Stage48 Wiki - Organization & Discussion

Discussion in 'Announcements & News' started by aakun, Aug 3, 2010.

  1. bonjourmarlene

    bonjourmarlene Upcoming Girls

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    The new page (the one that has all the information on it) is uu. It's because of a discussion that happened months ago about differentiating between members that have long vowels or short vowels in their names. The 'Yuka' is pronounced differently in Tano Yuka and Ogino Yuka, so it was decided that the name would be changed.
     
  2. wlerin

    wlerin Upcoming Girls

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    I don't think it's possible to upgrade the wiki software...

    No...? It was changed before any discussion happened, and that's not what the discussion concluded (in so far as it concluded anything).
     
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  3. bonjourmarlene

    bonjourmarlene Upcoming Girls

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    Well then enlighten me why it was changed because I wasn't the one who did it. I didn't even have a wiki account at the time. Matter of fact is that the Yuka page redirects to Yuuka.
     
  4. sscrla

    sscrla Stage48 Moderator Staff Member Stage48 Moderator

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    Go back to June and September (search for macron in this thread) to see a discussion. Here is wlerin from back then

    "Yu(u)ko is probably a bad example though, there isn't a true Yuko on Wiki48, and every Yuko I'm aware of even outside of the 48 sphere is actually ゆうこ. A better example is Yuuri vs. Yuri, and there is where I would look to the official profiles."

    I was suggesting the use of the macron back in June 2017, but my argument didn't carry the day.
     
  5. wlerin

    wlerin Upcoming Girls

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    Another editor changed it without any discussion. His reason for doing so was to match the official profiles, kind of like I suggest doing above ^ but I only caved to that later on because a third person was going through and adding invalid u's to every member name even when the official profiles didn't have it. The extra u isn't correct Hepburn or Nihonshiki, and creates confusion between long u and when it's two separate syllables (e.g. Inoue), and imho should only be added, if ever, when there's evidence that the member herself romanises her name that way either on her official profile or (consistently) on her social media.

    In Tano Yuka's case, her official profiles use Yuuka:
    https://centralltd.co.jp/talent/yuukatano/

    But all her personal accounts use Yuka:
    https://twitter.com/tanoyuka_0307
    https://www.instagram.com/tanoyuka_official/ 田野優花/TanoYuka
    https://ameblo.jp/tanoyuka-official/

    In my experience, the spelling without the extra u is vastly more common in English sources, to the point that Google thinks Yuuka is a typo. There are some members that consistently express the u (or the i) when spelling their name out in Latin characters. e.g. Ota Yuuri, Fujie Reina. For all others, in my opinion, it should be omitted and any disambiguation necessary can be found in the info table.

    (Oh, and ou is always wrong because it suggests a pronounciation like bow.)

    Well, it did. [hehe] You used this as an example to show how redirects worked, I used it as an example of how the Move button works :p
     
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  6. Nory

    Nory Kenkyuusei

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    what's with ske' wiki page?
     
  7. bonjourmarlene

    bonjourmarlene Upcoming Girls

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    What do you mean? It looks normal to me
     
  8. Nory

    Nory Kenkyuusei

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    It's either a virus from my pc or someone edited the page lol
     

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  9. bonjourmarlene

    bonjourmarlene Upcoming Girls

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    Maybe something wrong with your pc? It looks like this for me

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    The page hasn't been edited in about a month according to the history
     
  10. Nory

    Nory Kenkyuusei

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    Yeah, problem fixed- it was my computer, sorry about that.
     
  11. Akira Maruni Harvestrainer48

    Akira Maruni Harvestrainer48 Kenkyuusei

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    A big no. I don't agree for this. The PC version of Wikimedia is better and has enough navigation. I recommend you to open Wiki48 with Opera Mini High/Extreme Data Saving, it has enough appearance and navigation rather than OpMin with no Data Saving, UC Browser either with or without Data Saving, etc.

    Oh yeah, should we create another member infobox for members who have secondary and tertiary name ? Some of JKT48 member has Chinese name, one of them is Ayen.
     
  12. Humbucker

    Humbucker Upcoming Girls

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    ^ You didn't get my point. I'm not suggesting to change one version for another, but to have both-- which is pretty normal nowadays. And you still could access either version on settings of the browser, for example.
     
  13. Lusankya

    Lusankya Rank 81-100 (Temporary Name)

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    Miyazaki Miho's profile pic wasn't updated in the wiki. Neither in the member overview nor in her article.
     
  14. Kudostar

    Kudostar Kenkyuusei

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    seconded this, you can always create both of mobile and desktop interface nowadays. It's not a new thing to do since I've been worked with website developer to create both web and mobile interface for s*nsodyne in my country. You can easily change the appearance by using desktop site button on chrome. Marketing wise, providing both interface is a good value for the website.
     
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  15. wlerin

    wlerin Upcoming Girls

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    Most likely such a mobile version would come packaged with a newer version of the MediaWiki software the site runs on. It is my understanding that the people who have that kind of access to the wiki backend aren't responding to hails.
     
  16. David61

    David61 Upcoming Girls Stage48 Donor

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    There's an error with the DVD tracklistings of Hinatazaka46's 1st single 'Kyun'. The second track for each type should be as follows:
    • (Type-A) JOYFUL LOVE Music Video
    • (Type-B) Footsteps Music Video
    • (Type-C) Tokimeki Kusa Music Video
     
  17. ryandtw

    ryandtw Kenkyuusei

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    Actually, there's an error with Tokimeki Kusa on the 'Kyun' single wiki page as mentioned above. It's actually 'Tokimeki Sou', not Tokimeki Kusa.
     
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  18. David61

    David61 Upcoming Girls Stage48 Donor

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    If it helps I've attached in the spoiler below large photos (as clickable thumbnails) of the backs of the actual CDs of 'Kyun' so the full tracklistings (including individual member PVs) can be verified.

    Type A
    image1.jpg

    Type B
    image2.jpg

    Type C
    image3.jpg
     
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  19. SI-Doitsu

    SI-Doitsu Kenkyuusei

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    Nogizaka46 23rd Single "Sing Out!" Type-B Bonus Video should be "Kassoro" not "I am loving?"

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  20. David61

    David61 Upcoming Girls Stage48 Donor

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    Just a quick heads-up that the new HKT48 member profile pics have just appeared on the official website: http://www.hkt48.jp/profile
     
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