Single Nogizaka46 39th [Same numbers] (2025/07/30)

New uniform, yey!



Now even the new kids are wearing the same

 

I believe when popularity is questioned, it's about popularity with the general public and not about popularity in the fandom. There is a drop in the general public recognition from 1-2-3ki aces to the recent gen aces. That's why it's always pointed out that Nogizaka has a problem.

 

They should have totally put SakuMiku as a Wcenter. Saw a tweet who was like if Akip was still in charge he would have choose Madura Mirine as the center and it would have been so fun.

looks like they finally gave up on that arunagi thing, navel orange results were really disappointing with all the promos they did. Still don’t know what they’re doing with Tesera, why is

 

I believe it's about Nikkei Talent Power Ranking (Female Idol) and outside job.
This year result minus 3rd generation (Yoda, Ume, Kubo):
1. Make it to Top 20: Nagi (6) - Endo (11) - Ayame (13) - Mao (14) - Yumiki (16) - Kawasaki (19) - Satsuki (20)

Spoiler: Last year Ranking

Endo (18) - Nagi (21) - Satsuki (32) - Ayame (33)
I believe last year Miku ranked around Shokichi and Ayamen (thanks to THE TIME) but I can't find the correct number.

2. Public Recognition:
Nagi > Endo >> Mao = Yumiki > Ayame > Satsuki = Kawasaki = Aruno > Miku = Saya > Kaki = Teresa >> Aya

Since this ranking it's all about outside jobs (how public recognise the idol), Kaki has never made it to Top 20. Endo stepped in for the 1st time in 2022 if I'm not wrong. Most of the Nogi girls on the list have/had model contract/regular TV show/drama role.
Another note, an idol will be put out from the ranking after graduation. For example, Yamashita Mizuki was #2 in 2024 but not in this year Top 20.

 

Subjectively, considering chemistry/connection at grouping or pairing

• There is timing and expectations, so they can promote Sakutan and Mikyun. Pairing them at the front cause they have good chemistry.
• There is one condition and also brave decision. Making Ensaku at 2nd row while Kakki become center, that because there is no pairing as Yoda out. Put Aruno and Nagi that Ensaku has good chemistry with.
• There is still no chance yet and remain. Definitely, Iokikki deserve a front member position even for once. I think there is no pairing her at the front right now or mngemnt doesnt know how to put it.
• Honestly, i dont know what kind of summer's song this time with only three front members. Maybe, will be the first cute summer song

 

In the latest Nikkei talent power ranking Nagi ranks highest among the active members, Kaki isn't listed. She is on the bigger chart among other members, but I think if all Nogis were included she would be ranked behind Ichinose as well.

 

I think Teresa will become one of these members who is popular enough to be in Fukujin but it is not considered as center. Maybe she will center once and that´s it, I don´t think management sees her as ace material.

Honestly I think they missed the timing with Ayamen. If they wanted her as center, they should have pushed her a while ago. Now with 5ki dominating senbatsu and the possibility of 6ki in senbatsu next single, it´s too late for her. Outside of KakkiSaku, there are zero chances of center between 4kis.

I´m personally more worried about 4.5ki. If even Runa got out in this senbatsu, then Miyu, Kuromi and Rika chances are zero.

 

I've just posted to the General thread some new CMs for an app called SmartNews but there's mention in an Oricon News article that the music used is apparently Nogizaka46's new song 'Manatsubiyo':
https://www.oricon.co.jp/news/2391000/full/

I can't see any mention of the title in posts in this thread so is it part of the new single? The song can only be heard very briefly in the CMs but I'll post them again here (my other post includes interviews and making videos):


if the video does not show watch the video here

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Never read about it but the trend analytics can show current popularity of most idols. Because idols is something like make people addicted, so if they have lot of fans, people will search them every once in a while to get updates online, talk about it, etc. And idols with jobs will have article posted about her. If u have SEO engines, you can get the graphic. Like when popularity of a group / song skyrocketed and then plumped within months. Usually it really depicts the reality.

one point I see is, nogizaka is soaring higher again while sakurazaka hype is going stagnant or even down slightly this 2025. Let's see if it will reflected on sales. The graphs looks similar when techizaka almost overthrown nogi popularity, but before reaching that, suddenly falling down... I don't know what happened since I don't follow keyaki lol

Different case when nogizaka successfully overthrown akb hype within the internet, currently the gap between nogi and saku is getting wider, when 2024 it gets so close. I don't get Nagi's appeal, but her popularity is very high lately... double than previous year.

among 5 ki, the members that get discussed more on internet is nagi, mao, teresa, aruno, and sakura

of course when seeing the graph need to take into account the fact that "older" idols will get discussed less while still being famous, and taking out hype from scandal. When idols gets a news about dating, it always sky rocketed. What funny about popularity is, they need just one "breakthrough", and suddenly the graph will fly to the sky

 

I disagree, the one who always going viral among non fans in 5ki is definitely Miku. Just this month, she had 5 hit tweet. She’s a type of idols that whatever she wears it’s always going viral. Then she’s followed by Sakura.

Nagi stays the most popular but she’s less viral.

Both Teresa and Aruno are mostly fandom oriented. They may be popular among the fandoms but I rarely see an interest for any of those two among non fans.

‘So yeah I would say, Nagi, Miku, Saku and Satsuki are def the most popular. But Aya drama is a big hit so she may surprise us this year.

 

Based on what? I never seen miku hit tweet. She never trending on my X...
The popularity between the members are not so much different, except two members: mao and nagi.

 

Nikkei Talent power ranking is one of the most popular and accurate ranking when it's come to public popularity. You've never heard about it but you doubt Miku's popularity just because you don't see her viral tweet.
For example a Miku's hit tweet: Link
I agree with @nigemizu that Nagi, Miku, Saku, Satsuki (and Mao) are the most popular 5ki outside the fandom.

• Nothing to say more about Nagi (center, non-no regular, model jobs, drama main role) and don't forget her Taigai drama next year
• Miku got THE TIME and also a (semi)-regular model for ar
• Satsuki got Love It! and vice-captain
• Saku got model jobs (sadly not regular contract yet) and her fashion sense also went viral easily
• Mao is also on the rise this year with the photobook and her drama main role.

 

News on the single... https://www.nogizaka46.com/s/n46/news/detail/101124?ima=1628&pri1=202506

Really it's news on the coupling song, Manatsubiyo (真夏日よ), used in the commercial. It is to commemorate Nogi's 10th performance at Jingu. I guess they'll be singing that one in September at Jingu...

 

I know what nikkei is. Lol. What I mean is that I never heard the 2025 version. (The latest one) since popularity always changing. Maiyan used to be on the top in her prime.

Yes, I doubt Miku's popularity because the data said so. in X, her graph is among top 4,(from 2024 to 2025) but on google she isn't. Nevertheless the graph between miku, sakura, satsuki, aruno, teresa is close, so It can switch anytime. But nagi and mao is just on the another level at the moment from the rest in 2025. Just like I said before, it's the most discussed member on net. But if I need to pick the most popular member of 5ki nogi currently, I will only pick nagi and mao.

"btw you doubt Miku's popularity just because you don't see her viral tweet."
this is double standaRd lol, you said miku is popular because you see her hit tweet first, so why can't I said so?

 

First round of Meet and Great :
Teresa : 5/30
Navi and Miku : 1/30

Teresa fans are really getting their revenge omg

 

Also a fan made a thread of viral posts
https://x.com/miku_I_524/status/1933783516506165417

 

Why isn't Himurachan in senbatsu? Isn't she popular enough?

 

Miku clips used to go viral like every other day when she was doing THE TIME and that was from appearing once a week haha. But how that translates to popularity is anyone's guess. It can only help for sure.

Now that I mention it, I really miss her clips appearing all the time. It is a shame her job there ended.