Single Nogizaka46 24th [Yoakemade Tsuyogaranakutemoii] (2019/09/04)

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  1. Seditious85

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    The 4th gen song is nice to watch, everyone looks very good. With glasses even more. The director also found a clever way to include some one eye shots (not really a fan of that). The song itself is a bit disappointing. I did like the preview, but I hoped it would be more than just repeating that preview three times and call it a day.

    The Under MV is visually pleasing, were it not for the editing. It's too quick! You hardly get the chance to see what or who is on screen. "Look, it's Chima, let's see her dance... oh wait never mind, there's Ranze, her visual expression is... I don't know because there is the next shot already."
    I think I need to rewatch this one at half speed.
     
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  2. NyanNyan's Pet

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    Very happy for Renka. Not so much I can say about the song. I can't figure it out, yet. And a very forgetful MV. There's just nothing there.

    Anyway, seems like they're really grooming Renka, I won't be surprised if she return to Senbatsu next single. And I don't even think fortune telling has anything to do with it.

    Toshoshitsu no Kimi e is 4th gen's best song so far. But the MV is too cutesy for my taste. It's not bad though. Just the generic MV expected from any younger gen.

    Guess it's a wrap. Bokuno Omoikomi is my favorite followed by Tokidoki Omoidashite Kudasai, which is also my favorite MV. A fitting farewell for our dear captain. Then there's Boku no Koto, Shitteru? For the rest except for the title track, in a year I might not even remember they had those songs.
     
  3. tpt13

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    Uhm, interesting. I am unaware of that. Although when I said 3 more years, I was thinking that Asuka had her breakthrough when she was 18 so I would expect Renka to be the same. Seem like the management is thinking like that too. And if we consider those fortune telling as a way for management to drop some “easter eggs” (like how Hinata’s Nao Kosaka was told there was some surprise awaiting for her and the very next month she got her center single) then they may have big plan for Renka.
    Romendensha kinda reminds me of AKB’s 365nichi. They both give off somewhat similar vibes and both are way better than the A-side songs. It would make a perfect theme song for either a movie, a TV serie or an anime.
     
  4. Britney M. Carey

    Britney M. Carey Kenkyuusei

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    Romendensha no Machi sounds so soothing and relaxing to the soul
     
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  5. EinhanderX

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    Should have been yesterday...:^^;:
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    Nogizaka46's 24th Single ("Yoake made Tsuyogaranakute mo Ii") 4th round HS results
    rank. (prev. rank.) sold slots/total slots (+change) member name (sold out status)
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    01. (01.) 30/30 (+00) Umezawa Minami (2nd round sold out!)
    01. (01.) 30/30 (+00) Yamashita Mizuki (2nd round sold out!)
    01. (01.) 30/30 (+00) Yoda Yuki (2nd round sold out!)
    01. (01.) 21/21 (+00) Kubo Shiori (2nd round sold out!)
    01. (01.) 05/05 (+00) Hori Miona (2nd round sold out!)
    06. (06.) 30/30 (+00) Shinuchi Mai (3rd round sold out!)
    07. (08.) 30/30 (+05) Watanabe Miria (4th round sold out!)
    07. (08.) 30/30 (+05) Iwamoto Renka (4th round sold out!)
    07. (10.) 30/30 (+06) Kaki Haruka (4th round sold out!)
    07. (10.) 30/30 (+06) Endou Sakura (4th round sold out!)
    07. (10.) 30/30 (+06) Kakehashi Sayaka (4th round sold out!)
    07. (10.) 30/30 (+06) Tsutsui Ayame (4th round sold out!)
    07. (17.) 25/25 (+05) Tamura Mayu (4th round sold out!)
    14. (07.) 29/30 (+03) Kitano Hinako
    14. (10.) 29/30 (+05) Terada Ranze
    16. (16.) 26/30 (+04) Suzuki Ayane
    17. (15.) 24/30 (+01) Kanagawa Saya (+6 slot next round)
    18. (22.) 22/30 (+11) Sato Kaede
    18. (17.) 22/24 (+02) Seimiya Rei
    18. (19.) 22/24 (+05) Shibata Yuna
    21. (20.) 17/20 (+01) Hayakawa Seira
    21. (21.) 17/20 (+02) Higuchi Hina
    23. (00.) 15/24 (+15) Yakubo Mio
    24. (00.) 10/30 (+10) Ito Riria
    25. (23.) 09/30 (+06) Sakaguchi Tamami
    26. (00.) 01/30 (+01) Yamazaki Rena
    26. (00.) 01/17 (+01) Kitagawa Yuri
    00. (00.) 00/30 (+00) Nakada Kana
    00. (00.) 00/30 (+00) Yoshida Ayano Christie
    00. (00.) 00/25 (+00) Ito Junna
    00. (00.) 00/20 (+00) Mukai Hazuki
    00. (00.) 00/15 (+00) Wada Maaya
    00. (00.) 00/15 (+00) Sasaki Kotoko
    00. (00.) 00/15 (+00) Nakamura Reno
    Total: 595/870 (+106 since 3rd round) [68.4%]
    1st Gen: 17/65 (+2) [26.2%]
    2nd Gen: 150/225 (+18) [66.7%]
    3rd Gen: 182/296 (+32) [61.5%]
    4th Gen: 246/284 (+54) [86.6%]
    625/895 (- 30) last single (increase/decrease over 23rd single 4th round)
     
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  6. vshav

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    To be honest for as long as I have been Nogi fans, this single is the weakest among them (or to be exact my least favorite). If I can put it in one word, it's like this single's concept is "experimental".

    The melody in Yoake is unlike any other Nogi's A-side single. It doesn't feel as much as "elegant" pop-ish like what they used to have. (God I don't have much vocab to illustrate things). Yoake is almost like a college art project, in terms of song, dance, and MV. Instead as a song that can stand on its own (like let's say Sing Out or Influencer), Yoake suits as background soundtrack or an ending song for TV programme better.

    That under's song is... something. It's even much more unlike any other Under's song. Listening to it I keep saying, when is this song going to end? Why the structure is so weird. By the time I thought the song is finished it's started again from the top. Almost making like this is a 1.5 song. The dance too.. the first pose they do is like someone holding their cheek because of having toothache? Some part of the dance is fun to watch (Tamami looks awesome). The girls look like they are enjoying it too. Renka looks gorgeous alright. We have predicted this since back then, she will hold Nogi's reputation under her wing. In summary, I might eventually grown on me but if it's not because this song is by Nogi, I don't think I'd give this song a second chance.

    The 4th gen song, I quite like it just because of the MV. The girls are so lively, they are so anime-like! Other than that I don't care much for the song. The rap part reminds me of Keyaki's Sekai Ai. Even the Under song has the undertone of Keyaki's song. And I don't know what to make out of it, I guess I don't quite like these experimental songs are merging the sister's groups sound into them.

    Reika's song is my favourite. And really, she can sing! Why isn't she got solo song more often?

    p.s.
    I think Renka will take the role of Maiyan should Maiyan graduates. She will be the power beauty who can do everything perfectly.
     
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  7. Heelo

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    I still haven't heard Yoakemade Tsuyogaranakutemoii, but I thought Do my best was very catchy, and Iwamoto Renka makes a very good center.
     
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  8. sakusakukamen

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    Under's song & MV are cool. But l
    always only the centre gets the screentime, we can't clearly see othergirls.
     
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  9. baymon

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    What makes Do My Best a good song to me is the fact that it has slightly unusual structure. It doesn't get boring till the end, in fact when it ends it feels like the song is a bit too short. Unlike some other songs who seems to repeat the same thing over and over again.
     
  10. ajma93632

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    I guess the 2nd gen are finally having their moment, I can tell there's now a group of popular members within the gen, and It's most of them. I'm happy for them. I hope we get to see 6 of them in senbatsu soon.
     
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  11. Aas

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    Happy to see Miria, Ranze and Ayane
     
  12. hiraganatwice

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    That’s a fantasy my love. Yoda has always been popular way before her pushing started so let’s not. Mizuki is like a Sayurin/Manatsu 2.0 but not funny at all or as charismatic. It’s just clever fishing.

    Absolutely love the 4ki mv and the song has grown on me. Everyone seems to be underestimating these girls but they truly are a force. Stage has an obvious bias for 3ki so I’m not surprised. Unders mv was well nice. Like nothing amazing just nice. I think it’s a massive reach to call Renka the future Asuka. Ashu was constantly growing with her HS results while Renka is underperforming. Nor does she have the presence Ashu has.

    The comparisons between 3ki top 3 and 1ki top 3 is unwarranted. Mizuki does not share any similarities with Maiyan. I get Kubo and Yoda but it’s still too much.
     
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  13. gish0046

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    I'm bookmarking this post so I can come back to it when Mizuki becomes center before Yoda.
     
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  14. vshav

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    Seira looks so beautiul in the 4th gen MV. She danced really well too. Her poses is almost ballerina-like! Did she do ballet before? This time her resembling Iori is so uncanny. I hope she gets a solid fanbase really. She seems like someone who'd left behind. It's strange in Nogi that the obviously beautiful and talented ones can still get behind (e.g. Junna, Chiharu)

    The uniforms in 4th gen MV is so cuteee! Each of them has Nogi emblem too!

    Did Nogi designers get so hungry finally they got to design school uniforms again and then make 11 different sets at once?? [hehe]
     
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  15. Halyup

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    I'm bookmarking both of your post when neither Yoda and Mizuki get solo centre while another 3ki gets it ehem (KBS)
     
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  16. NyanNyan's Pet

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    That's her featured talent during their Kojichu intro. She's getting there.
    You mean first solo center right? Since we cannot ignore the fact Yoda was W'center with Momoko. Never missed a single, always in front until this one. So Yoda still has the slim advantage but we'll see in the coming singles. Everything seems effortless with Yoda but changes are happening already. Perhaps a stronger competition for any 3rd gen with the arrival of 4th gen. I mean they've already lost to Sakura if we talk about center position :lol:
     
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    15 years if i'm not mistaken.
     
  18. baymon

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    How is Renka's HS underperformed when she sold out all 30 slots at 4th round? This is the fastest she gets compared to any previous single. She is growing at HS, but her time has yet to come. She is still the 6th among 3ki but she is catching up.
    And regarding presence, I think that's subjective. I can't say Ashu has an immense presence as well, she is just alright. IMO, Renka has more stage presence than some other 3ki, e.g. Yoda and she is a good dancer.
     
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  19. hiraganatwice

    hiraganatwice Kenkyuusei

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    I stand by what I said. Amongst all of current nogi Renka really doesn’t stand out so I don’t know where this future ace talk is coming from. That fortune telling is absolute bull. I’m sorry you think management are gonna put Renka above 3ki top 3 and the promising 4ki top 5 in the future? Okay love
     
  20. Halyup

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    - why are you downplaying Renka while hyping 4ki at the same time?
    - in this Single; Renka sellout 30 slots in the 4th rd - same pace as the 4thgen trio
    - Renka is top 6th in 3ki ; there are 5 3ki above her in the pecking order
    - Renka is still 2nd youngest in Nogi ; Time is at her advantage
    - Riria is the underperforming 3ki not Renka .
     
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