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Single AKB48 61st single [Doushitemo Kimi ga Suki da] - (2023/04/26)

Discussion in 'AKB48 News & Releases' started by lionel90, Feb 27, 2023.

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i'm happy with this senbatsu. But I keep dreaming of Yui at the center again

I love the song too, idol vibes ♥♥

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Ellethe said: ↑

i'm happy with this senbatsu. But I keep dreaming of Yui at the center again

I love the song too, idol vibes ♥♥
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I'm very excited for theatre performances, especially a Yuiyui center with Team B or Zukky with Team K

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lucamodric said: ↑

lol an idol member literally begging people to buy tickets to talk with her. ok i hate being the one mentioning you know, the korean idol scene, but they do things well there. they don't line up people at a big hall like an idol is some product you can shake hands with, they do a fan meet do they not? i know you have to be lucky to be able to participate and the model may not bring in as much money, but the way akb seems to do it, i've always felt uneasy. it also create pressure and unhealthy standoff-ish atmosphere you know. i sold more than her etc. not good for young girls imo. i stan yuiri and i know she had problems when she was young and had to deal with sousenkyo and comparing yourself to other girls jazz. so yeah i much prefer 'not everyone gets to meet the idol' but small number, more cozy vibes fan-meet of, you know, the korean idol scene.
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You would have been very naive to think there is no such competition and animosity between kpop idols. Heck there have been rumours even such animosity are strong even if they are from the same group, for certain groups. Kpop idols are less close to each other than jpop idols are, at least apparently. Competitions are everywhere. They just manifest differently.

(Entertainment industries all over the world are damaging to teenagers. Teenage idols in Korea are forced to undergo PS. Look at won young and her buccal fat removal. Even in hollywood. Just look at former disney stars. Some child actors also went on to abuse drugs. Unfortunately that is the way. I am not advocating for or against such practices, but it is not unique to Jpop unfortunately).

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donjonnie said: ↑

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dance cover by PanDance Studio

if the video does not show watch the video here
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PanDance Studio did the full version! from 3:30 ~

if the video does not show watch the video here
They only had about 3 hours to practice, so it's a bit rough, but still pretty impressive!
There's a bit of Nemohamo at the end too, seems like they like it.

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lionel90 said: ↑

And ?
What suits you doesn't suit everyone.
Also if you could accept that you aren't alone and cut your constant Kpop compare it would ease the discussion.

did you understand everything in the 1st teaser ?
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And? What suits you doesn't suit everyone. Back in IZ*One, Hii also was criticized for her vocal tone. If you could accept that you aren't alone and cut your constant K-pop hatred, it would ease the discussion.

Yes? I know that DH nor UMG has released nothing telling that UMG would ever produce song/mv/etc. for AKB48.

FlowingColors said: ↑

Out of interest; Conversely, do K-Pop fans also discuss that their group's songs are too J-Pop'ish?
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I remember Gfriend was criticized for Japanese fetish in "Glass Bead" with those short shorts (aka bloomers), which members said they were embarrassing to dance in. I'm not sure if the criticism came solely from oversea fans or Korean ones too. Members sounded oblivious that the shorts came out of shonen manga. A possibility is that K general public too did not catch the Japanese reference.

The Korean tends to assume everything originates in Korea unless it obviously is not the case. And, anything that is in-your-face J-pop usually is not palatable to the Korean. Most very J-pop Korean groups are irrelevant thus, no one discusses on them.

souchan48 said: ↑

It will happen as long as that one certain member continuously brings this up. I dont mind and i dont have problem with welp. But tbh only he brings kpop into every discussion.

I have difficulty seeing the differences between 2 videos welp share. So they use a lot of hands, so? What is kpop abt it?

There are ways to elevate suspense in cute songs:
a) making members do tacky things but remember to connect it at the end (aka coherence and ending). even if the ending is so tacky and it does not make sense, it will even be better.
B) use background scenery that is not so common (japanese has a lot of hidden gems), make them interact with them)
C) color grading and teaming members up
D) over-used in japanese mv but: storyline

I believe many japanese fans would be enraged if they releases korean version IkemenSteelD and speaking/singing english is difficult for most members. (Turning away remaining fans with purchasing power isnt exactly a wise thing to do)
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I'm confident I'm not the one saying MotoKare nor the title song of this very single sound K-pop.

You cannot even differentiate between tutting and regular J-pop dance. No use to discuss further.

For A) Perhaps, if the rest of the MV is already good and this 'the beginning is the end' motif is executed well, perhaps, the impressiveness will be increased by 20%.
B) Did you mean Easter eggs? Again, similar to A) it must be done cleverly to be effective.
C) They already color graded the MV? I can see how teaming members up may be interesting unless you mean queerbait/shipping.
D) Since, just you said, they used this a lot, the story or the way they tell the story must be very good for it to work. Storyline is the worst part in Nemohamo MV. Usually, the story line comes with sentimental song?

English accent can be forged. XG's members have developed fair accents but, indeed, only 1 of them can communicate in English.

Jurinavenclaw said: ↑

Its not unusual for KPop groups to release a Japanese version since they want to get a slice out of the Japanese music market, the 2nd biggest music industry in the world. It doesn't really make much sense for a Japanese artist or group, though, to release Korean versions since the South Korean market is not even in the top 5.

If AKB wants to appeal to the international market using the KPop formula, I don't think it's the language that they need to copy. Maybe their management should buy the catchiest poptunes they can afford from the US or Europe, hire world famous choreographers, and let the girls practice the song and the dance for months till they can perform it with robotic precision and synchronization. That is hoping it coincides with a Japanese government program with the main purpose of promoting Japan pop culture overseas.
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You should ask yourself why Avex releases a JAPANESE group in Korea and, why LDH collaborates with HYBE. Think twice.

Is the problem DH cannot access to catchy tune or, cannot tell what is catchy tune? Do you think it is difficult to hire American or European music producers? And, if they can get their hands on a catchy tune, can senbatsu members sing it live? Practice for months? If a singer cannot hit a high note, by attempting to screech out daily without proper coaching, do you think the singer will develop vocal skill or vocal nodule? The same applies to choreography. NO choreographer always make good choreography. Can DH tell what is good? Can the member execute it?

If we are to talk about K-pop level of practice, it will be something like 5 hours+ of dance practice + ~2 hours of voice practice + 1-2 hour of fitness workout = ~10 hours for 6 days a week. I heard that theater activity was very time consuming and, there is handshake event too. Someone also may have to go to school. Where is the time to do all these?

rmn89 said: ↑

damn produce 48. lol just make people keep comparing akb with K-Pop. its kinda sad bcs i always love Jpop because they always have their own “voice”. while K pop for me sounds like any Pop songs sung in korean language. did singers like Yui, Utada Hikaru, Ayumi Hamasaki, Arashi need to compared to Kpop to be taken seriously?. if we want to talk about current pop, does Yoasobi and Fujii Kaze sounds like K Pop? . give me a break. let Akb be Akb. comparison is getting tiring. Kpop wont last anyway. just see in couple of years.
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Did NHK invite 3 K-pop girl groups to Kouhaku because of Produce 48?

while K pop for me sounds like any Pop songs sung in korean
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I guess this is why I keep seeing wota complain a 48 song sounds K-pop?

did singers like Yui, Utada Hikaru, Ayumi Hamasaki, Arashi need to compared to Kpop to be taken seriously?. if we want to talk about current pop, does Yoasobi and Fujii Kaze sounds like K Pop?
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Has any of them been on Billboard Hot 100? Has any of them landed in top 50 of UK/German chart?

Kpop wont last anyway
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I think this criticism has been around since 2010? Still, there are K-pop artists on Billboard Hot 100 chart 13 later. When was J-pop era? early 90's to mid 00's? So, K-pop has longer longevity? (Late 00's to early 20 and counting.)

bonjourmarlene said: ↑

There are pros and cons to both sides.

The Japanese model is much better for fans, as in K-Pop, you need to buy multiple albums for even a chance to win a single session. Meanwhile, for J-Pop, you can apply directly and you only have to spend money if you actually win a talk session.

Besides, I've applied for Le Sserafim previously and won, and while I didn't get to choose, I only got to meet one member and not the whole group either. I got to meet Chaewon, whom I like a lot thanks to IZ*ONE, but I couldn't help but think that I would have preferred Sakura. I obviously didn't say that to Chaewon, but imagine if I she found out and how that would make her feel.

One reason why I don't think you can compare AKB with the K-Pop Hi-touch model though is that AKB has 80 members, whereas K-Pop groups tend to have 4-12 members. You can't possibly offer fans to meet all members in one session, not even per team. You'd have to make units, and then people would still only buy the ones for members they like.

Besides, in Hi-touch sessions, I've often heard of fans who only talk to their bias and then walk past the other members without even saying hello. What's worse for your mental health, not seeing a lot of fans line up, or seeing fans talk to your band member right next to you and then walk past you without even looking at you?

Of course, neither is great for self-confidence, but personally, I think it would be better to only meet fans who are actually interested in you and even if it's, let's say dramatically, 5 people who come to talk to you, you know at least these 5 people wanted to come and see you specifically.
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I believe they are fans who like K-pop way better.

In K-pop, a fan is supposed to like every members of the group albeit in varying degrees or, he/she is a cancel-worthy akgae. So, an individual idol does not mind that much knowing she/he is not your 'bias', you still like her/him anyway. They are clips of K-pop idols teasing fans who have another member as bias.

If DH is determined to, it can do K-pop like talk event dividing members accordingly to their teams.

I can't be certain what format is better to the mental health of individual idols, mind that each individual has different preference, but the very 'in-your-face' disparity of AKB surely undermines 'teamwork', which is more essential on the Korean side. Overall, Korean culture is extremely collective, group oriented.

souchan48 said: ↑

You would have been very naive to think there is no such competition and animosity between kpop idols. Heck there have been rumours even such animosity are strong even if they are from the same group, for certain groups. Kpop idols are less close to each other than jpop idols are, at least apparently. Competitions are everywhere. They just manifest differently.

(Entertainment industries all over the world are damaging to teenagers. Teenage idols in Korea are forced to undergo PS. Look at won young and her buccal fat removal. Even in hollywood. Just look at former disney stars. Some child actors also went on to abuse drugs. Unfortunately that is the way. I am not advocating for or against such practices, but it is not unique to Jpop unfortunately).
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So, your conclusion based on "rumours", selective ones too? And, did you seriously believe AKB's members did not go under knives?

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And? What suits you doesn't suit everyone. Back in IZ*One, Hii also was criticized for her vocal tone. If you could accept that you aren't alone and cut your constant K-pop hatred, it would ease the discussion.

Yes? I know that DH nor UMG has released nothing telling that UMG would ever produce song/mv/etc. for AKB48.

I remember Gfriend was criticized for Japanese fetish in "Glass Bead" with those short shorts (aka bloomers), which members said they were embarrassing to dance in. I'm not sure if the criticism came solely from oversea fans or Korean ones too. Members sounded oblivious that the shorts came out of shonen manga. A possibility is that K general public too did not catch the Japanese reference.

The Korean tends to assume everything originates in Korea unless it obviously is not the case. And, anything that is in-your-face J-pop usually is not palatable to the Korean. Most very J-pop Korean groups are irrelevant thus, no one discusses on them.

I'm confident I'm not the one saying MotoKare nor the title song of this very single sound K-pop.

You cannot even differentiate between tutting and regular J-pop dance. No use to discuss further.

For A) Perhaps, if the rest of the MV is already good and this 'the beginning is the end' motif is executed well, perhaps, the impressiveness will be increased by 20%.
B) Did you mean Easter eggs? Again, similar to A) it must be done cleverly to be effective.
C) They already color graded the MV? I can see how teaming members up may be interesting unless you mean queerbait/shipping.
D) Since, just you said, they used this a lot, the story or the way they tell the story must be very good for it to work. Storyline is the worst part in Nemohamo MV. Usually, the story line comes with sentimental song?

English accent can be forged. XG's members have developed fair accents but, indeed, only 1 of them can communicate in English.

You should ask yourself why Avex releases a JAPANESE group in Korea and, why LDH collaborates with HYBE. Think twice.

Is the problem DH cannot access to catchy tune or, cannot tell what is catchy tune? Do you think it is difficult to hire American or European music producers? And, if they can get their hands on a catchy tune, can senbatsu members sing it live? Practice for months? If a singer cannot hit a high note, by attempting to screech out daily without proper coaching, do you think the singer will develop vocal skill or vocal nodule? The same applies to choreography. NO choreographer always make good choreography. Can DH tell what is good? Can the member execute it?

If we are to talk about K-pop level of practice, it will be something like 5 hours+ of dance practice + ~2 hours of voice practice + 1-2 hour of fitness workout = ~10 hours for 6 days a week. I heard that theater activity was very time consuming and, there is handshake event too. Someone also may have to go to school. Where is the time to do all these?

Did NHK invite 3 K-pop girl groups to Kouhaku because of Produce 48?

I guess this is why I keep seeing wota complain a 48 song sounds K-pop?

Has any of them been on Billboard Hot 100? Has any of them landed in top 50 of UK/German chart?

I think this criticism has been around since 2010? Still, there are K-pop artists on Billboard Hot 100 chart 13 later. When was J-pop era? early 90's to mid 00's? So, K-pop has longer longevity? (Late 00's to early 20 and counting.)

I believe they are fans who like K-pop way better.

In K-pop, a fan is supposed to like every members of the group albeit in varying degrees or, he/she is a cancel-worthy akgae. So, an individual idol does not mind that much knowing she/he is not your 'bias', you still like her/him anyway. They are clips of K-pop idols teasing fans who have another member as bias.

If DH is determined to, it can do K-pop like talk event dividing members accordingly to their teams.

I can't be certain what format is better to the mental health of individual idols, mind that each individual has different preference, but the very 'in-your-face' disparity of AKB surely undermines 'teamwork', which is more essential on the Korean side. Overall, Korean culture is extremely collective, group oriented.

So, your conclusion based on "rumours", selective ones too? And, did you seriously believe AKB's members did not go under knives?
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I guess it's the time of the year again for the annual pointless K-Pop vs. J-Pop discussion

Anyway ... offtopic ... if you really, really, really feel the need to 'discuss' this, open a thread in Idol Emporium

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brilliant. lol i guess its obvious wheres that one dislike came from .

i think this single its a good comeback to oldschool AKB style. i wish something colorful MV ,upbeat, and cheerful song for next single .(Hebirote, Kimiwamelody, Sayonaracrawl, Koichun) type. And Ninagawa Mika needs to direct the MV.

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rmn89 said: ↑

brilliant. lol i guess its obvious wheres that one dislike came from .
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FYI, and for the sake of fairness, not from who you think it is

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4th sales
From 04/03 to 04/07
https://official-cd.akb48.co.jp/61st/

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rmn89 said: ↑

i think this single its a good comeback to oldschool AKB style. i wish something colorful MV ,upbeat, and cheerful song for next single .(Hebirote, Kimiwamelody, Sayonaracrawl, Koichun) type. And Ninagawa Mika needs to direct the MV.
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I also don't understand the quality of recent MVs either. I mean, I know their single sales are really that high like before but they are not really that far off from other 46 groups and 46 groups do seem to have better MV quality...

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61st Single (Doushite mo Kimi ga Suki da) - 3rd Sale 4th Round (29th to 30th of March 2023)

Legend:
sold-out IRL dates/available IRL dates + sold-out online dates/available online dates = combined dates (+/–difference from previous round) Member Name

Example:
01/30 + 23/24 = 24/54 (+02) Oguri Yui (29+1=30 slots nearly sold out)
Yui has 30 slots available IRL and sold out one of them. She has 24 dates available online, and has sold out 23 of them. This makes a total of 24 out of 54 sold out. The number in brackets signifies the difference from the previous round (i.e. 2 more than previously). The numbers in brackets after the name show how many dates IRL + online = total only have a few tickets left to win/nearly sold out.

17/30 + 24/24 = 41/54 (+00) Honda Hitomi (3+0=3 slots nearly sold out)
01/30 + 14/24 = 15/54 (+02) Mukaichi Mion (0+3=3 slots nearly sold out)
04/30 + 16/20 = 20/50 (+03) Iwatate Saho (0+1=1 slot nearly sold out)
02/30 + 03/20 = 05/50 (+00) Chiba Erii (
06/20 + 24/24 = 30/44 (+00) Okabe Rin (2+0=2 slots nearly sold out)
00/24 + 00/16 = 00/40 (+00) Nagano Serika
03/18 + 06/12 = 09/30 (+00) Shimizu Maria (0+3=3 slot nearly sold out)
00/18 + 01/12 = 01/30 (+01) Muto Orin (0+1=1 slot nearly sold out)
00/18 + 00/12 = 00/30 (+00) Komiyama Haruka
00/16 + 00/08 = 00/24 (+00) Fukuoka Seina
00/10 + 00/08 = 00/20 (+00) Otake Hitomi (0+1=1 slot nearly sold out)
00/12 + 00/08 = 00/20 (+00) Takahashi Sayaka
00/12 + 00/08 = 00/20 (+00) Nakanishi Chiyori
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Saito Haruna
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Ma Chia-Ling
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Michieda Saki
00/00 + 00/00 = 00/00 (+00) Yoshihashi Yuzuka

02/30 + 17/24 = 19/54 (+04) Yamauchi Mizuki
00/30 + 13/24 = 13/54 (+01) Oda Erina
02/30 + 08/20 = 10/50 (+01) Mogi Shinobu (0+1=1 slot nearly sold out)
00/30 + 04/20 = 04/50 (+00) Taguchi Manaka (0+2=2 slots nearly sold out)
02/24 + 02/16 = 04/40 (+01) Yamane Suzuha
06/20 + 12/12 = 18/32 (+00) Onishi Momoka
00/18 + 00/12 = 00/30 (+00) Takahashi Ayane
01/12 + 00/08 = 01/20 (+00) Hattori Yuna (0+1=1 slot nearly sold out)
00/12 + 00/08 = 00/20 (+00) Kobayashi Ran
00/12 + 00/08 = 00/20 (+00) Shimoguchi Hinana
00/06 + 01/04 = 01/10 (+01) Yamabe Ayu
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Ichikawa Manami
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Uemi Sorano
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Okuhara Hinako
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Yumoto Ami

30/30 + 24/24 = 54/54 (+00) Oguri Yui (2nd Sale 1st Round SOLD OUT)
01/30 + 10/20 = 11/50 (+00) Sakaguchi Nagisa (0+4=4 slots nearly sold out)
00/30 + 05/20 = 05/50 (+00) Asai Nanami (0+2=2 slots nearly sold out)
00/30 + 03/19 = 03/49 (+00) Omori Maho (0+3=3 slot nearly sold out)
24/24 + 24/24 = 48/48 (+00) Kashiwagi Yuki (2nd Sale 1st Round SOLD OUT)
01/24 + 00/16 = 01/40 (+00) Suzuki Kurumi (0+2=2 slots nearly sold out)
00/12 + 03/12 = 03/24 (+01) Hashimoto Haruna
00/12 + 01/12 = 01/24 (+00) Shinozaki Ayana
00/12 + 00/12 = 00/24 (+00) Sato Minami
00/12 + 00/12 = 00/24 (+00) Tokunaga Remi (0+1=1 slot nearly sold out)
00/12 + 00/08 = 00/20 (+00) Ishiwata Sena
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Kitazawa Saki
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Hidaritomo Ayaka
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Fujizono Rei
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Yamada Kyoka

30/30 + 24/24 = 54/54 (+00) Murayama Yuiri (2nd Sale 1st Round SOLD OUT)
19/30 + 24/24 = 43/54 (+00) Kuranoo Narumi (1+0=1 slot nearly sold out)
00/30 + 03/20 = 03/50 (+01) Taniguchi Megu
00/30 + 10/10 = 10/40 (+00) Shitao Miu
00/24 + 03/16 = 03/40 (+01) Nagatomo Ayami
00/18 + 00/12 = 00/30 (+00) Gyoten Yurina
00/18 + 00/12 = 00/30 (+00) Sakagawa Hiyuka
00/18 + 00/12 = 00/30 (+00) Tada Kyoka
01/12 + 00/12 = 01/24 (+01) Sasaki Yukari (1+0=1 slot nearly sold out)
00/12 + 00/12 = 00/24 (+00) Yoshikawa Nanase
00/12 + 00/08 = 00/20 (+00) Omori Miyuu
00/12 + 00/08 = 00/20 (+00) Okada Rina
00/12 + 00/08 = 00/20 (+00) Kurosu Haruka
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Utada Hatsuka
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Takaoka Kaoru
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Kahawara Misaki
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Sato Kiara
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Yoshida Karen

00/24 + 09/16 = 09/40 (+01) Hashimoto Eriko (1+0=1 slot nearly sold out)
00/24 + 08/16 = 08/40 (+01) Sato Airi
01/18 + 06/12 = 07/30 (+03) Mizushima Miyuu
01/18 + 01/12 = 02/30 (+01) Yamazaki Sora (0+2=2 slots nearly sold out)
00/12 + 03/08 = 03/20 (+00) Masai Mayuu (0+1=1 slot nearly sold out)
01/12 + 01/08 = 02/20 (+01) Ota Yuki
01/12 + 01/08 = 02/20 (+02) Hotei Moka
00/12 + 01/08 = 01/20 (–02) Hirata Yuki (1+1=2 slots nearly sold out)
00/12 + 00/08 = 00/20 (+00) Kohama Kokone
00/06 + 01/04 = 01/10 (+00) Hatakeyama Nozomi

Total: 157/1,226 + 309/873 = 466/2,099 [22.20% of all tickets sold] (+25 since previous round)
Team A: 033/288 + 088/208 = 121/496 [24.40%*]
Team K: 014/248 + 056/172 = 070/420 [16.67%*]
Team B: 056/252 + 070/195 = 126/447 [28.19%*]
Team 4: 050/288 + 064/198 = 114/486 [23.46%*]
Kenkyuusei: 004/150 + 031/100 = 035/250 [14.00%*]

Comparison with 60th Single (3rd Sale 4th Round)
Total: N/A

*Note: The percentage of tickets sold is based solely on sold-out slots. The actual number is probably higher but inaccessible to the public.

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bonjourmarlene said: ↑

I'm very excited for theatre performances, especially a Yuiyui center with Team B or Zukky with Team K
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Probably when Yuiyui performs with Team B at the theater again we’ll already have the next single or even the one after.

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61st Single (Doushite mo Kimi ga Suki da) - 4th Sale 1st Round (3rd to 4th of 2023)

I debated whether to post this as a full spreadsheet at all, seeing as barely anything changed...

TL;DR

Mogi Shinobu went from "10/50 (+1)" to "10/50 (+2)"

Sato Minami went from "00/24" to "00/24 (+1)"

Kuranoo Narumi went from "43/54 (+1)" to "43/54 (+3)"

Yamazaki Sora went from "02/30 (+2)" to "02/30 (+3)"

Masai Mayuu went from "03/20 (+1)" to "04/20"

Hirata Yuki went from "01/20 (+2)" to "02/20 (+1)"

So for Mogi, Satomina, Naru and Sorara, they only increased their number of nearly sold out slots (one each for Mogi, Satomina and Sorara, Naru got 2 more).

Mayuu and Hirata Yuki are the only ones to actually sell a slot each.

Legend:
sold-out IRL dates/available IRL dates + sold-out online dates/available online dates = combined dates (+/–difference from previous round) Member Name

Example:
01/30 + 23/24 = 24/54 (+02) Oguri Yui (29+1=30 slots nearly sold out)
Yui has 30 slots available IRL and sold out one of them. She has 24 dates available online, and has sold out 23 of them. This makes a total of 24 out of 54 sold out. The number in brackets signifies the difference from the previous round (i.e. 2 more than previously). The numbers in brackets after the name show how many dates IRL + online = total only have a few tickets left to win/nearly sold out.

17/30 + 24/24 = 41/54 (+00) Honda Hitomi (3+0=3 slots nearly sold out)
01/30 + 14/24 = 15/54 (+00) Mukaichi Mion (0+3=3 slots nearly sold out)
04/30 + 16/20 = 20/50 (+00) Iwatate Saho (0+1=1 slot nearly sold out)
02/30 + 03/20 = 05/50 (+00) Chiba Erii
06/20 + 24/24 = 30/44 (+00) Okabe Rin (2+0=2 slots nearly sold out)
00/24 + 00/16 = 00/40 (+00) Nagano Serika
03/18 + 06/12 = 09/30 (+00) Shimizu Maria (0+3=3 slot nearly sold out)
00/18 + 01/12 = 01/30 (+00) Muto Orin (0+1=1 slot nearly sold out)
00/18 + 00/12 = 00/30 (+00) Komiyama Haruka
00/16 + 00/08 = 00/24 (+00) Fukuoka Seina
00/10 + 00/08 = 00/20 (+00) Otake Hitomi (0+1=1 slot nearly sold out)
00/12 + 00/08 = 00/20 (+00) Takahashi Sayaka
00/12 + 00/08 = 00/20 (+00) Nakanishi Chiyori
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Saito Haruna
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Ma Chia-Ling
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Michieda Saki
00/00 + 00/00 = 00/00 (+00) Yoshihashi Yuzuka

02/30 + 17/24 = 19/54 (+00) Yamauchi Mizuki
00/30 + 13/24 = 13/54 (+00) Oda Erina
02/30 + 08/20 = 10/50 (+00) Mogi Shinobu (0+2=2 slots nearly sold out)
00/30 + 04/20 = 04/50 (+00) Taguchi Manaka (0+2=2 slots nearly sold out)
02/24 + 02/16 = 04/40 (+00) Yamane Suzuha
06/20 + 12/12 = 18/32 (+00) Onishi Momoka
00/18 + 00/12 = 00/30 (+00) Takahashi Ayane
01/12 + 00/08 = 01/20 (+00) Hattori Yuna (0+1=1 slot nearly sold out)
00/12 + 00/08 = 00/20 (+00) Kobayashi Ran
00/12 + 00/08 = 00/20 (+00) Shimoguchi Hinana
00/06 + 01/04 = 01/10 (+00) Yamabe Ayu
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Ichikawa Manami
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Uemi Sorano
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Okuhara Hinako
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Yumoto Ami

30/30 + 24/24 = 54/54 (+00) Oguri Yui (2nd Sale 1st Round SOLD OUT)
01/30 + 10/20 = 11/50 (+00) Sakaguchi Nagisa (0+4=4 slots nearly sold out)
00/30 + 05/20 = 05/50 (+00) Asai Nanami (0+2=2 slots nearly sold out)
00/30 + 03/19 = 03/49 (+00) Omori Maho (0+3=3 slot nearly sold out)
24/24 + 24/24 = 48/48 (+00) Kashiwagi Yuki (2nd Sale 1st Round SOLD OUT)
01/24 + 00/16 = 01/40 (+00) Suzuki Kurumi (0+2=2 slots nearly sold out)
00/12 + 03/12 = 03/24 (+00) Hashimoto Haruna
00/12 + 01/12 = 01/24 (+00) Shinozaki Ayana
00/12 + 00/12 = 00/24 (+00) Sato Minami (0+1=1 slot nearly sold out)
00/12 + 00/12 = 00/24 (+00) Tokunaga Remi (0+1=1 slot nearly sold out)
00/12 + 00/08 = 00/20 (+00) Ishiwata Sena
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Kitazawa Saki
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Hidaritomo Ayaka
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Fujizono Rei
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Yamada Kyoka

30/30 + 24/24 = 54/54 (+00) Murayama Yuiri (2nd Sale 1st Round SOLD OUT)
19/30 + 24/24 = 43/54 (+00) Kuranoo Narumi (3+0=3 slot nearly sold out)
00/30 + 03/20 = 03/50 (+00) Taniguchi Megu
00/30 + 10/10 = 10/40 (+00) Shitao Miu
00/24 + 03/16 = 03/40 (+00) Nagatomo Ayami
00/18 + 00/12 = 00/30 (+00) Gyoten Yurina
00/18 + 00/12 = 00/30 (+00) Sakagawa Hiyuka
00/18 + 00/12 = 00/30 (+00) Tada Kyoka
01/12 + 00/12 = 01/24 (+00) Sasaki Yukari (1+0=1 slot nearly sold out)
00/12 + 00/12 = 00/24 (+00) Yoshikawa Nanase
00/12 + 00/08 = 00/20 (+00) Omori Miyuu
00/12 + 00/08 = 00/20 (+00) Okada Rina
00/12 + 00/08 = 00/20 (+00) Kurosu Haruka
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Utada Hatsuka
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Takaoka Kaoru
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Kahawara Misaki
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Sato Kiara
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Yoshida Karen

00/24 + 09/16 = 09/40 (+00) Hashimoto Eriko (1+0=1 slot nearly sold out)
00/24 + 08/16 = 08/40 (+00) Sato Airi
01/18 + 06/12 = 07/30 (+00) Mizushima Miyuu
01/18 + 01/12 = 02/30 (+00) Yamazaki Sora (0+3=3 slots nearly sold out)
00/12 + 03/08 = 04/20 (+01) Masai Mayuu
01/12 + 01/08 = 02/20 (+00) Ota Yuki
01/12 + 01/08 = 02/20 (+00) Hotei Moka
00/12 + 02/08 = 02/20 (+01) Hirata Yuki (1+0=1 slot nearly sold out)
00/12 + 00/08 = 00/20 (+00) Kohama Kokone
00/06 + 01/04 = 01/10 (+00) Hatakeyama Nozomi

Total: 157/1,226 + 311/873 = 468/2,099 [22.30% of all tickets sold] (+2 since previous round)
Team A: 033/288 + 088/208 = 121/496 [24.40%*]
Team K: 014/248 + 056/172 = 070/420 [16.67%*]
Team B: 056/252 + 070/195 = 126/447 [28.19%*]
Team 4: 050/288 + 064/198 = 114/486 [23.46%*]
Kenkyuusei: 004/150 + 033/100 = 037/250 [14.80%*]

Comparison with 60th Single (4th Sale 1st Round)
Total: 794/2,794 [28.41% of all tickets sold] -6.11%

*Note: The percentage of tickets sold is based solely on sold-out slots. The actual number is probably higher but inaccessible to the public.
bonjourmarlene, Apr 5, 2023

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theworldofwindow said: ↑

I also don't understand the quality of recent MVs either. I mean, I know their single sales are really that high like before but they are not really that far off from other 46 groups and 46 groups do seem to have better MV quality...
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I know i am minority but that chorus part of the Hisarippu MV gives me a headache with all the cropped shots of member surrounding the dance shots.

The idea was there but the color grading was so all over the place and there are a lot of parts where it is too blue tinted.

The last MV i truly like (discounting hanarete itemo) is Sustanaible

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I'm seriously worrying with those sale numbers, these are poor results (to not say catastrophic) and if it continues like this, AKB48 is going to encounter a very noticeable drop.
Only the kenkyusei as a whole are seing an increase in sold out slots for now.
I'm afraid that 300k in 1st week milestone isn't secured anymore.

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lionel90 said: ↑

I'm seriously worrying with those sale numbers, these are poor results (to not say catastrophic) and if it continues like this, AKB48 is going to encounter a very noticeable drop.
Only the kenkyusei as a whole are seing an increase in sold out slots for now.
I'm afraid that 300k in 1st week milestone isn't secured anymore.
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Could be the results of the new policy of payment

xabizalla96, Apr 6, 2023

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lionel90 said: ↑

I'm seriously worrying with those sale numbers, these are poor results (to not say catastrophic) and if it continues like this, AKB48 is going to encounter a very noticeable drop.
Only the kenkyusei as a whole are seing an increase in sold out slots for now.
I'm afraid that 300k in 1st week milestone isn't secured anymore.
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Could this be the effect of ban if you dont pay what u win? If so, it might be that in the previous singles more slots are sold out but eventually not paid for?

souchan48, Apr 6, 2023

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lionel90 said: ↑

I'm seriously worrying with those sale numbers, these are poor results (to not say catastrophic) and if it continues like this, AKB48 is going to encounter a very noticeable drop.
Only the kenkyusei as a whole are seing an increase in sold out slots for now.
I'm afraid that 300k in 1st week milestone isn't secured anymore.
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As others have said, there's the threat of banning. Also, HisaLip had higher hanashikai sales than Moto Kare desu, yet Moto Kare desu has higher pre-order sales numbers on Oricon. To be honest, personally I prefer if fans don't bulk pre-order so much for hanashikai because there's the Oricon limit anyway. I am a bit worried too, not gonna lie, but I'm not too pessimistic just yet.

61st Single (Doushite mo Kimi ga Suki da) - 4th Sale 2nd Round (4th to 5th of April 2023)

Legend:
sold-out IRL dates/available IRL dates + sold-out online dates/available online dates = combined dates (+/–difference from previous round) Member Name

Example:
01/30 + 23/24 = 24/54 (+02) Oguri Yui (29+1=30 slots nearly sold out)
Yui has 30 slots available IRL and sold out one of them. She has 24 dates available online, and has sold out 23 of them. This makes a total of 24 out of 54 sold out. The number in brackets signifies the difference from the previous round (i.e. 2 more than previously). The numbers in brackets after the name show how many dates IRL + online = total only have a few tickets left to win/nearly sold out.

17/30 + 24/24 = 41/54 (+00) Honda Hitomi (5+0=5 slots nearly sold out)
01/30 + 14/24 = 15/54 (+00) Mukaichi Mion (0+3=3 slots nearly sold out)
04/30 + 17/20 = 21/50 (+01) Iwatate Saho (1+0=1 slot nearly sold out)
02/30 + 03/20 = 05/50 (+00) Chiba Erii
07/20 + 24/24 = 31/44 (+01) Okabe Rin (1+0=1 slot nearly sold out)
00/24 + 00/16 = 00/40 (+00) Nagano Serika
03/18 + 09/12 = 12/30 (+03) Shimizu Maria
00/18 + 01/12 = 01/30 (+00) Muto Orin (0+1=1 slot nearly sold out)
00/18 + 00/12 = 00/30 (+00) Komiyama Haruka
00/16 + 00/08 = 00/24 (+00) Fukuoka Seina
00/10 + 00/08 = 00/20 (+00) Otake Hitomi (0+1=1 slot nearly sold out)
00/12 + 00/08 = 00/20 (+00) Takahashi Sayaka
00/12 + 00/08 = 00/20 (+00) Nakanishi Chiyori
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Saito Haruna (0+1=1 slot nearly sold out)
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Ma Chia-Ling
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Michieda Saki
00/00 + 00/00 = 00/00 (+00) Yoshihashi Yuzuka

02/30 + 17/24 = 19/54 (+00) Yamauchi Mizuki (1+0=1 slot nearly sold out)
00/30 + 13/24 = 13/54 (+00) Oda Erina (1+1=2 slots nearly sold out)
02/30 + 08/20 = 10/50 (+00) Mogi Shinobu (0+2=2 slots nearly sold out)
00/30 + 04/20 = 04/50 (+00) Taguchi Manaka (0+2=2 slots nearly sold out)
02/24 + 02/16 = 04/40 (+00) Yamane Suzuha
06/20 + 12/12 = 18/32 (+00) Onishi Momoka
00/18 + 00/12 = 00/30 (+00) Takahashi Ayane
01/12 + 01/08 = 02/20 (+01) Hattori Yuna
00/12 + 00/08 = 00/20 (+00) Kobayashi Ran
00/12 + 00/08 = 00/20 (+00) Shimoguchi Hinana
00/06 + 01/04 = 01/10 (+00) Yamabe Ayu
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Ichikawa Manami
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Uemi Sorano
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Okuhara Hinako
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Yumoto Ami

30/30 + 24/24 = 54/54 (+00) Oguri Yui (2nd Sale 1st Round SOLD OUT)
01/30 + 11/20 = 12/50 (+01) Sakaguchi Nagisa (0+3=3 slots nearly sold out)
00/30 + 05/20 = 05/50 (+00) Asai Nanami (0+2=2 slots nearly sold out)
00/30 + 05/19 = 05/49 (+02) Omori Maho (0+1=1 slot nearly sold out)
24/24 + 24/24 = 48/48 (+00) Kashiwagi Yuki (2nd Sale 1st Round SOLD OUT)
01/24 + 00/16 = 01/40 (+00) Suzuki Kurumi (0+2=2 slots nearly sold out)
00/12 + 03/12 = 03/24 (+00) Hashimoto Haruna
00/12 + 01/12 = 01/24 (+00) Shinozaki Ayana
00/12 + 00/12 = 00/24 (+00) Sato Minami (0+1=1 slot nearly sold out)
00/12 + 01/12 = 01/24 (+01) Tokunaga Remi (0+1=1 slot nearly sold out)
00/12 + 00/08 = 00/20 (+00) Ishiwata Sena
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Kitazawa Saki
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Hidaritomo Ayaka
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Fujizono Rei
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Yamada Kyoka

30/30 + 24/24 = 54/54 (+00) Murayama Yuiri (2nd Sale 1st Round SOLD OUT)
19/30 + 24/24 = 43/54 (+00) Kuranoo Narumi (4+0=4 slot nearly sold out)
00/30 + 03/20 = 03/50 (+00) Taniguchi Megu
00/30 + 10/10 = 10/40 (+00) Shitao Miu
00/24 + 03/16 = 03/40 (+00) Nagatomo Ayami
00/18 + 00/12 = 00/30 (+00) Gyoten Yurina
00/18 + 00/12 = 00/30 (+00) Sakagawa Hiyuka
00/18 + 00/12 = 00/30 (+00) Tada Kyoka
01/12 + 00/12 = 01/24 (+00) Sasaki Yukari (1+0=1 slot nearly sold out)
00/12 + 00/12 = 00/24 (+00) Yoshikawa Nanase
00/12 + 00/08 = 00/20 (+00) Omori Miyuu
00/12 + 00/08 = 00/20 (+00) Okada Rina
00/12 + 00/08 = 00/20 (+00) Kurosu Haruka
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Utada Hatsuka
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Takaoka Kaoru
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Kahawara Misaki
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Sato Kiara
00/06 + 00/04 = 00/10 (+00) Yoshida Karen

00/24 + 09/16 = 09/40 (+00) Hashimoto Eriko (1+0=1 slot nearly sold out)
00/24 + 08/16 = 08/40 (+00) Sato Airi (1+0=1 slot nearly sold out)
01/18 + 06/12 = 07/30 (+00) Mizushima Miyuu
01/18 + 01/12 = 02/30 (+00) Yamazaki Sora (0+3=3 slots nearly sold out)
00/12 + 03/08 = 04/20 (+00) Masai Mayuu
01/12 + 01/08 = 02/20 (+00) Ota Yuki (0+1=1 slot nearly sold out)
01/12 + 01/08 = 02/20 (+00) Hotei Moka
00/12 + 02/08 = 02/20 (+00) Hirata Yuki (0+1=1 slot nearly sold out)
00/12 + 00/08 = 00/20 (+00) Kohama Kokone
00/06 + 01/04 = 01/10 (+00) Hatakeyama Nozomi

Total: 158/1,226 + 320/873 = 478/2,099 [22.77% of all tickets sold] (+10 since previous round)
Team A: 034/288 + 092/208 = 126/496 [25.40%*]
Team K: 014/248 + 057/172 = 071/420 [16.90%*]
Team B: 056/252 + 074/195 = 130/447 [29.08%*]
Team 4: 050/288 + 064/198 = 114/486 [23.46%*]
Kenkyuusei: 004/150 + 033/100 = 037/250 [14.80%*]

Comparison with 60th Single (4th Sale 2nd Round)
Total: 825/2,789 [29.58% of all tickets sold] -6.81%

*Note: The percentage of tickets sold is based solely on sold-out slots. The actual number is probably higher but inaccessible to the public.

Last edited: Apr 6, 2023

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