Single Nogizaka46 19th (Itsuka Dekiru Kara Kyou Dekiru) (17/10/11)

Discussion in 'Nogizaka46 News & Releases' started by ForrestFuller, Aug 27, 2017.

  1. RedBug

    RedBug Member

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    ^ The line-up for it is also written 'Suzuki Ayane' instead of 'Yamashita Mizuki'.
     
  2. ForrestFuller

    ForrestFuller Senbatsu

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    Fixed :).

    Also, which MVs have been released (So I can put them on the front page)?
     
  3. EinhanderX

    EinhanderX Next Girls

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    The A-side, Maiyan-Manatsu, and Wakatsuki Gundan to date.
     
  4. tiktok

    tiktok Next Girls

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    Castro Satoshi cover, in english


    if the video does not show watch the video here
     
  5. SilentBreeze

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    wow
    totally agree

    *
    anyone know (Maiyan, nanamin, sayurin [Kyushamen] unit name ??)
     
  6. Takoyama

    Takoyama Next Girls

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    I don't recall if they had an official unit name for this song. I could be wrong. If anything "Gosanke unit"
     
  7. ranze

    ranze Kenkyuusei

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    i still dont know 3rd gen members names :( I would get more into them, but no one really interests me in 3rd gen
     
  8. Takoyama

    Takoyama Next Girls

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    Not enjoying current "3rd Gen boom"? I'm sure if you watch them and read their blogs, one will eventually stand out. But I understand, trying to follow all members can be time comsuming especailly if you follow Keyaki also.
     
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  9. mayuri91

    mayuri91 Upcoming Girls

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    wow,really? I thought by now any nogi fans have learned at least the top5 girls of 3rd gen. Each of them is so beautiful that you can just recognize them easily. And sanbanme no kaze basically one of the best nogi song and i learnt them from the mv.lol
     
  10. SilentBreeze

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    thats it

    gosanke
    so what it really is??
     
  11. ranze

    ranze Kenkyuusei

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    I like sanbanme a lot. I just never really invested any time in them. I know momoka, yoda, i also recognize the ikuchan look alike. i think its most likely that momoka let me back away from 3rd gen. i dont her personality is so off to me and she is basically the one who introduced us to 3rd gen. to be honest i am not really hyped about them. i am just not interested. idk. its weird, because nogi is my all time favourite when it comes to music
     
  12. VIR46

    VIR46 Kenkyuusei

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    Well you are not the only one feeling like this, for me at least it started to make me more interested in other groups instead though.. Hopefully 3rd gen can redeem themselves(on my interest scale) soon but nogibingo wasnt that great this season and i dont only blame 3gen for that though but it certainly effect my image of them unfortunately.

    On a brighter note i find this single better then the last one, on the last one i kinda liked Mirai no Kotae and this single somewhat reminds me of that song. They are exploring a new sound in a small way but maybe something really great will be born out of it who knows.
     
  13. Bertowski21

    Bertowski21 Kenkyuusei

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    it's translated as top 3 or big 3, though i don't really know who labeled them that way or why they were given such a label, but the fans accepted it so they called them that
     
  14. mayuri91

    mayuri91 Upcoming Girls

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    i dont know if the meaning of gosanke is as you said,but before sayuringo major scandal, im pretty sure those three are actually the most popular members among fans. They are basically pillar of nogi that time and fans were mad because they were not at front row instead of ikohoshi(iku is likeable though) triple centre.
     
  15. Arbios

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    damn 4 3rd gen sold out at round 2 and 2 more on the next round
     
  16. Vanquire

    Vanquire Kenkyuusei

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    nogi have a great jisedai on 3rd gen. almost all of them had a center aura
     
  17. kanjo

    kanjo Stage48 Moderator Staff Member Stage48 Moderator

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    Gosanke were the "3 notable branches" of the Tokugawa clan during the early Edo-period.
    In essence they were the next in line for ascension of a new Shogun after the main line.
    In other words, they're not really the "top 3" but the most important 3 other than the main one.

    This makes the group even more appropriate, as the main line of inheritance would've been Ikoma (this group name is extremely old)

    The Gosanke were later replaced by the Gosankyo, three branches of the Tokugawa clan each headed by a son of the then Shogun. Though they didn't rule huge domains because they weren't established at a post-war era with lots of land to give, they were the new branches that would be alternate sources of new Shogun.

    This is why I personally call Yoda-Kubo-Yamashita the Gosankyo (because they're they new Gosanke, with Ozono as the new main branch), but I've never seen anyone else do so.
     
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  18. Bertowski21

    Bertowski21 Kenkyuusei

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    yup i just simplified it cause the real meaning involved history, and history is not my forte hehe [hehe]
    i'm not surprised if they were, i'm kinda late joining the fanbase so i don't really know about the detailed earlier nogi stuffs
    thanks for the explanation btw i don't even know that fans that time were against ikohoshi, that kinda surprise me :confused:
    well it's getting off topic here sorry :worthy:
     
  19. SilentBreeze

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    I see

    now i understand why they use gosanke

    thank you @kanjo
     
  20. eternalord

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    While it's true that original gosanke of Tokugawa were top three branches other than the main line, the term 'gosanke' in modern era, which is not exclusive to Nogizaka46, has slightly changed its meaning into simply 'top three'. And when another generation top trio rises, they are simply called shin gosanke, or new gosanke.

    I thought that's how it goes too in Nogizaka, so your explanation enlightened me :)
    This means only Nogizaka uses it to its true meaning. Or at least could be taken as a parallel to the original.

    Gosankyo does sound good though. If only fans actually use it, it's unique and hasn't been used yet afaik.
    Though Kubo is more of a Date clan member, for me personally :D
     

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