin Future Girls

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    I was about to ask this but since I just "casually" follow this case there will be a lot of information slipped from my knowledge, so I refrain to do so :^^;:
     
  16. tomumion

    tomumion Kenkyuusei

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    Aren't they AKS' president and NGT48's new manager? If so, they're related I believe.
     
  17. ysa73

    ysa73 Future Girls

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    yoshinari is the president who currently holds 100% of aks's share; matsumura is the aks board of directors member, who failed miserably at that 3rd party investigation press conference
     
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  18. SaitoWinterStar

    SaitoWinterStar Upcoming Girls Stage48 Donor

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    My translation of the summary from https://jbbs.shitaraba.net/bbs/read.cgi/music/29852/1553736787 for 6/15 (Saturday).
    ★6月15日(土)

    ・長谷川玲奈が北原里英に会う
     https://i.imgur.com/3dP4yb4.jpg
     https://i.imgur.com/C0EbK8w.jpg

    ・長谷川玲奈が邪神ちゃん展に登場
     https://i.imgur.com/U5d9rUS.jpg
     https://i.imgur.com/dSlPgmJ.jpg
     https://i.imgur.com/iuicDCv.jpg
     https://i.imgur.com/KIbPIWx.jpg

    ・朝日新聞に菅原りこ、長谷川玲奈についての記事が載る
     https://i.imgur.com/fkIEin4.jpg
     https://i.imgur.com/f7yJu1Q.jpg
     11日のツイート
     https://i.imgur.com/cGb84GD.jpg

    ・2017年12月から笠井が太野と付き合い始めた、という話
     https://i.imgur.com/fuD4WR3.jpg
     ▽【NGT48】太野彩香応援スレ★5【アヤカニ】
     https://mao.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/ngt/1547184620/

    ・去年12月末のスレについての話題
     ▽山口さんが精神的に追い込まれたのは、事件翌日に中井ヲタに集中攻撃されたせい
     ▽北川は中井ヲタだった(にわり=中井ヲタの総称)
     https://i.imgur.com/Km8p4uf.jpg
     https://i.imgur.com/WRPt3vS.jpg
     ▽【悲報】山口真帆さん痩せ過ぎ
     https://rosie.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/akb/1545624273/
     
     ※事件翌日、山口さんが投稿したチームGの画像に中井りかがいないということで、中井ヲタたちが山口さんのツイ垢にしつこく攻撃して追い込んでいた
     ※画像は上のスレの中にあります
     https://i.imgur.com/S4zyMNG.jpg

    ・昨日 東京タワーで荻野由佳と中井りかが目撃される
     https://i.imgur.com/kCID4fn.jpg
     https://i.imgur.com/HfKxhjp.jpg

    ・荻野由佳がホリプロの幹部 西尾聖と一緒にDA PUMPのライブに行ったもよう
     https://i.imgur.com/yiKBReE.jpg
     https://i.imgur.com/t4jGBMK.jpg
     ▽入絵加奈子のブロミュ「DA PUMPの武道館コンサート」
     https://ameblo.jp/kyanako-i33to/entry-12480119147.html?adxarea=endBb

    ・今日の新潟日報「県民性まで疑われるとは」
     https://i.imgur.com/oySSe02.jpg

    ・NGT公式が劇場スケジュールを更新。特に何もないもよう
     https://i.imgur.com/bQZ4Oze.jpg
    240LillyRush :2019/06/15(土) 23:31:46
    ★6月15日(土)【追加】

    ・指原莉乃が高倉に会う
     https://i.imgur.com/d9DFfig.jpg
     https://i.imgur.com/o2DCgfJ.jpg
     https://i.imgur.com/4Y6Q0Vy.jpg

    ・5ch地下アイドル板の山口真帆事件スレが★1000を達成
     https://rosie.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/akb/1560572567/
     
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  19. EinhanderX

    EinhanderX Next Girls

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    Is this(member meeting with each other and going to live concert) on-topic in the assault thread?

    Because it feels like it can be trimmed or just left out altogether from the summary onward.
     
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  20. sscrla

    sscrla Stage48 Moderator Staff Member Stage48 Moderator

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    It's too late now, but Mariko-sama talked about what might have been.

    "I don't know what's going on, but if you have a lot of people, you can really get along with each other, but it's important to have a goal such as" Go to Tokyo Dome ". Besides, I think it may be an old way of thinking, but I think it would be better if there was a disliked teacher, and in our days there was a scary manager and saying "I don't like that person"

    https://hochi.news/articles/20190614-OHT1T50263.html

    I think uniting together to hate management could have been a better way.
     
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