Single Nogizaka46 13th (Ima, Hanashitai Dareka ga Iru) (15/10/28)

1st round HS application started, so as a result total HS block amount for the 13th single is out! There's some surprises, for me at least.

From left to right are: 13th single HS block total, 12th's total, changes, & name.

30 | 30 (+00) Nishino Nanase
30 | 30 (+00) Fukagawa Mai
30 | 30 (+00) Shiraishi Mai
30 | 30 (+00) Akimoto Manatsu
30 | 30 (+00) Hashimoto Nanami
30 | 30 (+00) Eto Misa
30 | 30 (+00) Ikuta Erika
30 | 30 (+00) Saito Asuka
30 | 30 (+00) Wakatsuki Yumi
30 | 30 (+00) Sakurai Reika
30 | 30 (+00) Matsumura Sayuri
30 | 30 (+00) Hoshino Minami

30 | 29 (+01) Ito Marika
30 | 28 (+02) Takayama Kazumi
26 | 22 (+04) Hori Miona
25 | 19 (+06) Inoue Sayuri
23 | 22 (+01) Nakamoto Himeka
21 | 20 (+01) Shinuchi Mai

19 | 22 (-03) Ikoma Rina
18 | 22 (-04) Saito Yuri
18 | 22 (-04) Nagashima Seira
18 | 22 (-04) Nakada Kana
18 | 16 (+02) Kitano Hinako
18 | 11 (+07) Terada Ranze
13 | 11 (+02) Higuchi Hina
12 | 10 (+02) Noujou Ami
12 | 00 (+12) Yamazaki Rena
11 | 06 (+05) Suzuki Ayane
10 | 14 (-04) Watanabe Miria

08 | 16 (-08) Sagara Iori
08 | 12 (-04) Sasaki Kotoko
07 | 11 (-04) Kawago Hina
07 | 06 (+01) Saito Chiharu
06 | 10 (-04) Ito Karin
06 | 08 (-02) Kawamura Mahiro
06 | 06 (+00) Ito Junna
05 | 06 (-01) Wada Maaya

735 / 731 (+04) Total

Edit: added graph

Spoiler

 

Himetan giwen now max 23 not 22... Well.... Let's see...

 

Marika, Sayu and Ranze Im happy for these girls. Omg Ikoma getting a drop in max blocks.

 

6=6 6-6=0?

 

Corrected thanks lol

 

As you wish...

 

hori +4 that way i dont like her out of senbatsu for 12th
ranze, hope shes entered senbatsu for 13th, like shitara said,"sometime shes like combination of ikuta and asuka"

 

Oh my, sorry... i must look star wars too much... Anyway... Are these ealier tells who are center?

 

Damn Iori. That push is flopping hard. Why tho? D-:>

Fuck yes to AmiAmi, Sayuranger, Hinahime, Ranze and Meru's girlfriend Miona.

Most surprising here is seeing Chiichan get an additional block. Perhaps she's one of those cases where her sales are spread out enough that her blocks don't sell out so it appears like she's doing worse than she actually is.

Not surprised Ikoma's blocks were lowered again, just surprised it didn't happen last time. I really wish we had more active members in this forum that attend handshake, I'd really like to know why Wada and Mahiro aren't popular in that arena.

As for the actual single, Taiyou Knock's senbatsu burned me to the point where I'm not even going to bother being optimistic here. I'm just going to hope for the bare minimum of positive happenings and anything else will just be a pleasant surprise.

 

? Himetan role wasn't so big at 12? Or something else what do that? Anyway I can see that Himetan giwe more couplings songs at 13. Back to senbatsu? Let's see.
But, are these ealier telling who center? I think no. We... Let's see.

 

i just hope in the end whatever the outcome is everyone will be ok with it

 

I'll throw in some thoughts on this too lol

30 | 28 (+02) Takayama Kazumi
I wonder will she remains fukujin lol, I do think mngmnt likes her a lot.

26 | 22 (+04) Hori Miona
She's very likely to return to senbatsu I think, unless they was her to stick around Unders a bit longer like minami?

23 | 22 (+01) Nakamoto Himeka
On himetan, actually I think there's a decent chance she'll return to senbatsu or at least centres Unders. Among those with 20 total blocks & above, she's the only one that haven't been back in senbatsu for a long while (not since 7th), so it'd make sense if she do. The complication is that just the members that have max total blocks amount to 14(!) members, assuming they all remains senbatsu & that Ikoma stays & miona returns, that's 16 spots alrdy. Assuming senbatsu's still sizing 18, that's only two spots to fight over.

19 | 22 (-03) Ikoma Rina
I'm quite surprised by this tbh, her sales for 12th was an improvement over her 11th's sales. It could mean her sales in other blocks are quite lacking? I would like to think she's not likely to centre cuz of this, but she was rewarded centre after the lackluster sales for 11th, so not keeping my hope up. She got one extra blocks over the 18 blocks group via the Nagoya event on 12.27, prolly cuz there'll be her birthday event lol.

18 | 11 (+07) Terada Ranze
I agree she's ether entering senbatsu or front of Unders comes next single.

08 | 16 (-08) Sagara Iori
Quite sad bout this tbh, iori's quite likable methink. I think the problem is that she have not been able to stand out so far, even tho most ppl have a good impression of her.

07 | 11 (-04) Kawago Hina
idgi lol


so senbatsu guess:
naa maimai maiyan mana nanamean senpai iku ashu tsuki kyappu sayurin minami marika Takayama Ikoma miona ranze hime.

fukujin composition is going to be mightily hard lol, all the members with 30 total blocks have good grounds to being one. misa rly should become one alrdy, & I would love to see ashu enters too. returning sayurin or minami or letting marika enters for first time sounds great too. an easy way is to just go with the top 10 sellers (naa maimai maiyan mana nanamean senpai iku ashu tsuki & kyappu), altho I won't keep my hope up lol

 

Eh, why they cut Ikoma's HS block? her sales improved so much right? That's surprise me. i always think that she's management golden child, so with more than triple improvement of her sales they will increase her block.

err, i imagine the composition of 13th single senbatsu is based on 12th single top HS seller with random center lol

 

Honestly at this point they have to start realizing that something is really really wrong with the 2nd gen. This in a group with only freaking 37 members!! How are they going to pull off another group on top of this?

 

Could you explain what you mean here?

 

I don't mean to say that there is something wrong with the girls, but that there is something seriously wrong in how management is pushing them.

It's been over 2 years since they debuted and they're still not catching on! All the 30/30 sellers are 1st gen - and 1st gen alone. In AKB, SKE, HKT and NMB we never had this situation - why is it that only Nogizaka has such a problem pushing their 2nd gen members?

 

Let's see. Pioychama: Money talking...

 

Oh ok. I think 2nd gen will take some more time. Horichan is getting there. Kiichan and Ranran are steadily climbing as well as Maichun. Mgmt is the enigma. I swear Misa Senpai should've been fukujin two singles ago.

 

Exactly. There should be more being done to help push 2nd gen (like even making a subunit?) but it seems like management just doesn't care.

Tbh, I think it's probably because management spent all their money boosting the girls' modeling careers - its kind of clear that Nogi is meant to be like AKB48 but for girls, hence the modeling push - so they don't know what to do to boost the 2nd gen for now.