Iwata Karen (Karen) / 12th Generation

Discussion in 'AKB48 Graduated Members' started by Lariemeeva, May 27, 2011.

  1. wingroad

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    It's been a while since last time I login to this forum >_<

    Woaa.... It's already past 100 pages.... o_O

    And I can't keep the information update about Karen~~!! TAT

    Okay then, time to fast-reading all new updates since last time I login~!! >w<

    Thank you for the link~ ;)
    I think I also will become his fans too, lol~ :^O^:

    Old wounds opened again... :shock:

    Eh? Can you give me the timing where Karen appear in 5 seconds? I replay it again and again, but I didn't figure out... :confused:

    Thank you for the link ;)
    Don't worry, I am in the middle of working on her biography book. Next year probably will be able to finish and you can access it :1st:

    Brace yourself! That pose will become popular!! [hehe]

    Is that Matsui Sakiko?? Looks so different~~ :eek:

    So, what is this video actually? :blink:

    Eww.... Mentos + Cola.... :awesome:

    Looking forward for next episode of AKBingo :cry2:
     
  2. Magickaito

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    @wingroad tried to answer some of your question

    Eh? Can you give me the timing where Karen appear in 5 seconds? I replay it again and again, but I didn't figure out... :confused:
    Even some fans have shown the picture from the trailer but i didn`t to sure she is Karen. Also what she want to tells is total time she apperead in the movie.
    I also doubt if it really 5 seconds but even it true I don`t really care. Just 5 seconds is a good start that can stimulate other door to open and 5 seconds that get by eliminate 9.967 people is amazing enough. The one that make me really proud of her is how she get that role with her own and how her growth till now.

    Documentary
    I think what it means is the one like which give to Tano Yuka

    Is that Matsui Sakiko?? Looks so different~~ :eek:
    Because you quoted the whole thing, I can only assume that your question pointed to last part. If it that you mean then the answer is not her but she is Yagura Fuko.

    So, what is this video actually? :blink:
    Its about Karen & Shingeki no Kyojin

    A5R 1400 Report today
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    MC1 Theme What Food that can compare to yourself
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    When ask to member immediately said "Hagi no Tsuki"
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    MC2 theme is a nice little story that was happened recently
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    Suspicion of writing Kuroko

    MC3 Talk about Tomu
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    Tomu is generous, "kana' upbringing's parents

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    Kibouteki Refrain (first performane at theater)
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    "chotto matta"
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    Tomu birthday, 12th gen letter
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    Owari

    A5R 1800 Report today
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    MC1 theme today is which song that its dance you remember struggling enough before perfom
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    Kokoro no Placard
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    MC2 theme what do you want to speak in Heart Gata Virus lines {.............suki mitai}
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    My Pig's trotters ...suki mitai
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    Chichan {Pig`s trotters which look Karen....suki mitai}
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    MC3 What do you want at bitrhday suprise
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    Suuchan suprise
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    Taihen Karen .......:censored:....... was open:fp:

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    Kibouteki Refrain
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    Owari
     
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  3. Crossheart

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    Karen's pants was exposed? That's a real problem :eek:
     
  4. Magickaito

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    AKB Zenkoku Tour Team A 2014 Saitama

    Kage-Ana: Kojima Haruna (As expected of Nyan :D)
    1. AKB Sanjou!
    2. Aitakatta
    3. Kimi no Koto ga Suki dakara
    4. Iiwake Maybe
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    MC
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    5.Hasute to Wasute (Kawaei Rina+Takahashi Minami, Kojima Haruna {Staff})
    6. Hatsukoi Dash (Miyawaki Sakura, Taniguchi megu, Tatsuya Makiho, Nishiyama Rena)
    7. Lost the way (Muto Tomu, Fujita Nana, Ichikawa Manami, Morikawa Ayaka)
    (Backdancer : Iwata karen, Takita kayoko, Ino Miyabi, Nakamura Mariko, Maeda ami, Nakanishi Chiyori)
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    8. Kokoro no Fumen (Matsui Sakiko (Piano))
    9. Sakura no Ki ni Narou (Iwata Karen, Takahashi Minami, Nakamura Mariko)
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    [​IMG] [Warm scene between 1st & 2nd :blush:]
    (For this performance piano play is still like before but somehow tempo is slower and at some part music/voice overtaking another side. These time Takamina choice is to low, so she hardly reach it and make her power didn`t appear. For Karen, maybe she tried to balance it or to much follow the tempo with the result her power isn`t like usual. But, synchronization 3 of them is better than last time they done it together.)
    10. Kirigirisu Jin (Nakata Chisato, Nakanishi Chiyori, Matsui Sakiko)
    11. Kimi wa Boku da (Kojima Haruna)
    12. Choose me! (Shimazaki Haruka, Takita Kayoko, Kojima Natsuki, Miyawaki Sakura, Tatsuya Makiho, Yagura Fuko, Kawaei Rina)
    13. Naminori Kakigoori (Takahashi Minami, Muto Tomu, Maeda Ami, Ichikawa Manami)
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    14. Kurumi to Dialogue
    15. HA!
    16. Kataomoi Finally
    17. Melon Juice
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    MC
    18. Heart Ereki (Kojima Haruna, Nakata Chisato, Morikawa Ayaka, Matsui Sakiko)

    19. Beginner (Takahasi Minami, Iwata Karen, Maeda Ami, Ino Miyabi, Miyawaki Sakura, Nakamura Mariko, Ichikawa Manami, Fujita Nana, Nakanishi Chiyori)
    20. Show Fight!
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    21. Eien Pressure
    22. Shoujotachi yo
    23. Everyday, Katyusha
    24. Oogoe Diamond
    25. Anata ga ite kureta kara
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    ENCORE
    EN1. Team A Oshi
    EN2. Hikoukigumo
    EN3. AKB48
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    EN4. Kibouteki Refrain
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    (She got very good position of choreography even only for opening #don`t fooled its not center)
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    (if you want how good dance of someone just look her pose from behind)
    [This time is first time i watched lived version of Kibouteki Refrain and which Karen on it can make tastier than recording one. If they ever realize Karen is the only one member who can make every AKB song more colorful. In easy part to noticed that is ------unmei no HINTO darou------, that is really clear the different to original even it only live version]
    EN5. Koisuru Fortune Cookie
    WENCORE
    WEN. Heavy Rotation
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  5. Magickaito

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    From Natsu Matsuri Vol 9

    if the video does not show watch the video here
    (start from minutes 12)

    Look like a sudden request/demand becaused as I remembered there no Karen shedule to perform at day which she become Suuchan wota/ the day when member take Janken drawing. She still need more moral support to increased more her confidence. One of the reason they didn`t ready to perform you can look from they didn`t know which one should start the show. Their performance really good :v:especially the singing which already can be expected of 3 of them who able singing well and off course there are 2 good singer at there. Karen looks didn`t take it seriously but it still turn out very good. She able to show that her able to equivalent with one of the good singer at AKB (the one who can be said as elite from few of them). I still didn`t search which song they perform but it sound like volacoid. The one that make interesting is Karen play 2 different style at that song, aside of that which make every song she sing become interesting because she never always used the same style (character still same) for different song.

    For natsu matsuri potebari edition it will aired at December 21th(If im not mistake) although some of you already know what really happen at that time:hehe:.

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    it OOT but from that video you will also found out someone which can be said as diamond even in 48G.
    If I have been said that is SKE super kenkyuseii its tie for me to rectify it (i forgot that time) because compare to her there is someone more superior. She not only play music very well, can play many instrument, her singing is really good in talent(basic singer requirement) & technique also there is one that rarely have by everyone that is perfect pitch ability (eventhough I`m not to sure how much her perfectness but she has ability to it). But, she never have proper treatment.
     
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  6. kazu-kun

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    That's the opening for Evangelion, Cruel Angel's Thesis.
     
  7. Magickaito

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    Thanks for information:flower:, I will look into it.
     
  8. sweetygirl1994

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    The new cm for Oedo Onsen. This time with Karen, Takamina and Renacchi.


    if the video does not show watch the video here
     
  9. Magickaito

    Magickaito Kenkyuusei

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    She looks beautiful with that costume:inlove:
    By the way the time took to be aired its really long time almost half year
    (If I look this viedo I remember Karen has been said she want to keep her hair black and in my assumption you can find some of reason from those, not in the scene but bakground that those video taken)
    the only one that make sad:cry: is from some source it said the contract with onsen will end.
     
  10. Magickaito

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    (Still taken from Onsen CM, she said "it really make me want to cry")
    [Cry not always indiate that you are weak, cry an be proud is the one that dedicate for someone you really loved]

    Finally able to watched that video properly and there many mixed feeling:):inlove::cry::worthy: after watched that. I really grateful they aired something like that. It full warmness and if Karen have more time to talk with good quality like that her heart will be more strong and her confidence will be increased.

    This one of dialog that make me want to cry (just like Karen)
    Q: What is the current Karen Iwata's that interseting seen from Takahashi?

    T: You could enter dance senbatsu
    After all, it will come to Karen
    K: Is it true?
    T: It wil be come and it will be come
    ee, why are you like react like that, I can look into it
    K : ee, I reaaly hapy with that
    T: Properly, you know!
    Ah, that child dance is really good. They know it properly
    K : It make me want to cry
    All : Laugh
    T : Why?
    K : I really happy
    T : If you do your best from now yo can do it
    K : is it really true?
    T : so so so so...
    I really think like that and same with staff thinking
    K : I really happy
    T : So, for next you must also do your best ------------------(it cutted)
    (Maybe this english version dialog not really represent japanese one because the real feeling still got from original)

    [It Takamina herself said it then we can think that 'hope" have been raised again and also if Takamina said staff also think like that then maybe they waiting for right moment:idea: for Karen. Remaining talk also interesting so watched for yourself]

    Karen 2nd birthday letter for other member

    「十夢へ

    十夢、お誕生日おめでとう。

    十夢とはチームが同じになって、一緒にいる時間が増えてから更に仲良くなれたなって思ってるよ。

    12期では最年少の私と最年長の十夢。こんなに歳の差があるのに年上って思ったことがない、いい意味でね。

    十夢には真面目な話からくだらない話まで何でも話せるし、いつもなんだかんだいって一番頼りにしてます。

    いつもいじられてばっかりで色々言いたいことはあるけど今日だけは素直になります。十夢大好き。これからもよろしくね。

    チームA 岩田華怜


    Tomue

    Tomu, Happy Birthday.
    Becoming same team with Tomu, I thought our friendship become deeper from increased time that we spend together.
    Tomu as 12th gen oldest despite me as youngest, I never thought there is to much different in a age, in a good way.
    Talk from something worthless to serious one, somehow Tomu is the most reliable person
    Instead various one I want to tell like usual, for today I only say this obediently
    Tomu I love you.
    From now on, yoroshikune
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    From all 12th gen letter this is the most interseting one
    十夢へ

    Happy Birthday!

    またお家行くね。

    平田梨奈より
    :fp:(even Tomu complain about it)
     
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  11. Magickaito

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    Karen first victory :1st::banana:
    (Got from net so sorry for LQ image)
    More detail maybe yesterday waiting the video
     
  12. sweetygirl1994

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    Yaaaaaay, good job Karen. :1st::v:
    I have to watch that episode as soon as possible.
     
  13. Jokyng

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    they should make that a single
     
  14. Crossheart

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    Episode seen... Karen's song was awesome in many, BUT MANY ways.
     
  15. Magickaito

    Magickaito Kenkyuusei

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    I see what you want to say
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    Lets review those AKBingo episode,
    They open it with Yamada Nanami+Matsui Sakiko, its not bad song but its very kodomo-poi that need many touch in all part in addition (singing technique is not my main concern) but if she sing sing like that (bara bara) far from technique my ear get irritated. She still children so she can be better.

    For 4 main participant all of them singing good and for song they created (+music) are not bad but its like monotone (there no big different in verse and chorus/refrain) except for Karen that little different. From all participant that looks more like love song are Nachan & Hillary but with kind of attitude and melody chosen Nachan more like song. Hillary other problem is her mother tounge which really fluent but after mixed with Japanese her english little weird, She still fluent in english but its beome different from native speaker. Hillary will get more feel if she tried in full english (her Japanese not too deep). Karen & Chori choose same genre little catchy, not too serious in lyric.

    Lets talk about Karen song,
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    Nice opening moves (sono kao:fp::omfg:)
    Karen song is the most interesting one because it not all monotone or some part have different sytle. For verse one and two its have same melody/rhytm and for chorus/refrain part play in different style.
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    She paly with that technique also it give suprise effect
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    With this also give each opportunity to sing alone rather than always sing together,
    Also Karen give climax to this song [女子トイレ]. The conclusion/ending also interesting how they ontrol music and she sing in elegant way.

    Lets pay attention to some part of lyric
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    あなたが好きなんです
    いつも見てきした
    だけどそんなあなたが
    入って行ったのは
    女子トイレ
    初恋lady(あいつは女の子)
    初恋lady(あれが付いてない)
    初恋lady(おっばいぶら下げてる):censored:(They even said it too vulgar)
    初恋lady Ah
    これがゴリラの大失恋

    I like, always see you but when I see you entering (woman toilet) I relaize that you are woman and its unlucky for me
    Lady First Love (......:censored:......)
    This is large heartbreak of gorilla
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    Gorilla
    nakama
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    Yatta, First Victory for Karen (tight battle which only gap for 1 point)
    [Victory isn`t everything but at least she able to fell how really sweat winning after bitter lose. She deserved to it after so much hadwork she did. Also something like this will make her more motivated]
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    Look her reaction get the prize:lol:
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    Someone who really respect her with all of her heart help Queen karen wear coat

    For the last, even it didn`t resemble love song or have romanti lyric but I`m really relieved that she able to do this very well aside her minimal experience of couple love and little "weird taste" of her. This song is like common song in term of composition and she able sing her own song very well. Recently, I like some her way of singing how to onnent current lines to next lines withous put full break (this osng also have it). In the end this song Karen-poi, very interesting and if many people vote for it then I only say "Yokatta".
     
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    And, Karen's segment now translated by AEsubs

     
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    I was speechless.

    Forget Charice, this is better by a thousand miles.
     
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    Wait wait wait,does she meant coming out as coming out as lesbian or it's a way of speaking?
     
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    I guess that is a way of...
    *Remembers the honest chess with Okada Nana...
    well... is more like...
    *Remembers that Karen recently says that she has the Keys for Suuchan house...
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    (Source: http://xxxakaskorpion.tumblr.com/ )
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    Karen is Karen, that is all!!!
     
  20. Samara Morgane

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    I'm browsing through the akb tag on tumblr and I fell on translation of one of her G+ post and she was talking about it!She was saying something like she did fell for that girl that had a weirdo but apparently other girls liked her too!She even got asked again by one of the other members if she was homosexual and said she wasn't!She's just a normal girl that fell for captain Levi!

    It kinda crushed my hope!It would have been really nice if it were true!But I did remember the shoujiki!Maybe she's trying to cover up a little so that some fan won't get butt hurt?*sigh* I'm confuse!It's true that Karen and Karen but if she were actually gay,I think it would fit!I'm not saying she look gay or anything but that would fit her character somehow!Making Karen more Karen if that makes sense!Though,it might be just me that wish that's not some kind of fluke!Maybe she's bi?
     

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