Stage48 Wiki - Organization & Discussion

Thank you for letting us now! I've put the new photos up on their profiles

 

Takita Kayoko does not have her new photo updated yet.

Kojima Haruna is also missing the Kanji and Kana for her name.

Thank you in advance!

 

Fixed Kayoyon's profile! (Will be double checking the AKB members pictures during the day to make sure they're all updated)

 

Please fix the titles of these pages:
http://stage48.net/wiki/index.php?title=Mutou_Tomu
http://stage48.net/wiki/index.php?title=Mutou_Orin
http://stage48.net/wiki/index.php?title=Chou_Kurena
http://stage48.net/wiki/index.php?title=Gyouten_Yurina

All of them go against the common Wiki48 practice of spelling ou as o. Moreover, in the case of the Muto sisters they were originally spelled correctly, but then were changed last year to the above spelling on the basis of their official profiles. Said official profiles have since been changed to use the Muto spelling. Cho and Gyoten's official profiles also use o instead of ou, though I'm not sure if they were *ever* spelled as above.

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I see two other cases of 48g members with names spelled with ou on the wiki:
Souda Sarina
Tanaka Kouko

(also the various Inoue's, but I think they're all graduated now?)

Soda Sarina looks weird to me, though it is the official spelling.
Same with Tanaka Koko, minus the official spelling part. It does fit her nicknames better.

 

I am not sure if it's open for debate but honestly speaking, in most names it's a better way of understanding the pronunciation of the name, and helps distinguish the "ou" from simple "o" sound (same goes for yuu/yu and so on). This way, for example, a person would assume the "ko" in Tanaka Ko(u)ko is pronounced the same was as the "ko" in Jo Eriko, or that Chou Kurena's surname is pronounced the same was as Cho Orie's.

 

Doesn't it depend on the kanji used / the word's actual meaning/pronunciation if it can be shortened in romanization or not? Like the word "yuuutsu" (melancholy) is made up of "yuu" (which can be shortened to "yu" in some romanization methods) and "utsu" (which is always romanized as-is - unless you're writing "tu" instead of "tsu" but that's a different story). So you can argue "yuuutsu" or "yuutsu" is correct but "yutsu" is objectively wrong. I'm not entirely sure which names have this same logic applied, but I think "Inoue" is one of the names that you can't shorten by taking out the "u"... Correct me if I'm wrong of course.

I have no issue with shortening something like "Yuuka" to "Yuka" if that's a legitimate way to spell it (and in most Yuuka/Yuka cases it is), but I do think it's important to be sure before just removing every seemingly-extra "u" from every name without actually being sure, because there are some words and names that can't be shortened like that.

 

Wouldn't it be simpler to select an existing romanization standard and stick to it? Not a lot of options to debate and problem is relegated.

 

So as far as I understood, the differnce in spelling is there because of different possibilities of pronouncations. However, there are few members where this seems to have been disregared, especially for example for members whose name starts with O.

Example;

• Short O: Oda Erina, Okita Ayaka
• Long O: Ota Aika, Oshima Yuko, Oba Mina

However, all of them are spelled with a single O. It'd be great if we had some consistency.

And since you mentioned the yuu/yu difference, I get that Tano Yuuka is spelled with Yuu and Ogino Yuka with Yu, but then again why are the Yukos spelled with Yu when it's pronounced with a long u (Oshima Yuko, Sugamoto Yuko)?

I totally agree with you that we should showcase long vowels but maybe then adapt it to every member and not handpick a few.

 

Exactly. Some names are actually pronounced differently even if they are written in the same way (in English). I agree with you about Yuuko/Yuko.

@xinchun - I am pretty sure those are not the names in discussion, though. In any case, that's correct. Inoue (井上) is pronounced as i-no-ue. The question is about names like Itou (伊藤), which are pronounced as i-tou and not i-to.

 

I just brought up "Inoue" because someone mentioned it above.

In any case I think a standard should be picked and stuck to. It's hard to rely on the official sites because they also may not be consistent with each other or over time. Japanese tend to be that way with romanization I've noticed. Sometimes you'll see official media that says "Satou" and other official media that says "Sato". So for the wiki it's best to just pick one regardless of what is stated on the official site, unless it's a special case like a non-Japanese name or something.

 

I follow their names in the oficial web

 

I think all of the charts/templates for AKB have finally been updated with the new teams and profile pictures!
SKE, NMB, NGT and HKT are also completely done I think (?). Good work everyone!

 

I was browsing the wiki earlier and I noticed that the members of old sub groups still have "she is a member of xyz unit" (i.e. Sashihara Rino is a member of Not Yet). Does it really make sense to keep it in the past tense? It's pretty safe to say that Not Yet and all the other old subgroups (no3b, French Kiss) are pretty much done.

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Hello, can I still apply as editor for wiki48? I noticed that there are so many grammatical error in many JKT related pages. If it still possible then my email is adittrc04@gmail.com, thank you

 

@sscrla You should have followed the name inside the link - job done halfway
http://stage48.net/wiki/index.php/Okuhara_Hinako