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Single Nogizaka46 22nd [Kaerimichi wa Toomawari Shitaku Naru] (2018/11/14)

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  1. Seditious85

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    I think it got pretty mediocre with the 18th uniform, with the 21st as the least in their entire history. But this uniform makes me forget that easily.
     
  2. Fab-Nogi46

    Fab-Nogi46 Rank 81-100 (Temporary Name)

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    Good for Junna,
    I hope she will be more popular in the future
    Maybe in a senbatsu next year
     
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  3. ForrestFuller

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    Week 5:
    10,616 (1,171,400) (13th)
     
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  4. EinhanderX

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    Nogizaka46's 22nd Single ("Kaerimichi wa Tōmawari Shitaku Naru") 11th round HS results
    rank. (prev. rank.) sold slots/total slots (+change) member name (sold out status)
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    01. (01.) 30/30 (+00) Kubo Shiori (2nd round sold out!)
    01. (01.) 30/30 (+00) Yamashita Mizuki (2nd round sold out!)
    01. (01.) 30/30 (+00) Yoda Yuki (2nd round sold out!)
    04. (04.) 30/30 (+00) Ozono Momoko (3rd round sold out!)
    04. (04.) 30/30 (+00) Hori Miona (3rd round sold out!)
    04. (04.) 30/30 (+00) Hoshino Minami (3rd round sold out!)
    04. (04.) 30/30 (+00) Shinuchi Mai (3rd round sold out!)
    08. (08.) 30/30 (+00) Ito Riria (4th round sold out!)
    08. (08.) 30/30 (+00) Higuchi Hina (4th round sold out!)
    08. (08.) 30/30 (+00) Sato Kaede (4th round sold out!)
    11. (11.) 30/30 (+00) Saito Yuri (5th round sold out!)
    11. (11.) 30/30 (+00) Iwamoto Renka (5th round sold out!)
    11. (11.) 30/30 (+00) Watanabe Miria (5th round sold out!)
    14. (14.) 30/30 (+00) Yamazaki Rena (6th round sold out!)
    15. (15.) 30/30 (+00) Sakaguchi Tamami (7th round sold out!)
    16. (16.) 30/30 (+01) Nakada Kana (11th round sold out!)(*)
    17. (17.) 25/25 (+00) Saito Asuka (2nd round sold out!)
    17. (17.) 25/25 (+00) Umezawa Minami (2nd round sold out!)
    19. (19.) 25/25 (+00) Inoue Sayuri (3rd round sold out!)
    19. (19.) 25/25 (+00) Suzuki Ayane (3rd round sold out!)
    21. (21.) 25/25 (+00) Terada Ranze (4th round sold out!)
    22. (22.) 25/30 (+00) Mukai Hazuki
    23. (23.) 17/25 (+02) Ito Junna
    24. (24.) 13/25 (+00) Nakamura Reno
    25. (25.) 09/30 (+00) Yoshida Ayano Christie
    26. (26.) 04/15 (+01) Sasaki Kotoko
    27. (26.) 03/30 (+00) Ito Karin
    00. (00.) 00/10 (+00) Wada Maaya
    Total: 676/770 (+4 since 10th round) [87.8%]
    1st Gen: 170/180 (+1) [94.4%]
    2nd Gen: 194/240 (+3) [80.8%]
    3rd Gen: 312/350 (+0) [89.1%]
    667/813 (+9) last single (increase/decrease over 21st single 11th round)

    (*): As the window to apply for January venue is closed with this round, Nakada Kana is the last Sold-out member from this single IHS/Kobetsu. The rest of available member are still open to apply for February and March venue until further notice.
     
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  5. windakhaty

    windakhaty Kenkyuusei

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    I wondering who will take nishino center position for this single after her graduation. I know most of people said it will be yoda but somehow itu can be another member too.

    Maybe yoda will take some not all of nishino center single. Like how Asuka just took Seifuku and oide Shampoo center position after Ikoma graduated.

    Somehow after I saw their latest performance i have though Takayama who will take the center position for this single.

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    My money is on Asuka. Asuka will take over everyone’s center.
     
  7. windakhaty

    windakhaty Kenkyuusei

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    I want to say the same think too but i'm scare it will make some fans of other members dissapointed and it will make Asuka in uncomfortable situation. I don't want she will get hate coz management choose her rather than other members. And if it happening i Will always support her...

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  8. Endorsi

    Endorsi Kenkyuusei

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    Or management might get complicit and callously drop a 4th gen as a center
     
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  9. windakhaty

    windakhaty Kenkyuusei

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    I think this option can be happening too but itu maybe low.

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  10. sambelteri12

    sambelteri12 Rank 81-100 (Temporary Name)

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    Give it to Ranze, she's not part of senbatsu for this single.
     
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  11. CrssA

    CrssA Rank 81-100 (Temporary Name)

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    Nanase 3 WCenter more likely going to be solo center imo. they can fix the choreography a little bit if they need to , and let her pair be the solo center ( maiyan , ashu ).

    Ashu is a great center , both of her summer song is very enjoyable to see. and due to historical reason + how she perform it i also like her ver of sayonara no imi.

    but im agree with not to throw everything to her. unfortunately her seifuku no mannequin in last waka ceremony is disaster. idk she’s probably not enjoy it or what , but for me she looked so dead there.

    although safe choice will be ashu + yoda obviously.

    but my personal opinion will be

    kidzuitara : yoda
    natsu no free & easy : zukki
    inochii wa utsukushi : miona / ashu
    ima hanashi : maiyan / maiyan x kubo
    influencer : maiyan / maiyan x ashu
    itsuka dekiru : ashu / ashu x miona ; ashu x yoda
    kaerimichi : N/A
     
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  12. ForrestFuller

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    Week 6:
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  13. windakhaty

    windakhaty Kenkyuusei

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    The responsibility to take the graduated center position it's surely big. The new center will always under the original center shadow. The fans will started to comparing them and it's surely give a lot of pressure to the new center.

    Asuka must be feel the pressure. The first time i saw her being Seifuku center she look so great. Sayonara no Imi is the best too, i feel like the management did a great job to chosed Asuka to replace nanamin as the center for Sayonara no Imi.

    It will be great if the W center single become solo center. I think it's the best idea.

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  14. NyanNyan's Pet

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    well of course giving it all to asuka will be a big mistake. i don't think that will happen. but i bet she still gets plenty of them.
    making w-center all solo is a good idea but it can easily be paired with other girls.
    i know the flow of conversation is about nanase's center position, but i'm just gonna put the rest and some of my wish for center
    • the first 5 single can easily be w-center
    • girl's rule - same
    • barrette - same
    • kidzuitara - took a long while for me to pick but maiyan is the obvious choice since she and hashimoto are the ones beside nanase
    • free&easy - yoda or momoko or even ikuta (and it's not because she's my oshi)
    • nandome - same
    • inochi - asuka or momoko
    • taiyou -sakurai (need to have that ikoma scream at the beginning of the song and captain should do the honor)
    • ima - maiyan solo or w-center with momoko
    • harujion - umezawa or yamashita or hori
    • hadashi - same
    • sayonara - asuka
    • influencer - maiyan solo or w-center with asuka
    • nigemizu - same
    • itsuka - asuka x yoda
    • synchronicity - same
    • jikochuu - same
    • kaerimichi - yoda (after nanase finally leaves the group)
     
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  15. windakhaty

    windakhaty Kenkyuusei

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    I almost agree with the list you gave but some not.

    Kidzuitara maybe will fall to yoda hands.

    I think the best w center for Ima to company maiyan is Kubo. I feel like Kubo have the same vibe with nishino for this song.

    And for kaerimichi like what i said before maybe it's Takayama. My reasoning is after wakatsuki graduated Akimoto who took her position in the circle move dance to accompany nishino but in cdtv performance nishino took Akimoto position and Takayama at Nishino position for that move.

    So i think maybe just maybe Takayama will be the one for this single but who knows.

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  16. sambelteri12

    sambelteri12 Rank 81-100 (Temporary Name)

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    Not Kaz please. Just give her her own A-side center and leave Nishino's A-side center to the younger ones.
     
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  17. CrssA

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    thats true ,

    i do think we had too many popular members atm rn , its a little bit unfortunate fact that there will be some members graduating without a signature songs attached to her. last time waka graduating without any songs rly attached to her imho. dankeschon was ok but not rly was her , ikuchan was the center and just waka had her famous line at the end of the song.

    there goes kaz too , i wouldn’t against if she got 1 a-side before she left later , we got 3 singles in a year. theres around 8~9 perma senbatsu from nogi without a-side center , if i need to pick 2 or 3 from them who i think should got a graduation a-side center , kaz was obviously included
     
  18. NyanNyan's Pet

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    That's why I really had a hard time thinking about Kidzuitara. I just felt it should go to a prominent 1st gen considering it's Nishino's 1st center.
    Then I'm hesitant to put Kubo in any (even though she's my 3rd gen oshi). Except maybe for Nandome. And we still have Ikuta.
    Momoko's overflowing love for Maiyan made me think two of them together would look nice.
    I was thinking about Kaz a lot. But I feel the same that she needs her own a-side. I do want her to center when her graduation comes.
     
  19. Seditious85

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    I hope they spread the center positions as much as possible. This has a lot of advantages:

    - Many members get to experience the center position, even if they didn't center the song originally. It might even get some of them ready for a future center position or another form of promotion.
    - It doesn't become too much too handle for a certain member, since the load is balanced. This is especially true for live shows, etc.
    - It prevents overexposure / fatique of a certain member for both fans and the general public.

    I would even prefer they implement a rotational system, but I realize that is too progressive.

    If I had any say in the matter, I would divide Naachan's center position like this:

    Kizuitara - Momoko
    Free&Easy - Umezawa
    Inochi - Manatsu
    Imahana - Kazumin (with Maiyan)
    Influencer - Asuka (with Maiyan)
    Itsuka - Miona (with Asuka)
    Kaerimichi - Yoda
     
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  20. sambelteri12

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    And she want too! She said herself that before graduated it'll be nice if she can centering a single and get her own solo cover [hehe]
     

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