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Takakura Moeka (Mocchan/Okappa) / 1st Generation

Discussion in 'NGT48 Graduated Members' started by nobodywil, Sep 8, 2015.

  1. nobodywil

    nobodywil Upcoming Girls

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    Anytime I read "she got a push" or "her pushed failed"...

    I sit back, have a drink and let out a good chuckle. Because I'm still a sucker for a good ol' comedy bit. :lol:
     
  2. Nory

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    Today is the first day of voting lol there's still a whole week left

    Moeka is my favorite member from NGT so I got a lil' bit worried but it seems it's nothing to worry about [hehe]
     
  3. Trinu

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    @Nory don't worry

    I guess think that because of her push, she should have ranked in the SSK.
    NGT had just debuted when the last election took place, and I'm impressed Katomina ranked.
    We have to wait and see the next election, when they have debuted and all, so say.

    And even then, the election is a weird thing.
    Every fan and their mother knew who Miki or Annya were two years ago, yet they didn't rank (and I had to look up some names that actually ranked).

    It all depends on how management takes it if she doesn't rank. Or how many other names rank on top of her.

    I'm not sure she'll rank next year (hopefully), but then again, she's young.

    Again, it's a game of wait and see.
     
  4. Dee

    Dee Kenkyuusei

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    The group isn't old enough for anyone to be considered a "failed push" yet because a push takes a while to show result, especially when it's for a young member.
    It's even more hilarious calling Moeka a failed push just because she got to center one song in a b-side and didn't consequently rank in SSK or sellout her slots. It's like calling SKE's Goto Rara, HKT's Matsuoka Hana and NMB's Yamamoto Aya failed pushes because they also didn't rank in the last SSK and didn't sellout their HS slots, even though they got to be center/front their group's single and perform on national TV.

    @Nory It's even said so in the failed pushes description: (not counting NGT48 and Keyakizaka46 since they are still new).
     
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  5. Macron48

    Macron48 Kenkyuusei

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    I don't know about failed push but, and I'm saying this as an Okappa oshi, I feel like she sabotages herself every chance she gets. Like anytime she gets a chance to appeal or promote herself she can't do anything but put her hands on her face in terror and make awkward squeaky noises. Like in the last Lucky Girl Ranking when Muramoto was trying to talk to her and she wouldn't talk and Rie was like "Moeka... say something" and she just... couldn't.

    Girl needs to relax.
     
  6. jessiejinx

    jessiejinx Kenkyuusei

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    she always felt like a very shy person that oe she has confidence issues (shes braver then me)
     
  7. EinhanderX

    EinhanderX Next Girls

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    Since we all acknowledge that Okappa already received some kind of push in the past, it's like she have to grow thicker than she could naturally.

    Whatever the case, the spotlight won't be on her forever.
     
  8. JOELicious

    JOELicious Kenkyuusei

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    If you're really her oshi, you should know whether it's her minus or her charm. ^^


    Say,
    What is this "PUSH" are?
    Is it :
    Being a center is a PUSH.
    Sounds like,
    Picked as song senbatsu is a PUSH.
    As well as,
    Being picked as a Captain and Vice are being PUSHED.
    Then,
    14 members who got named on NIII are being PUSHED, and the 10 who still on KKs aren't.
    And finally,
    Being accepted as a member is a PUSH.

    For real?
    Then, tell me what's the different between PUSH, CHANCE, and RESPONSIBILITY?:D
     
  9. EinhanderX

    EinhanderX Next Girls

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    Easy,

    PUSH is what A-Oshi say if B-chan get good things from management.
    ("She got a push!")
    CHANCE is what A-Oshi say if A get good things from management.
    ("She deserve this chance!")
    RESPONSIBILITY is what A-Oshi say if B got bad things, like scandal or demoted from senbatsu.
    ("That's her responsibility!")

    FYI, There's a forgotten 4th term here,what A-Oshi say if A got bad things.
    "This is BS!"

    :awesome:
     
  10. Humbucker

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  11. JOELicious

    JOELicious Kenkyuusei

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    Well, that's more like "A-Oshi and Hater for the rest of the group" then. xD
    [​IMG]
     
  12. marioworldakb

    marioworldakb Under Girls Stage48 Donor

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    To be honest, isn't it a minus?
     
  13. JOELicious

    JOELicious Kenkyuusei

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    Then you can say that Aramaki Misaki awkward shyness on her first 2.5-3 years at HKT are minus too. ^^
    + ("She's cute even if she shy, so it's fine.")
    - ("Then Moeka aren't cute when she shy?")
    + ("No, it's her minus!")

    Double standard huh?
     
  14. marioworldakb

    marioworldakb Under Girls Stage48 Donor

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    Woah woah woah

    Wait bruh, I didnt bring up her did I lol

    And yes to your statement, I think that was a minus.

    And look at that girl now, she changed out of that complex.

    Being shy is one thing, but you can't be shy as an entertainer/idol. It just doesn't work. And I believe Moeka should grow out of it asap if she wanna stay around the group.
     
  15. JOELicious

    JOELicious Kenkyuusei

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    That's what everyone call "Gap Moe". (which what I call it charm)
    She might be that awkward in front of TV camera.
    But is she like that on, lets say the one that everyone know, Showroom ?
    Come to her HS once, she might be a bit passive first time she meet you, but it wont be long before she remember you.
    It's sure you'll see much more difference with what you see on a "Variety Show".
    As Sasshi said, She might be "weird" , but she's really cute (with that gap).
     
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  16. marioworldakb

    marioworldakb Under Girls Stage48 Donor

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    Yeah bruh, I get the moe thing. But getting it into work doesn't really help her impress the management POV. Just like when Paru did her salty thing the fans loved it but there were even more hates on her for that, and she was pretty top back then so she can do whatever the buck she wants, but Moeka ain't anything like that yet sooooooo...

    It's totally fine and cool if she does it under the radar but during bigger shows like AKbingo is a big nono. (Heck, prob even Kitarie felt a little bit annoyed when Moeka threw the chance away again to express herself)
     
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  17. EinhanderX

    EinhanderX Next Girls

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    Wut, thx for reminding me that top member can do whatever they wants, as long as they have rabid fans behind them. They always right.

    Back to Moeka, just watched the Niigata no Furendo 2nd ep. Realized one thing.
    She should not be pushed as a center material, she better fit a variety-tantou after Noeppi.
     
  18. marioworldakb

    marioworldakb Under Girls Stage48 Donor

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    LOL Okappa in Rie's coat

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  19. Humbucker

    Humbucker Next Girls

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    Sashihara-san
    I love her so much

    We've become friends since Sashikita time
    and she talks to me every time we meet. <3

    I consult her and she gives me some advice
    It's someone who I can really count on. :blush: <3

    She's like a big sister to me. <3

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  20. Yukitie

    Yukitie Member Stage48 Donor

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    AWWWWW
    Absolutely adorable, really great to see.
    Her photos - and from what I can see, her overall confidence and manner - are just getting better and better. Really hope she gets to centre something on the single.
     

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