Single Nogizaka46 16th (Sayonara no Imi) (2016/11/09)

That Nanamin solo...
Did they make an only take or what? Sometimes she's singing and the music is going somewhere else.
Not bad though, just a bit messy.

This is the same stuff people have been saying about AKB since Acchan left in 2012.

Fans will grow old, sure. But they can also get new fans.
They are a female idol group that consists basically in girls leaving and girls coming in. You never know if you'll find a new diamond in your ranks.
AKB's glory days might be long gone, but their sales are still strong and they keep creating new sister groups.

Heck, Keyakizaka is probably having the best debut year of any group ever? And that's saying.

ANYWAY

The song is pretty safe, but I like the last chorus where it's all a bit more stripped down.
It still reminds me of Christmas on summer or something.

A bit too much of Miona on the b-sides though. Still don't get what's so awesome about her.

 

Yass... ayane-chan... glad she get recognition
Also better position for Renachi

And as expected for Ranze. Kanarin too. They justified their spot by HS popularity.

Young guns is coming... time by time they attract more and more fans.

But, I thought one or two 3rd gen join undermember. Where are they?

 

Love Nanamin's solo. everything i expected from her.

I can't wait for the better singers in Nogi to try their hand at it. not to take anything away from her rendition, but just to hear a more adept singer.

Still. Nanamin. There was such a member.

 

I like Nanamin's voice and song, it really suits her and the main song. I would love to see Maimai as a special guest on her last day.

 

Love the song! The mood is just perfect for someone like Nanamin. Can't wait to hear the other songs.

 

Yay, I really like this kind of song!

 

In case anyone needs it, I transcribed it from one of the commenters who transcribed it from the video :3

densha ga chikadzuku
kehai ga suki nanda
koukasen no sono shita de mimi o sumashiteta

hashira no rakugaki
suuji to inisharu wa
dare ga dare ni nani o noko sou to shita no darou

toki no nagare (toki no nagare)
oshiete kureru (oshiete kureru)
sugisatta futsuu no hibi ga
kakegae no nai ashiato ga

sayonara ni tsuyoku nare
kono deai ni imi ga aru
kanashimi no saki ni tsudzuku
bokutachi no mirai

hajimari wa itsudatte
sou nani ka ga owaru koto
mou ichido kimi o dakishimete
mamoritakatta ai ni kawaru mono

densha ga tsuuka suru
gouon to kaza no naka
kimi no kuchibiru ga ugoita kedo kikoenai
seijaku ga modori
kotae o matsu kimi ni
boku wa me o mite hohoemi nagara unazuita

taisetsu na mono (taisetsu na mono)
toozakatte mo (toozakatte mo)
atarashii deai ga mata
itsuka wa kitto yatte kuru

sayonara o furimuku na
oikakete mo shou ga nai
omoide wa ima iru basho ni oite yukou yo

owaru koto tameratte
hito wa minna tachidomaru kedo
bokutachi wa dakiatteta
ude o hanashite motto tsuyoku naru

chuucho shiteta aida ni
hi wa shizumu (setsunaku)
tooku ni mieru tettou mo boyaketeku (tashika ni)
kimi ga suki dakedo (kimi ga suki dakedo)
chanto iwanakucha ikenai
mitsumeatta hitomi ga hoshizora ni naru

sayonara wa tsuukaten
korekara datte nandomo aru
ushiro me de misu shinagara
arukidaseru darou
kimi rashiku~

sayonara ni tsuyoku nare
kono deai ni imi ga aru
kanashimi no saki ni tsudzuku
bokutachi no mirai

hajimari wa itsudatte
sou nanika ga owaru koto
mou ichido kimi o dakishimete
honto no kimochi toikaketa
ushinaitakunai
mamoritakatta ai ni kawaru mono

It's actually a really wordy(?) song, no instrumental interludes lasting longer than about 3 seconds.

 

I misheard 'setsunaku' (painful) as 'senshuuraku' (the last day of a show)

 

You know what, I actually read that post of yours, so while I was doing this, the whole time I was trying to figure out where you heard "senshuuraku" from haha

 

But what would hapen if Sasshi, Sakuratan, Jurina & Sayanee aren't crossing over. Can Mayu, Yukirin, Paruru carry AKB on their own. 48 group members dwarfs zaka46, but AKB are stuck with the same old members. They're even bringing back the graduates for their single, twice already (though the 1st is just for the PV). There's no concurrency between zaka46 and Nogi haven't promoted their 2nd gen that well, except Hori. And you said it yourself, still don't get what's so awesome about her.
We all don't want Nogi to fade away now that graduations are inevitable. But management need to do a better job specially now that 3rd gen are here. I agree with you on one thing, hopefully one or two of these girls are diamond.

 

Not appealed on the solo song, but I reckon it's not flashy either.

RRRRANZE!


Nogi may be on the dusk of their "Golden Age" and possibly lost their "trending" vibe soon. But, I think it's a great test for their loyalist fans.
I still like the fact that 3rd gen are well-hyped back then. That's a good start for another age.

 

srsly tho
at dis point those 1st gen members who cnstantly get back row in under song
or not rankd in hs events might be better gradu8 n do sumthin els
kinda painful to see them as backdancers
not to mention the fresh faces we gonna get

 

Graduations are coming. Not sure how Maiyan and Misa were lumped in here. Maiyan, I feel, now has the burden of being the alpha and I don't see her giving up just yet. Misa senpai only just got here big time. I think she's gonna, and should, take Nanamin's oshis.

It's cray-cray to have expected a 3rd gen to have appeared as a member here. They barely have been introduced. They'll start being active probably around the new year. I would think we should see them around 5th anniversary time.

Every member is important to Nogizaka46 from center of senbatsu to back line of UG. Nogizaka46 is 35 members without counting the 3rd gen. It's not just the 11 fukujin, nor the 19 senbatsu, but the full 35. They are all important. The least popular shouldn't graduate because they are unpopular. They should graduate because they have achieved their goal of being the best idols they can be. At the moment, I don't think that the 1st gens of the third row UG have attained that. They anchor the back and always give their all for Nogi fans. We should cheer them on. Constantly. Every time we see them.

The world needs more Wada Maaya.
I want to see Rottii shine again.
And Kawago Hina, she's only just starting.

--
But back to the single... I'm disappointed that there are no member PV for the DVD content. It's seems to be not as bad as the 15th single DVD content, but without more information I am hesitant to say the single is going to be awesome. Has anyone come across information of what the content will be. Such as the documentaries for Sayonara no Imi and Tsumasaki no Mukou ni, are these the making of the MVs? And what does Itsumo to Chigau Natsu mean?

 

This morning on ZiP! Nanamin discussing her graduation and MV previews.


if the video does not show watch the video here

 

The lyrics of both songs made me die a little. If it weren't for Nanamin's graduation, the effects wouldn't have been so big, I think.

Moving on to the UG formation, I wish management would show a bit more love for Ito Karin. She's on the older side, and I think she deserves some more exposure while she's still here. I always liked her face, although until Hakumai Sama I never really pay much attention to her voice. I think she's got a nice voice... Or is it because I'm comparing it to Sayuringo's "singing"?

 

Well said about Nogizaka. It's not just about the members in the front. It's front-to-back and back-to-front. That's what makes this group special

"Itsumo to chigau natsu" means a "a summer that's different than usual."

 

Sayonara no Imi MV coming out in a few minutes. I'm so excited! XD

EDIT: everyone's so pretty. Naachan with her circle frames esp

 

MV


if the video does not show watch the video here

Looks like the dance part is filmed at the base of Fujisan in Yamanashi.