AKB48 Team 8 (Idols who go meet you project x Toyota)

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  1. Rurouni

    Rurouni Stage48 Moderator Staff Member Stage48 Moderator

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    That is because you're thinking about focusing the choreo for 16 people in the beginning. It doesn't have to be like that. Of course if you insist on having to always perform with 16 members then I actually like what they are doing right now (before the shuffle). Basically have other team members as helper. Kennin is to make the team into more or less a 16nin team but helper will still be needed. I know that not many would agree with me but that is my preference.
     
  2. Aka

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    It really depends. Obviously these girls go to different schools, each school has its own rules, its own schedule. And some are just smarter than others. You have periods of time when some of them spend most of their time in Tokyo, even for weeks, but they're usually busy. Sometimes a Nagi performance with Team B came out of nowhere. It's not that common. But AKB4 teams don't have many performances lately, so it's hard to tell how it's going to be with the new teams. And let's not forget that a few eitos have a schedule as bad as a senbatsu member. I wonder if Onishi does have time for theatre performances. I don't really want to see Team 8 having less performances of theirs (they have a lot more than the other teams) so that they can be in AKB4 kouen. Something that people tend to forget is that each girl learn one or two positions in a stage, so you have to take that in consideration too when selecting the 16 members of a performance.

    Ever since Atsuko graduated, with every shuffle they try to recreate the Acchan-ace/Takamina-captain pair on Team A. This time they made two: Yuihan-Miion and Berin-Yuiyui.

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    It depends on the month.

    https://www.akb48.co.jp/theater/schedule

    Team 8 is doing a bit less lately, but still more than the other teams. Summer belonged to them. The 16th gen were doing a lot but not as much in December. You see, we've been having a lot of special stages because the teams don't have enough members to perform regularly.



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  3. azuki

    azuki Kenkyuusei

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    You do realize the choreo is going to change if it's not 16 people right? And if you want to create 1 choreo for 12, 13, 14, 15 member versions, multiplied by all the songs... Logistically speaking this is beyond what simple dumping of cash can create. You're asking members to memorize 6 interactions/dance positions per song based on attendance.

    Also when it comes to choreo changes, it's not a simple "Oh 1 person's missing so maybe space out a little to cover up the gap" kind of thing. It may work for some songs, but not all. Transition paths? Balance of composition? Will it fit the theme of the song? Are there significant meanings behind each "unit" within the song performance? There's the artistic element behind that you can't just ignore.
     
  4. Hiei Harukkusu

    Hiei Harukkusu Kenkyuusei

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    I already read her translated interview regarding her becoming an idol, yup, the one long time ago.

    She said there being an idol is her dream, and reading Hiichan's interview, she said Nanamin even before then talks like an idol. So yes she loves being an idol.

    But the thing is, she has reached that dream, and I'm a new fan of Team 8 but by reading her thread so as this one, I can tell she isn't faring well, she's not that popular unlike Hiji who saw progress this year in top 100 SSK.

    So perhaps having achieved her dream, she feels contented now? She's entering college too soon right?

    I saw your post too in her thread where you said she looked sad.

    It would suck to see her graduate though. The only thing I am banking on is her future goal of being an actress. She needs to gain a strong following being an idol so that she won't face more hardship once she turns as a full-fledged actress. But then again, that's the problem. Her following isn't getting stronger, or I could be wrong.

    I'm amazed though you guys here know a lot. Like Aka mentioning Nagi lives in Asakihawa.

    Senpais.
     
  5. Lt-weetabix

    Lt-weetabix Kenkyuusei

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    This guy knows everything. He probably knows her Dental appoints before Nagi even knows herself!

    Then again this information is on her biopage :blush:
    http://stage48.net/wiki/index.php/Sakaguchi_Nagisa (Asakihawa)

    He still probably knows alot more though!
     
  6. nvmea

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    sometimes I feel like @Aka even knows which school Nagi attends. Surely that's outrageous.

    @Hiei Harukkusu I'm trying not to be overly harsh on the girls, because we never know what goes on in their personal lives. She's just been acting "strange" for a long time (cutting her hair, almost no campaign for SSK, then suddenly doing Showroom every day sometimes even at 5 AM, starting to wear extensions to return to her previous hair length, stopping her everyday SR before Eito no Hi, doing in total 3 streams in the next 3 months, sometimes disappearing for days from all SNS...) Also Kasumin graduating must have affected her as well.
    Well maybe she uses private mail to communicate all the clues I'm missing in the story (it's possible because she's heavy on it and has these special days once a month when she tries to send 100+ mails). idk if there is something that doesn't allow her to do as much as she would like, maybe it's just school. She didn't write anything about the kennin, though from 755 comments it seems she did in private mail. Also she did write few days ago for people to buy the 2-shot events which are April-June. I doubt she'd announce graduation so far ahead so that's a bit reassuring. The kennin and possibly bigger time freedom (by losing all those jobs in Fukushima:awesome:) could be a new impulse for her so let's see.

    I was merely stating her objective qualities in terms of her adaptability to the group and her being accepted by her peers.
    But her catchphrase is some next level stuff.
    she had time for Minerva. She'll have time for Okada. Anyway, she still have days when she's completely free.
     
  7. lionel90

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  8. Aka

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    It's not like they ever hide that fact...

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    Is that another joke on how certain member resembles her?

    Actually, it wasn't like that until recently. I still wonder who did it.

    I-I...

    What can I say? I have a thing for fax machines.

    She used to smile all the time, to have that flirting attitude, her kiss you character. Now she seems dead.

    Oh of course, her objective qualities...

    Objectively... she only streams and shoots the Kansai show.
     
  9. leocgomes

    leocgomes Member Stage48 Donor

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    Well, I would need to know both cities as well as her to answer that one. For now, all I can say is that choosing a city to live/work may depend on several factors including personal preferences.

    But basically what I was trying to say is that there can be options.

    It was a different situation, wasn't it?

    Why? What happened?

    It may depend on what led her to it. And if you like short hair or not. :)

    I wouldn't be so sure about that.

    Not necessarily, right? You can just adapt it.

    Wasn't/isn't Keyakizaka doing something like this because one of the members is/was in a hiatus?
     
  10. nvmea

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    I'm not the one who writes things like

    we can change that. Vote for Private Summer!
    we can change that. Vote for Private Summer!
    we can change that. Vote for Private Summer!
     
  11. SunnyHighland

    SunnyHighland Next Girls

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    Yukina the would be dentist says hi :D
    I wonder where her younger sister will end up. She has the power to make people oshihen. Maybe like nvmea from Gyoten or Hidaaya :hehe:

    As for Nanamin, she look dead nowadays :| Is she depressed like Haruppi? I hope she can revert back to her character after this. She used to be one of the prominent Tohoku member.
     
  12. nigamushiotoko

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    It's a win-win solution
    AKB48 get their proper team numbers
    more peoples having interest to eito
    unpopular eitos get more stages
    and Team 8 stopped the graduation wave!

    Forget about CD debut. Team 8 total domination's movement entering the new level.

    I predicted there will be at least 5 eitos who will be a regular senbatsu in the next 1-2 years

    from which show is that?

    she's just matured






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  13. Hiei Harukkusu

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    I'm surprised though Nagi is okay with that. But that's one way of telling her fans to come visit her city too. Go there for Nagi, or something like that.

    @nvmea, you noticed a lot of things sir. I think Nanamin might not be that happy so she is acting like that. She cut her hair too; well it made her round face more pronounced, so I was not surprised she'd use hair extension. Either way she's pretty though. She's prettier now that she's turning 18 compared to when she was younger. In contrast I'd say Hiichan and Hiji were really cute during their 14-15 years old days.

    I checked Nanamin's 755 early this morning, and it was quite bland too. There's not that much posts. Nanamin, apparenlty is competitive, she wants center spot too, so she had no choice but try for it last training camp, and lose.

    She has a cool mother though, moral support can help, perhaps. But like you've said she has activities scheduled for mid-2018, so she's staying still.

    A question about the shuffle, how demanding is the work of a team captain? I'm thinking Rin has to prioritize A over 8, so perhaps full transfer to A is a possibility?
    Or she could just fail as a captain and focus once more on 8?
     
  14. Rurouni

    Rurouni Stage48 Moderator Staff Member Stage48 Moderator

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    A quick answer on this. You don't have make the performance scale. You just target a certain number an perform always with that formation. If they only have enough to consistently perform with 12nin then make a stage for 12nin. Meaning, artistic, etc thing should be fine. One of the best pre RH concert last year was 13th gen performance and they performed with less than 10nin.

    I prefer for at least some of them transferred and apparently not many liked the idea. But that was a comment about the whole Team 8 do kennin. Personally I think making Berin a captain mostly because they do this all Team 8 kennin and not specifically to captain Team A. So basically to captain eitos. Of course she will still captain Team A, but running Team A shouldn't pose a problem. Yuihan will still be there and you've got Miion in there. The biggest problem I see on Team A is not about Berin captaincy but who will run the show when senbatsu members are busy? Remove Berin, Yuihan, Miion, Yuiyui, Annin, Renacchi (I assume Berin will be a senbatsu lock, although not 100% sure, maybe 90%. She is not Team KB4 captain, she is Team A captain), so who will run the show? Myao? Ayanan? Moekyun? Also I don't think they can perform with 16nin on weekdays when senbatsu members aren't available.
    Then again, I don't think captain is really that important for theater performance, so I guess it wouldn't matter much.

    What I'm waiting to see is Team K and 4. Team K for the performance and 4 for growth. B is okay if you like mostly AKB members, but it looked really normal. I actually think members that aren't already popular probably should avoid Team A because you know that top level management only cared about the stars on Team A. Look at what happened to Yokoyama Team A? Only Myao, Annin, and Yuihan left from Yokoyama A. Their young members are all out, which is probably for the better so they can grow in other teams instead of getting stuck on A.
     
  15. SunnyHighland

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    What is interesting for me, the management deliberately put only 22 members in A, which mostly consists of senbatsu members and far away eitos. Is the management stupid enough to form a team that can hardly perform, even captained by a kennin? How will this team work, I think we just need to be patient and see.
    A quick answer to your question is, continue the special stages and don't do Team A stage if not enough can perform. On the other hand we will have one less stage, it's not like Yuiri KKS stage will continue because most of them are no longer KKS.
    Though, this is a discussion for the shuffle thread.

    Well of course, IMO that will degrade T8 as a feeder team rather than a proper part of AKB with different system and concept. What's the difference with KKS then? And what is the point of becoming an eito? To be popular enough that you will be deemed worthy to properly join AKB4? No wonder they frequently feel like some fans treat them as 2nd class AKB, even compared to KKS. I have said my points considering the economic value of that idea though.
    It will be different if the member herself decide that she no longer can function properly as an eito and decide to graduate from the team but still want to be part of team A/K/B/4. I don't know if that is possible or not.
     
  16. azuki

    azuki Kenkyuusei

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    Like I mentioned... doing too many adaptations isn't a good thing. There's a limit to how much members can memorize, as well as adapt. Don't forget they may very well end up doing different stages the next day. Nara -> Theatre was bad enough for Ikumi to forget her position already.

    I rest my case... in terms of performance logistics, you guys are seriously underestimating the duties of the background staff. If it was that simple, why didn't they do it earlier? If it's going to be cheaper, faster, and more efficient overall, why didn't management change all performances to just 12~15 people? Why is it more efficient to kennin existing potential? Think about that.

    The comparison with 13th gen doesn't stand. With the graduation of certain members, that's it. It's impossible to back-fill an old generation. But with theatre performances, it is possible. Japan is also extremely conventional in their thinking, and they won't break such traditions of 16 man units unless it's impossible, like with older gens. As long as an alternative is present, they will always find ways to make it 16.

    Transferring members to A,K,B,4 doesn't make sense at all.
    1) You lost control over your strong members
    2) You need to hold auditions all over again and train new kids
    3) The new kids have to fight with the expectations and results left behind by transferred members
    4) Brand loyalty to the member. Fans of the member will likely not support the new girls as long as their oshi still remains.
    5) With all the above you'll end up with a half-dead member who's never gonna get popular.
     
  17. Aka

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    You'd have to change your house, you'd have to change your school, you'd have to change your daily routines, you'd have to change everything. What difference does it make if it's Tokyo, Fukuoka, Beijing, Mumbai, Kinshasa, Inverness, Ljubljana, Porto Alegre, Tijuana or Edmonton? It could even be the neighbour town: a change is a change. So, if you have to change why Fukuoka instead of Tokyo itself? Why HKT instead of AKB?

    No, it's exactly the same. They wanted her to move from Tokyo to Nagoya. She said no. She had her life in Tokyo.

    Kanko Taishi.

    It should've ended with Kegarete iru Shinjitsu.

    Yokochan is from Hirosaki, Serika is from Suita, Hijirin is from a shithole, and many others. They still live at home, they attend their local school. People talk. So why even bother?


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    I swear I'm gonna kill Serika...
     
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  18. SunnyHighland

    SunnyHighland Next Girls

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    Thanks for today's video, the HD vid and pics have not all released yet? :p

    Wait...what, what have she done? *drawing my MacLeod sword* Better you go to Tokyo, your oshimen is performing there, don't come close to Serika.
    Better you post what Serika did to Nagi here
     
  19. Hiei Harukkusu

    Hiei Harukkusu Kenkyuusei

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    Okay, thanks though. I'm saving these info.
     
  20. Aka

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    No, thanks to you.

    Ask @nvmea.


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