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Single Nogizaka46 17th (Influencer) (17/03/22)

Discussion in 'Nogizaka46 News & Releases' started by ForrestFuller, Jan 23, 2017.

  1. kanjo

    kanjo Kenkyuusei Stage48 Donor

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    Centre and Fukujin conversation is for people pushing for a return to centre.
    By other indexes (Merchandise sales, KojinPV video views, twitter mentions) she's upper-unders level.
    They match up with HS quite well.
     
  2. Takoyama

    Takoyama Kenkyuusei

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  3. eternalord

    eternalord Kenkyuusei

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    Dayum, that place is so luxurious. I must go there too someday! :blush:
     
  4. ranze

    ranze Kenkyuusei

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    First everyone is like "Oh you don't need talents to be in Senbatsu. Same goes to Rotti".

    Now when you need to bash Ikoma you suddenly bring up the talent argument into this so you have something to hold against her.

    I think Ikoma is a great dancer. She is made for Seifuku no Mannequin. She looks gorgeous with her new hair and also looked really cool in Influencer and still does in Influencer live performances. Ikoma has a nice aura.

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  5. kanjo

    kanjo Kenkyuusei Stage48 Donor

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    Popularity is #1. Always will be always should be.
    If talent is enough to get fans you'll get popularity and the system works for you.
    If your talent doesn't get you fans, sorry, you need to be popular to be a senbatsu regular.
    Rottii isn't talented. Bottom 5 of the first two gens.

    That said I support giving her chances.
    Not just through senbatsu but subbing for senbatsu members and on TV shows.
    Give her chances to show her talent.

    Ikoma doesn't have exceptional popularity or any singing talent.
    Good dancer, yeah, but she's one of Nogi's worst singers and ruins every song she's prominent in.
    So I would say overall no talent.
    Her popularity/exposure ratio is terrible, though.
    All the wasted effort making her famous could have made other members superstars.
    I have nothing against her as a person but everything against the idea of her centring.
     
  6. eternalord

    eternalord Kenkyuusei

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    Alright, alright, some of you like Ikoma, some of you don't. The initial question about her HS state is answered, and I think it's clear already.
    Let's continue "should Ikoma center again" thread somewhere else.
     
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  7. aisukurimu99

    aisukurimu99 Kenkyuusei

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    To each his own, I guess. I personally find Ikoma's dancing awkward at times, especially when she's trying hard to make it look cool. I inwardly cringe whenever I see that particular part in their Mukuchi na Lion perfs, lol.

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  8. AloNeko

    AloNeko Kenkyuusei

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    Hmmm... How big think Babymetal was just time for Barrette? In Japan?
    Although I learned it little later...
    How first single girls are selected if there not HS or something else do that?

    And HS selling isn't key to S. Look example how little it was Himetan before... But Anyway...
    It's just too complicated think... Luck I not"tycoon" of that think...

    If feeling is right little less more... But... That week tells much... I think now sells numbers...
     
  9. norigiri

    norigiri Kenkyuusei

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    I'm putting my 2 cents in there. Every single thread it's the same. People arguing every time if Ikoma should be center again. Personally I would be very happy if she center a song again.:1st: Will I be sad if she not center a song again? NO, I won't :pbecause SHE is very happy to give her support to the center of every single.:D She hated it when she centered the first 5 singles and was very happy when she didn't became center in the 6th single and when she is happy with it I'm happy to. ;) I'm with @eternalord If people wants to talk about this situation they should make a new thread and talk it there. :hehe:
    I think management gave rottii in 2015 a lot of chances when she subbed the 11th and 12th single on TV shows for other members but for unknow reason fans didn't notice her and that makes me very sad. :cold:

    Now I want make a prediction for this single. I say and hoping it will sell 850k on the first week:worthy:
     
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  10. riduch

    riduch Kenkyuusei

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    in rotti's case, her looks, personality and miscelaneous (e.g. fishing) skills are not in her favor. take manatsu for example, she's famous with only her fishing skills. apparently rotti doesn't really have those 3 criteria.
    but of course there are some peculiarities. iori, karin and junna are stunningly pretty but also not famous, so I guess in the end it all depends on luck lol
     
  11. Blitzius

    Blitzius Kenkyuusei

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    i really want to see Fuusen live.
    I really hope they come out in suits and glasses.
    Chiharu looks absolutely stunning.

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  12. kanjo

    kanjo Kenkyuusei Stage48 Donor

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    Manatsu has variety and talk skills and other miscellaneous things which help self promotion that Rottii lacks.
     
  13. ranze

    ranze Kenkyuusei

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    Hinachima and Ranze seem to be drowing in Influencer MV and live performances. Yuttan too. Maichun also appears here and there. In my opinion the senbatsu is way too big.
     
  14. Obelovic

    Obelovic Kenkyuusei

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    In short, IMHO, Manatsu is an entertainer. She knows what pleases her fans and does her best to satisfy them. Rotti doesn't seem to have such skill. As far as vocals go, Rotti might be a much better artist. But idol world needs more than that.
     
  15. SilentBreeze

    SilentBreeze Kenkyuusei

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    now this kind of conversation made me remember that manatsu ever said that she want to be REACTION IDOL

    so with that ->
    she must be good at entertaining something.

    am i right??
    i hope so :)

    -cheers :D
     
  16. NyanNyan's Pet

    NyanNyan's Pet Kenkyuusei

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    Manattan is an idol, Rotti, great singer, great dancer, imho prettier than some members, being an idol....not much
    So, anybody made the thread already? It's gonna be a lively one :D
     
  17. eternalord

    eternalord Kenkyuusei

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    Okay, let's get back on track. Behold the pic spam I will post.

    Influencer on Shibuya Tsutaya

    Influencer on Shinseido Quartier 5 Kashiwa
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    I like the new uniform. White, a new clean slate.
     
  18. Blitzius

    Blitzius Kenkyuusei

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    oh god, Saitou Yuuri in shorts. Shinuchi and Inoue in pants.
    I have never wanted anything more.

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  19. NyanNyan's Pet

    NyanNyan's Pet Kenkyuusei

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    Oh boy Misa :inlove: My my,Yumi :blush: Don't do that Hina :p
    But Ringo :yikes:
    I also love the white uniform, simple and really looks clean.
    3rd Gen looks amazing btw :approve::approve::approve:
    Thank you for sharing...
     
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  20. Obelovic

    Obelovic Kenkyuusei

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    OMG! Look at them. Gorgeous, all of them...

    I like the new uniform, it has somewhat Keya-feel to it. This single is indeed epic. I hope they'll sell really well.
     

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