Discussion in 'General Nogizaka46 Discussion' started by ひめか, Apr 17, 2019.
I'd choose to let things be as they are. There are enough members in Nogizaka46 at the moment.
If Shida become a Nogi member, she might look like Wakatsuki in visual (Wakatsuki in Kaerimichi era), and Ikuta in her way of act.
As for who can be in Nogi. I can only see Sugai, Akane, Hono and Matsuda Rina; Katoshi, Hina and maybe Mirei.
In keya : i want Imaizumi Yui. Moriya Akane and Suzumoto in Nogi
In Hina : Kosaka Nao and Sasaki Mirei
In Akb : Yahagi Moeka
trade out 4th gen, trade in some girls from 2nd gen kanji like matsudairo and seki yumiko + kosako nao and katoshi. but obviously we need more than pretty face. we need badass girl/variety girl too. suzumoto miyu can be a replacement for marika. both is good dancer and has great expression on stage.
the thing is there is no eligibility on personality or beauty to be on any Sakamichi group.
having a lot of variation in is always better.
edit: ofc Im not including Yoshi
I think i just need to laugh now when some certain people start mentioning Nogi's 4th gen and Kanji's 2nd gen in the same line
For Hinata a lot of them especially all of 2nd gen. Katoshi Kyoko Mei and Miipan from 1st gen.
No one from Keyaki would suit Nogi. Their visuals are lower tier and variety skills are nonexistent. They’re just dull.
Also Hinata are not derived from Futari Saison don’t know where that comparison came from.
"Their visuals are lower tier"
I wonder what tier are you in
MFW Berika and Berisa are low tier visual.
Nowhere near what you’re trying to imply CTFU. Getting hurt over the truth. Moving on.
To the comment above me yes they are. Again proving my point when the members y’all think are the prettiest from that group really aren’t all that ...
Reading this post I can't help but wonder where genuinely expressing each one's unpopular opinion ends and just having a pretest to diss other groups members start.
Give it up, seems crab mentality is common here.(ofc no cure for that)
The never ending comparison with superiority complex.
Your truth is not a universal one.
Or maybe someone bringing it here.
unless your eyes at your knee i accept and understand your opinion because your inability to see.
if not i fell sorry for ya...this is not how it works...
Yes like that someone 80% of post are sarcasm.
That's literally the wrongest thing I have ever read in my entire life.
Nogi fans and their "greatest visuals of all time" delusion is just as annoying as Keyaki fans and their "most unique and authentic idol group of all time" delusion.
The problem is its easy to call out Keyaki fans but in order to call out Nogi fans, you have to point all the *not visual at all* members of Nogi and no one wants to be that person who says mean things about an idol's looks.
Hello, fellow forum members. Within my usual long rambling below, there might be some nuggets that would pass as “unpopular opinions”. Let’s go…
I’m not really on-board with this “transfer between groups” idea/suggestion. I feel that the members are fine where they are. In fact, I also fail to see the merit of Kennin/concurrent position approach. I remember Ikoma Rina to AKB and Rena Matsui to Nogi in the past. Maybe it worked for the 48 groups, I don’t know for sure. Perhaps there are success stories that I’m unaware of.
I love Hinatazaka46 members, love Audrey as the hosts…but lately, I felt that HinaAi have settled into this familiar & comfortable rhythm…that in itself is NOT a bad thing, but it feels…less fresh, if that makes sense. I look forward to the other 2 groups’ shows more recently. If I have to sit through another Kasu Kasu Kasu radio show segment, I’ll…ughhh. Then again, I felt the same way about the Snack Mao segments in HiraOshi (ended up loving those too). Just me being crazy.
Maybe I have ADD. But for me, my enjoyment for sakamichi TV shows change week to week. I watch all 3 “home programs” (NogiChuu, Keyakake & HinaAi) - but I don’t expect them to hit it out of the park every single week. Sometimes they do. Sometimes I just prefer one show over the other two. But I still stream them, and download them later to re-watch.
My mood also affects how much I enjoyed the episodes - some are instant classics, some I would appreciate more later. I would rewatch some and go, “wow, this is actually interesting…” so on and so forth. Maybe I just miss some graduated members after they’re gone. No, not “maybe”. I still miss Yone-san.
I am a Nogi fan firstly - and thru NogiChuu, I was exposed to Keyaki, and later Hiragana/Hinata46. I don't subscribe to those..."delusions" at all (I know you're not referring to me). Unfortunately, as with any kind of fandom, some fans are having opinions/ideals that I don't agree with or worse, I found to be toxic.
Non-idol example: I grew up in the 80s loving superhero comics. In present day, I don't get the whole "Marvel fans VS DC fans" thing. I just love superhero comics and watch the movies whenever I could. I don't understand the rivalry, the division, the dissing and hating and all the silly toxic stuff. I just love the things I love.
I will never get the point of "being a supporter of group X and hating group Y and their fans" mentality. I'd rather spend all my energy loving and enjoying my idol groups.
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--personal note: justification #1--
By exclude the silly "..of all time" thing --because its either too much of personal bias, fallacy, ppl consciously just fanboying/fangirling around, or statement that doesnt even exist im the first place if not for exaggeration, who knows-- ppl said either by bias or general impression. Much for the later, the case just result of abstraction, where the image came from. while thing does subjective, it's value that commonly share by community. Now it's not only the fan if we talk the admiration at least in japan. If someone want to observe thing closely, in much more concrete way, no, there won't be any definite, objective truth/answer instead another of the endless need of seeking affirmation.
So there nothing wrong with what so to be called "delusion" and holding it tight, there's nothing wrong with fanboying. I mean what do we do here if not for that?. It's just self-attitude amid the awareness of one contradiction.
『Cause of condescending? Prone to be toxic? It may, relatable in a way but not in particular. A reflection should be enough to grasp how can we act in such a way.』
It will be a delusion if only you or a handful of people say that. However, being on top of almost every single poll about idol group visuals across several outlet medias isn't something you can call "delusion".