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Re: Morning Musume

Postby karles48 » Jul 18, 2011 (11:35)

DSQ wrote:It is kinda unfair to compleatly compair AKB's PV to MM's, it is clear that AKB has much much more of a budget.

I don't agree. AKB's PVs have always been better than MM's. Besides, it's often a matter of imagination. PVs like Aitakatta, Sakura no Shiori, Boku dake no value....they are wonderful (IMHO, of course) How much did they cost? just the bus ride and little more (and that applies to most of their PVs)... On the other side Tsunku and Co have been always trying to hide the girls from the fans so most of their PVs are indoor (and perhaps they are even more expensive than AKB's)
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Re: Morning Musume

Postby superczmg! » Jul 19, 2011 (05:18)

^
For ponytail they went to Guam, and lately their PVs have been somewhat more stuff involved probably costing in more money.
Money wise AKB needs to sell lots of their singles and albums to survive, they have to pay at least 12 idols (at least) for every PV produced VS. MMs 8-9 people in every single, MM could sell the numbers that they are selling for a while. It probably takes to film a single song costing more money. They are making enough money to support and expand empire, but how many do they need sell at a minimum to cover all costs?
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Re: Morning Musume

Postby karles48 » Jul 19, 2011 (13:44)

superczmg! wrote:^ For ponytail they went to Guam, and lately their PVs have been somewhat more stuff involved probably costing in more money.

Ponytail, RIVER or Beginner are exceptions, not rules (besides, I wouldn't be surprised if the people at Guam had paid some money to get their island promoted)
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Re: Morning Musume

Postby RocketStarLauncher » Jul 19, 2011 (16:08)

No.... AKB PVs definitely cost more than MMs. Take any recent PV and just look at what they've bought:

Sakura no Shiori - Renting yukata, making uniforms, and busing around 48 girls. Hiring a famous director.
Ponytail to Shushu - Guam.
Heavy Rotation - Three costume sets and three sets made. Famous director hired.
Beginner - CG. 2 1/2 costume sets made. Famous director hired.
Chance no Junban - Horse.
Sakura Ki ni Narou - Rented school grounds. Costumes. Bused 5 girls around. Possibly famous director hired?
Everyday, Kachuusha - Guam. Rented boat. Used multiple settings. Possibly famous director hired?

Not saying either group is better for PVs (they're too different), but AKB pays much, much more them. It costs very little to rent out a studio and possibly a green screen and make a backdrop.

One also has to realize that "AKB48" also includes UG/TG/DIVA/Mint/random senbatsu songs, so those might also have to be included.
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Re: Morning Musume

Postby karles48 » Jul 19, 2011 (19:04)

RocketStarLauncher wrote:No.... AKB PVs definitely cost more than MMs. Take any recent PV and just look at what they've bought:...One also has to realize that "AKB48" also includes UG/TG/DIVA/Mint/random senbatsu songs, so those might also have to be included.


Ok, AKB48 moves a lot of money (and a lot of members) and they spend a lot of money, agree. But, apart from Guam (and perhaps they even got some money because of the promotion of the island, why not?) and the famous directors, I don't think they spent a lot of money in the rest. However, and this is just my opinion, my point is that AKB's PVs have been ALWAYS better than MM's. Just take the first eight PVs...
Sakura no hanabira tachi
Skirt, Hirari
Aitakatta
Seifuku ga jama wo suru
Keibetsu shiteita aijou
BINGO!
Boku no taiyou
Yuuhi wo miteiru ka?
The uniforms, the school, some bicycles, a warehouse...no famous directors, special effects, or amazing wardrove, but the still are far better (again, IMHO) than most of MM's PV (even the latest ones)
Btw: delete 'Skirt, Hirari' from my statement, please...
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Re: Morning Musume

Postby freezingkiss » Jul 19, 2011 (21:54)

^ lol. I totally get what you mean. Also, I like seeing smiling happy faces and energetic dances. MM doesn't seem to be conveying that really well. When they smile and flap about (like in Maji desu ka SKA) it just seems really forced. AKB just seem way more natural in front of the camera.

I WILL SAY though, Ai is way more suited to musical theatre and the girl has talent. I'd like to see her go far outside of MM but she's stayed so long I don't know if it will happen. Why would you want to stay virginal all these years. >.>
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Re: Morning Musume

Postby DSQ » Jul 23, 2011 (18:07)

^

Trust me alot, if not most, of the girls 17+ have had or have boyfriends. I think the general rule for the no boyfriends thing is just don't get caught. If aichan hasn't has at least one boyfriend or has flirtations in all these years I'll be surprised.

As for the PV thing, even with AKB's early PV's they have had bigger budgets than H!P, also they have the advantage of the school girl theme (you would be surprized how much schools cost to hire, also groups almost never use schools based in tokyo and so have to travel pretty far.) somthing MM hardly ever do.

If we are honest MM's PV have never been the most exspensive, LOVE MACHINE was a green screen affair as well and it is MM's big best seller.
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Re: Morning Musume

Postby freezingkiss » Jul 24, 2011 (18:34)

^ That's true. Also I didn't even think of that, considering the tiny amount of idols who have been caught with boyfriends, so many will never be caught. I hope not anyway! I hate it when they get fired for that. (Especially Miki, worst loss ever. ;___; )
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Re: Morning Musume

Postby gg_gah91 » Jul 27, 2011 (07:05)

hye.. i once a fan of momosu.

but then convert to kpop.

now i back to jpop

after knowing akb. [hehe] [hehe]
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Re: Morning Musume

Postby DSQ » Jul 28, 2011 (13:18)

Yo everyone there is a write up of the Morning Musume FC tour and wow I really wish I could go to somthing like this! MM got really up close and personal with the fans it seems. :blush:

http://www.hello-online.org/index.php?/blog/1126/entry-9988-2011-mm-hawaii-fc-tour/

Also here is riho, gakki and Aichan in the lastest MM concert kncking it outta the park!
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Re: Morning Musume

Postby Micchipyon » Jul 29, 2011 (11:44)

^

I love the new dance of Moonlight Night, it's much more better than the previous dance ~ <3

AI-CHAN IS SO SMEXY. <3 :nb:
And Gaki-san too. Rihorin is cute. xD ♥ I love Riho's voice in that song, it's so powerful ~ :cute: That performance was too epic. <3
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Re: Morning Musume

Postby garnetjester » Aug 02, 2011 (10:11)

I'm still sad about Risa and Ai's tragic haristyles (IMO) especially Risa's, she used to be my favorite member [cry]
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Re: Morning Musume

Postby RocketStarLauncher » Aug 02, 2011 (15:56)

Personally I love all of the old members' hair. Especially Ai's. She can really pull off blonde. Then again, I don't really have a connection to any of them.

While watching the concert,* I realized that I LOVE Sayumi. I was always an Eri fan, so I thought I was done for now that she's gone. And that group song near the start with tons of Sayumi lines was really good. (Says the casual MM fan.)

*I've watched this concert and the recent BK concert in the past few days to try and escape AKBWorld.
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Re: Morning Musume

Postby garnetjester » Aug 02, 2011 (18:38)

Sayumi is amazing <3 And even though Ai-chan can definitely pull off blonde, I hate the way it's styled most of the time, it looks like a wig [cry] And I don't know if it's because of the lack of makeup or because she plucked her eyebrows too much but Risa seems like she's squinting all the time lately. Weird. I wish she would get her luscious long hair back too, or that they styled it better because it looks so flat and unflattering most of the time ;A;

The concert also made me realize how pretty Aika is. She's just completely non-pohotogenic (or somehow she ends up making weird faces in 90% of the pictures I've seen her in). She's also become quite good at singing (granted the last time I saw her was like 3 years ago lolol). If I didn't dislike her personality I might even root for her [hehe]

And it also made me realize that Reina is amazing. I'm glad she's toned down the winking because it made no sense for her to wink so freaking much even during cool songs. She makes everything look effortless and while her voice isn't exactly powerful or anything she was spot on during the whole thing, definitely my favorite vocalist.

About 9kis: Kanon is adorable, but she honestly didn't stand out to me at all during the whole concert. Since her personality is her strong point I hope they do more to showcase it.

Mizuki is pretty, and she seems determined to do everything right for Morning Musume. I hope they push her more, she's got enough talent to be a great performer in the future

Erina is just SO awkward. She reminded me of early Koharu (she's kinda tone deaf too at times even xD) but it's that weird stiffness and complete awkwardness combined with the will to strive to become better and her super sweet smile and energy that led Koharu to become very famous, so I hope it works for Erina as well.

Riho is just awesome. She's a superb dancer if you consider her Moonlight Night performance, and the look in her face makes it pretty obvious that she means business. I love that about her! It's about time MM got a girl with a huge ambition, since the last one was Reina IIRC and see where she's gotten so far!

I was disappointed with Ai's vocals. Everyone knows she's very talented but tbh I think she was overdoing it with the growls and Oohhs and Ahhs especially in Fantasy ga Hajimaru and THE MANPOWER. Risa is also very talented but her control wasn't the best and she ended up growling too. I love Manpower, but I could barely watch it because I felt like those 2 were overdoing it :/ I guess to each their own, some people will like the strength in their voices but it sounded really overdoing it to me.

Also, I hadn't realized how similar MM's latest songs sound until I heard that medley they did at the end. I was especially shocked at how similar Onna ga medatte naze ikenai and the song they sang before (I don't know its name) were. Of course, it might appear that way to me since I've only been a casual listener for the past 2 or so years.

Overall, I feel like the MM girls are definitely talented as a unit and as always, they can deliver a great performance. I liked that there weren't any horrible costumes this time (although the Kimagure Princess butt rub looked hilarious in those huge puffy skirts xD) and Fantasy 11 had some great songs that I was looking forward to see performed. Sad that they seem to have given Eri's lines to Reina/Riho but I've been following MM enough to know better than to complain about line distribution. Only You remains my favorite single of theirs since Kimagure Princess, the performance was fantastic IMO.

I finally understand what Tsunku said when he meant that Reina is the closest to a perfect Morning Musume there is: She's committed to the performance, but she's still an idol. Her vocals are stable and she has a lot of stamina. While she's not the best dancer she keeps up with ease, and I like this mature side of her that doesn't wink every split second. She was definitely the most pleasant surprise for me.

But I still have to wonder what the hell are they going to do with Takahashi gone. I swear she sang like 65% of the concert and it's obvious that she's in command (maybe because other than Reina and arguably Riho now nobody gets even a chance to upstage her ever since Eri left). I'm looking forward to her graduation with the utmost interest because I really want to see how it pans out, in fact, it's actually one of the reasons I liked MM, there was always a change in the dynamics, line distribution and so on. Until it went stagnant after 8th gen, that is.

This is too long but I felt like pseudo reviewing it because I watched it last night when I was insomniac lol Overall I think it's a good concert, but I wish the 9kis would have gotten more lines in group songs, all they got were their mini units, and the camera didn't focus on them as much as on the older girls. Sometimes I even forgot they were there. I hope this gets better with time though :)
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Re: Morning Musume

Postby JAKKfromAKB48 » Aug 05, 2011 (00:25)

I heard their new song and it's much better them most of the horrible songs that look like they've been recycled that they've sung recently. It's a shame that when AKB48 wears costumes that show their belly buttons their called slits but when H!P girls do it they're praised LOL

And AKB always had cheap PVs in their early years, they made the best of it though and that's something H!P hasn't been doing recently.
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Re: Morning Musume

Postby wasshoi_b » Aug 29, 2011 (03:06)

I SERIOUSLY WANT IKUTA ERINA IN AKB!!! <3 <3 <3
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Re: Morning Musume

Postby Micchipyon » Aug 29, 2011 (15:06)

PV previews;



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Re: Morning Musume

Postby karles48 » Aug 29, 2011 (15:31)


Thank you! I really like the second one!
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Re: Morning Musume

Postby Criss » Aug 29, 2011 (20:44)

First the PV; (not a bad song, but the PV its too boring)



EDIT: Reupload

Now... are you ready for this:

H!P massive family single: “Busu ni Naranai Tetsugaku”!

All H!P groups (like the old H!P All Stars).

So... looks like H!P strikesback at last. 7... yes 7 different versions and all with a handshake ticket... ready to bet on this single?

http://www.sonymusicshop.jp/m/arti/arti ... d=79020200
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Re: Morning Musume

Postby karles48 » Aug 29, 2011 (23:23)

Criss wrote:First the PV; (not a bad song, but the PV its to bored)


Ooops, it's already deleted, it was really fast this time... [cry]
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Re: Morning Musume

Postby Criss » Aug 30, 2011 (00:01)

New Link available. Hurry up.
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Re: Morning Musume

Postby karles48 » Aug 30, 2011 (09:24)

Criss wrote:New Link available. Hurry up.

Thank you!!! Mmm, another 80's song, I'm not too excited...
The best part...all the members are LOVELY!!! (and Risa's got many lines) :cute:
The worst part...please, Risa, kill the one who decides your hairstyle... :hmm:
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Re: Morning Musume

Postby Makito » Sep 04, 2011 (19:51)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLGVkcoW ... ideo_title

New PV NOW UP!

10mins long. Both Kono Chikyuu and Kare to in one HUGE video.

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Re: Morning Musume

Postby karles48 » Sep 04, 2011 (22:02)

Makito wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLGVkcoWe2g&feature=channel_video_title
New PV NOW UP!
10mins long. Both Kono Chikyuu and Kare to in one HUGE video.
Enjoy [chuffed]

10 minutes!!! Are they trying to compete with AKB's PVs? [hehe] Thank you for sharing, I definitely love the second half...!!! [inlove]
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Re: Morning Musume

Postby garnetjester » Sep 04, 2011 (22:42)

I don't think it's 10 minutes, it's just the two A-sides PVs together back to back :)
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