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Single Nogizaka46 18th (Nigemizu) (17/08/09)

Discussion in 'Nogizaka46 News & Releases' started by ForrestFuller, Jun 25, 2017.

  1. baymon

    baymon Kenkyuusei

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    Join the club to rank the songs.
    1. Onna wa Hitori ja Nemurenai
    2. Hito Natsu no Nagasa Yori
    3. Naitatte Iijanai ka?
    4. Nigemizu
    5. Under
    6. Mirai no Kotae
    7. Live Shin

    Overall not fond of this single. Except for #1 and #2, the rest just don't work with me.
     
  2. MadBunny

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    Nogizaka46's 18th Single (Nigemizu) (3rd Day Sales)
    Day 3: 36,247 (1st)
    Total Sales: 826,708
     
  3. Takoyama

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    ^Decent numbers for today
     
  4. baymon

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    Great. So by the 3rd day it has catched up with Influencer. It might be able to surpass Influencer 1st week, finger crossed.
     
  5. tiktok

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    Taiyou Knock helped by 7-eleven limited edition which contain a song with MV (Hane no Kioku, great song and stunning MV). I think that kind of miracle wont happen this time. But I'm quite confident with first week mark. Not big jump, but little increase sound plausible.

    I'm more concern to Nigemizu's longevity. Summer single have this issue except Girls Rule and may be Hadashi. I hope WW's hype boost after first week's sales.
     
  6. Obelovic

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    Finally out in my local iTunes and Spotify, so I can listen to the high quality versions. This single is quite senbatsu-oriented, by which I mean that there are so many songs by the senbatsu and no special unit songs.
     
  7. Konno A.

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    Under is by far one of my fav Nogi songs ever. It's truly fantastic. Loved that wonder-woman song too. The rest were meh to. But damn Under is too good.
     
  8. ryandtw

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    Influencer after three days: 826,626

    Looks like we closed the gap! (by 82 :D)

    Let's see if we can keep going on a roll throughout the (three-day) weekend!
     
  9. Obelovic

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    After listening to the high-quality versions, I think that my current ranking of the songs are:

    1. Hito Natsu no Nagasa Yori (should've been the A-side!)
    2. (tie) Nigemizu (still couldn't go over the pauses when not watching the MV)
    2. (tie) Mirai no Kotae (another simple, cheerful summer song)
    3. Under (I thought this one will be higher on my list. But I think it kind of lost its impact somehow without the MV).
    4. Naitatte Iijanaika (catchy little song)
    5. Onna wa Hitori ja Nemurenai (basically a good song, although my first few listens give me an impression that there's something missing)
    6. Live Shin (sounds kinda OK when watching the MV, but totally messy without it)

    Still putting the songs on repeat, might change how I feel about them in the future.
     
  10. MadBunny

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    Nogizaka46's 18th Single (Nigemizu) (4th Day Sales)
    Day 4: 26,115 (1st)
    Total Sales: 852,823
     
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  11. Seditious85

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    I've been listening to the songs from the single for more than a week now, so time to give my opinion!

    Nigemizu
    I was quite surprised the first time I heard the HQ version through my headphones. The song contains many subtle details, a nice beat, and a great bassline. Quite the difference from the first impression, which was the live show at Ongaku no Hi. Back then, I wrote it off as a Skydiving 2.0 - the slightly less boring version. Fortunately, that isn't the case. As for the Claire de Lune part, I am not pro or anti. I guess it fits the concept. As a summer song though, I am somewhat disappointed. Although I applaud the fact they went with something different this time, I miss the in-your-face approach of Hadashi de Summer or the feel-good vibe of Girls' Rule.

    Onna wa Hitori ja Nemurenai
    A superhero-themed song done right. It has an epic feel to it, without overdoing it. I love the punchy palm-muted riffs during the verses and the guitar solo is cool. I want to mention the drums as well. The way they build up suspense with just the kicks, and the creative fills towards the end of the song, it all feels good. The vocals work best in the more quieter parts of the song.

    Naitatte Iijanaika?
    The hardest song to grasp somehow. The chorus is fine and delivers with its soothing vocals. The rest of the song though...it misses something. I am not a fan of the fast singing in the verses. The bridge is nice, but too short and therefore hard to notice.

    Hito Natsu no Nagasa Yori...
    I fell in love with this song instantly when I heard it live. Hearing the single version made it even better. It's a rich and dynamic song. The chorus is amazing and catchy as f*ck, but the other parts of the song have their own qualities as well. There is this delightful bassline that pops up every now and then, a nice duel between acoustic and electric guitars during the bridge, and the vocals are spot on during the entire song.

    Under
    The absolute highlight of the single. The Under songs from Influencer and the 3rd album didn't do it for me. I am a fan of the dramatic approach of songs like Shitto no Kenri and Futougou, and while this song is not that good, I am glad they went that way again. The feels hit you from the start and from then, the song manages to meander between hope and despair flawlessly. The vocals are goosebump-inducing as well. They sure picked the right members for the right lines.

    Live Shin
    A very nice tune. Stylistically, it bears some resemblance with Mangetsu ga kieta, but this time done right. It has a nice pace and progression, and the autotuning is on a more acceptable level. Best part is the heavy middle part, with the crunchy low-pitched guitar synths. Only thing I don't like is the voice constantly saying "peace" in my left ear. And I wonder why this was chosen as the song for 2nd gen. I think it would have fitted better for a subunit.

    Mirai no Kotae
    Decent song, but falls short when compared to the godlike Sanbanme or the uplifting Omoide First. But those songs are hard to top anyway. I like how this song also has this distinctive 3rd gen sound, especially vocalwise. It just isn't a very exciting song, without a real surprise or climax.


    Overall, I think this single is a solid release. Is it better than Influencer? Hard to say. Influencer had more highs and lows, while Nigemizu's quality is more balanced. Although this single doesn't contain an all-time classic, I am satisfied.
     
  12. ryandtw

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    900k possible or something?
     
  13. kanjo

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    Week 1? Nah, probably around 880. Unless there's a miracle.
     
  14. satoshiash

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    Day 5: 15,728
    Total: 868,551

    Please please please! 880k for the week!
     
  15. kanjo

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    So they dropped a bit on Tuesday but had the best historical sales for Thurs, Fri and Sat with 2nd best on Wednesday only behind whatever madness happened for Harujion.

    So much for "bad centres" and "stupid pauses".
    [hehe]
     
  16. Maiyang

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    Tender days... Tender days... Keep this spirit isnt the first time .... make this learning. Mgmnt should be careful in experimenting for the next single.
     
  17. RedBug

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    How many was Influencer's first week? I can't find it in wiki.
     
  18. kanjo

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  20. satoshiash

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    800k is a great feat. Usually they get these steady sale lineups and then bam new record sale! Hoping for 900k for their next single.

    Experiments aren't that bad at least the management knows what to do next. :)
     

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