Stage48 Wiki - Organization & Discussion

Discussion in 'Announcements & News' started by aakun, Aug 3, 2010.

  1. bonjourmarlene

    bonjourmarlene Upcoming Girls

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    I think the pinyin refers to romanization of hanzi, and romaji to the romanization of kana, in the case of Macharin now.
     
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  2. Rurouni

    Rurouni Upcoming Girls

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  3. Hiraishin

    Hiraishin Kenkyuusei

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    Hello, i don't know if this is correct place to ask. But i really want to know who always take in charge keyaki's single sales on oricon wiki? kuroi hitsuji 1st week etc hasn't update yet. I hope someone will update it bc i don't have a wiki account and i'm not really confident to be one of them.
    http://stage48.net/wiki/index.php/Oricon#Keyakizaka46
    Thank you before,

    (Sorry for my english, if it sounds impolite and bad, i'm still learning)
     
  4. bonjourmarlene

    bonjourmarlene Upcoming Girls

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    I went through the History of the page and it seems to be a user named Windshaker. Their goal is to update the Oricon page biweekly for ALL48 and Sakamichi, so please be patient. I understand it is a lot of work to keep up with the Oricon sales of all groups
     
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  5. natsu-kun

    natsu-kun Kenkyuusei

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    Now that it's already April 2 in Japan, I removed all the Google+ links from Social Networks page: http://stage48.net/wiki/index.php?title=Social_Networks&diff=226139&oldid=226037

    Rest in Peace, Google+ (28.6.2011 - 2.4.2019) (pun intended :hehe:)

    All the member pages still have Google+ links, @wlerin has tried to make automated tool for that tedious task but there is some technical difficulties thanks to Wiki48's MediaWiki version 1.19.1 that has been released on June 2012 and has been unsupported since May 2015. (@Mr Waffle pls!)
     
  6. wlerin

    wlerin Upcoming Girls

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  7. ootamudkip

    ootamudkip Kenkyuusei

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    I have a little question, are we allowed to use non official group/official label channel for MV/PV? Because the B-side MV link for Suki to Iwasetai are all not from official channel
     
  8. jukimai

    jukimai Kenkyuusei

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    Admins & mods, BNK48 has a new song: . Please add it on their wiki
     
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  9. bonjourmarlene

    bonjourmarlene Upcoming Girls

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    Thank you for this! I don't speak Thai, so I'm finding it difficult to find any sources about where this song came from. Is it a new single? Is it a co-operation with http://www.byebyeplasticbags.org? On the BNK48 website, they're still promoting Beginner with banners and such, so my assumption is that it is a promo/CM song for Bye Bye Plastic Bags. I would be very grateful if you could provide me with any sort of information ^^
     
  10. sscrla

    sscrla Stage48 Moderator Staff Member Stage48 Moderator

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    It's a 7-11 campaign.

    "CP All Public Company, the sole operator of 7-Eleven convenience stores in Thailand, announced its intention to reduce and, eventually, to eliminate the use of single-use plastic bags at all their stores throughout the country."

    https://thethaiger.com/news/nationa...-plastic-bags-at-7-eleven-stores-in-one-month

    Plastic Bag Ban Campaign at 7-Eleven Convenience Stores Cuts Use of 100 Million Plastic Bags
    https://www.chiangraitimes.com/plas...res-cuts-use-of-100-million-plastic-bags.html

    7-Eleven launches campaign to 'reduce and stop' use of plastic bags
    https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/10...paign-to-reduce-and-stop-use-of-plastic-bags/
     
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  11. WeRiseOrFall

    WeRiseOrFall Kenkyuusei

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    Hi, are every STU 1st gen member still considered Kenkyuusei?
     
  12. lionel90

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  13. y2kbug.hk

    y2kbug.hk Kenkyuusei

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    May administrator please correct the team name of all Keyakizaka46 members?

    Since all Hiragana Kekaki members have become Hinatazaka46, there is no need to determine Keyakizaka46 members as Kanji or Hinagana.

    Please change them into 1st generation and 2nd generation.
    I want the first column show 1st and 2nd instead of 櫸.

    Thank you very much.

    Sent from my H9493 using Tapatalk
     
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  14. Cindy

    Cindy Kenkyuusei

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    Hi,
    Is it possible for the admins and mods fix the mistakes on Nogizaka’s page for the 4th album please? Especially for the senbatsu song with Riria, Umezawa, Momoko, etc are being placed as part of 2nd Gen when they are all 3rd Gen. (and Ranze being in 3rd Gen for Sayuringo’s Gundan song)
    I am also wondering if information like Shinuichi and Umezawa’s exclusive model /regular model will be updated on their page (as Nogizaka’s official website had posted an update)? (Shinuichi regular model for andGIRL and Oggi.jp and Umezawa exclusive model for with). Thanks.
     
  15. Wade & Wander

    Wade & Wander Kenkyuusei

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    Hi, I'd like to make an edit to BNK48's members' page. Namely, I'd like to edit their names.

    As many of you know, BNK48 members have 'real names' and 'nicknames'. The members go by their nicknames in their daily personal & professional life. Most fans will also only know the members by their nicknames. Even some of the members themselves only know each other by their nicknames (as there was a quiz to test members how well they know each other by asking each of their first name, indicating that this is not common knowledge amongst them).

    Since the focus of Wiki48 is to be a source of information & ease of use for seeking that information, using their real names (which many people aren't familiar with) is an obstruction to that end. As such, I'd like to edit the names for the members by adding their nicknames on top of their real names. For example, 'Music', her real name is 'Praewa Suthamphong' will become 'Music Praewa Suthamphong' (or if possible, 'Music Praewa' as this is how Thai celebrities are often referred to in Thai media 'Nickname Firstname', rather than 'Firstname Lastname'. At least this way, it is easier for users to search and find information about the members.

    I understand that many AKB members have nicknames, but are listed using their full real names rather than their nicknames.
    However, the thing is Thai culture is different wherein the 'nicknames' aren't really 'nicknames' or 'stage names' per se.
    These nicknames aren't created so that it's easier or more appealing to fans. These nicknames were given at birth, and stays with them throughout their whole lives. Almost 99% of Thai people have nicknames, which are given at birth.
    These nicknames are more important than real names, because it's the name that's used 95% of the time in their daily lives, by acquaintances, friends, family, employers, etc. The only time a real name is every used is in official documents such as opening a bank account, government documents, etc.

    https://theculturetrip.com/asia/thailand/articles/why-do-thai-people-have-nicknames/
    http://www.thailandbreeze.com/thai-nicknames.html

    In any case, I'd like to make the edits for the following reason:
    1. The use of nicknames is more accurate as this is the name the members use most in their daily lives.
    2. The inclusion of nickname is the best naming system for BNK48 members on Wiki48 as it allows users to seek information about the members more easily and efficiently.
    3. The system of nickname is important to Thai culture. It's not similar to nicknames in foreign country where it's just used for fun. These nicknames are more like 'second names', or even 'first names', since they're often chosen even before the full names, are the primary names used by Thai people throughout their lives, and are the names BNK48 members have chosen to represent themselves. Note at the elections (both in AKB48's SSK & BNK48's own SSK), the members have chosen to go by their nicknames when holding their placards (e.g. Music, not Praewa Suthamphong). Even when announcing their names, the nickname will always take precedence over their full name.

    Let me know if this is possible! Thanks!
     
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  16. Akira Maruni Harvestrainer48

    Akira Maruni Harvestrainer48 Kenkyuusei

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    I think, I prefer to keep their real name rather than use her nickname as the title. I still can find Music BNK48 or Noey BNK48 and their Wiki48 pages are appeared in the 1st page.

    Alternatively:
    1) Create redirect (Not Move) pages with those name. For this, I don't know if this can be detected by Google Search Engine or no, but it'll be useful if you wanna refer members in a page by using her nickname.
    2) Move those pages to this: Real Name (Nickname).
    But, IDK if another Wiki48 user will be disturbed with this. :/
    3) Keep them, Google search still can detect their nickname. :D

    How do you think ?
    Sorry if I'm false ;)
     
  17. bonjourmarlene

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    I understand where you're coming from but this will require a looooooot of work. Every single member's page will have to be created again because it's not possible to edit the title (as the title is also the link), and every single page containing a member's name will have to be edited (e.g. a random song page that lists which members participated in the song).

    If more people are in favour of adding their nicknames, it's a project I will undertake but please understand that it would require a lot of time. I would also be inclined to write it as (using Music as the example) "Praewa Suthamphong (Music)" or "Praewa 'Music' Suthamphong" simply because we have an English speaking wiki and non-Thai natives that are not very familiar with either Thai culture (such as myself) or BNK48 would be led to assume that her full real name is Music Praewa Suthamphong, and not that Music is her nickname. I hope that makes sense.

    Anyway, I'd really like to hear some input from other editors or readers before starting this.
     
  18. Wade & Wander

    Wade & Wander Kenkyuusei

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    Yes, you're still able to find some members from Google search if you type their names in, but this is usually for the popular members only (e.g. Music, Noey, etc.), but for some other members like Fond or Deenee, typing 'Deenee BNK48' on Google will not link you to their Wiki48 page.

    Additionally, there are also users who browse the member lists to learn their names and familiarise themselves with the members. Seeing that the list currently only uses full names, but BNK48 only professionally goes by their nicknames, it's not very helpful in that sense.

    I think your second suggestion would work best in this case.

    Thanks for considering to undertake the project, but please don't worry about that.
    If there's no problem with it in principle then I'd be more than happy to do it myself (I understand it's a lot of work and wouldn't expect you to do it).
    I'll send you a PM.
     
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  19. Akira Maruni Harvestrainer48

    Akira Maruni Harvestrainer48 Kenkyuusei

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    Can a redirect page be found/detected on Google ? If it can be found/detected, just create a redirect page with that format. Try this first before attempting the 2nd method, I wish the Wiki48 members won't get disturbed with this. ;)
     
  20. bonjourmarlene

    bonjourmarlene Upcoming Girls

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    I know that the page http://www.stage48.net/wiki/index.php/Tano_Yuka exists, but it is a redirect page to Tano Yuuka (double u). As you can see in the screenshot below, the title of the page says Tano Yuuka but the link says Yuka.

    Screen Shot 2019-04-22 at 10.39.36.jpg

    And when you click the link, this happens

    Screen Shot 2019-04-22 at 10.40.33.png

    So, I'm not sure how to answer your question. Google is able to detect redirect pages as in the case of Tano Yuka's page, but when you click the link, obviously you'll be redirected right away. Either way, changing the members' names will require a redirect page in any case because it is probably impossible to find all pages that link to a BNK member


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    Completely different question, but how should we go about the NGT case? Team NIII and Team G were disbanded, and they're back to Gen 1, Gen 2 and Draftees.
     

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