Discussion in 'General SKE48 Discussion' started by ForrestFuller, Dec 20, 2014.
hopefully you didn't see my post as a hate post or anything, cuz i wasn't hating
The day Sae becomes leader of SKE, is probably the day everyone thinks it she could do it. Still I think it's rare and kind of pointless to have only one leader. SKE is going through lots of graduations and some of the newer members need a little mentoring someone to show them the ropes as we saw before Rena herself can't lead a team as well as she'd like, but Sae can help a few members and Rena can help a few, Suda, Madoka, Oya, Akane, Aya, Airi, Mina and Kaori each and everyone becoming a bit of good support to the younger and newer members. Then plently of members will be able to stay and find the strength to finally push their limits and unveil their great selves.
I really want to understand what you mean by this, apart from feeling like you have the authority to dictate members' friendships (just, lol.) maybe you haven't considered that the members you listed (Jurina, Rion, Ryoha, Anmi) are senbatsu members (as well as being team mates) and therefore have more activities together and more opportunities to be closer.
I know that everyone is disheartened because promising members seem to be graduating left and right I agree it's absolutely horrible. Outside of the fandom it seems to be really difficult for the girls to get their names out there as an SKE members as opposed to the other sister groups who do a much better job promoting the girls' careers. People have given many examples for the various faux paus the management continues to make
and maybe the amount of kennins/transfers is one of them just like team K has too many (I agree, its a LOT and notice I said the amount and not kennin in general) but they had a huge exodus of top members in 2012/2013 already and seemed to want a quick fix while they promoted new up and comers so in a way I understand it
but taking it out on the girls themselves as if kennin are suddenly the ones in charge of management decisions placing themselves in sembatus is ridiculous.
Spoiler: About Tani
I love Tani to death but the general discourse of how she's more accepted by SKE fans because she has a better relationship with them is completely laughable. Yes I know she has a good relationship with SKE members but it's completely delusional to pretend as if that's the reason you guys like her more and not because she was already an up and comer with a lot of momentum that hadn't fully made her name in HKT yet only having been a full promoted member for a few weeks before she got transfered to SKE, it was good timing for SKE and yes her being in SKE benefits SKE in my opinion because she's an up and coming star.
Just all of my at the circle jerking going on (in here and the SKE thread)
my point is, by forming relationships you become one of the group, and by relationships not just the ones in your comfort zone (your team), if you're in a group where you have no relationships whatsover, then you stick out like a sore thumb, simple as that. But you have to have relationships with big senior members too, making friends with girls like Rena, Churi etc (who are souls and hearts of the group) is so much more beneficial to be accepted by most of the fandom than making friends with Yamada Juna or something, Ex: like Rena in Nogi, Rena is kind of close to Miona but isn't that close to the 1st gen => still seen as a stranger by Nogi fans => sticking out, like just watch her at Nogi x-mas show, it's just bad and sad at the same time. That said, i'm not saying that the girls should just go and try to be friends with the popular girls just for the sake of getting more popular/accepted, it's just a common thing, even in the outside world, that if you want to be more accepted by the group, you gotta make friends with the more senior/member etc of the group
Also about Tani, nah, if that's the reason and we would all hate Minarun but we don't so,...
@kk127 you completely missed my point. I was saying she's closer to them obviously because she has more activities with them. If she has more time to bond with Churi etc I'm pretty sure she would because she's known for being sociable and getting along with members in general. It will clearly take time for transfers to blend in completely with the ~pure~ SKE girls, especially in the eyes of bitter antis who are traumatized by years of mass grads and want someone to take it out on.
wrt Oba: people were still buttmad when she got into UI sembatsu after not being in AKB sembatsu and I've seen people bash on her for her "scandal" here STILL pretty recently too so this is simply false.
then isn't it exactly my point??, i think you also missed my point (lol, we all did i think), of course the reason Sae is closer to the young gens of S is becuz she's in S, duh, i know that , but what i was saying is that to be more accepted she should make connections outside of her comfort zone (team S) and make friends with girls in E & KII, that was my point, also making friends will senior girls like Churi, rena will make it even easier for her
the Oba/Tani thing
Minarun was not really welcomed at first but then she started to make friends with girls in SKE (not just KII, but in S & E), and she was more welcomed, as of now, at least more than Sae, the same thing couldn't be said about Sae as of now, of course Minarun is in SKE longer (since mid 2013) so that's a plus, but this still proves my point, relationships and connections matter a lot, and as like other girls, Sae will be more welcomed if she make friends with others, of course, time is a problem and i know that, but my point still stands.
Tbh if the management wanted to make Sae as the leader of the whole SKE, then none of the things above will matter. I don't really know about SKE dynamics, but I'm pretty sure if they wanted to choose a leader from the current SKE members, it will be Sae (I don't have anything against that).
This reminds me of the lineup of Kagami no Naka Jean D'arc line up from 2014 TD. Sashihara, Takahashi Minami, Sayaka & Sae. It's like they gathered the big bosses of each group (of course there are lots argument that can counter this example).
1. Get rid of ALL kennin ASAP
2. After that, promote all trainee(ALL)
3. The last one is, everybody happy
-None of my modest hope above will happen
-A coup de grâce.
-Or even worse, another sojourn kennin.
-The worst, SKE48 become AKB48's kennin group
(at least i am not OOT)
1.Tani Enters Senbatsu
2.Iwata Karen promoted as vice-captain of team A(step closer to Soukantoku Sandaime)
3.OgasawaraxNakanishi double center single
1.remaining 2nd Generation Kana, Ayaka and Sae Graduates
No offense but how do most of that have anything to do with SKE
Sae is captain of team s the only kennin to be canceled is Sae's with snh48 as she and Suzki did get to perticpate in any single
you really have to quote what you're referring to/talking about because 70% of your posts don't make sense at all since there's no context
^I feel like she's trying to say "I predict Sae will permanently move to SKE". Almost all her posts are about Sae so probably something to that effect
That's what you call a passionate fan. Anyway, I would like to see sae back to akb and graduate there. She's one of the pioneers in akb so it will be nice to see her end it there.
I guess she will graduate from SKE, but if she gets a grad concert, it will certainly be from an 48G concert. Also, even though she is hardly missing a theater show in Nagoya these days, a final theater performance in Akihibara would be fitting. Maybe in all three (Sakae, Akihabara and Shanghai ). I predict her grad announcement during the 10 year show, and the graduation in March 2016. Thats exactly 2 years after her transfer to SKE, and i guess they gave her a 2 year contract.
- Jurina ranks 1st in Senbatsu (it's kinda hard though because we also have Mayu, Yukirin and Sayaka), and Rena ranks up or at least remains in 5th. Sae-chan ranks up.
- New W-center from now on because it seems this year is the time for SKE48 to reborn so that WMatsui can move up to achieve their own goals (Rena's solo career and Jurina's best position in 48G). We have to get used to the new form of SKE48 without WMatsui as center.
- All the girls' health is still good (especially the kennin ones, I think they've been working too hard).
- More epic season of Ebi series. I wanna see more Danso, our girls looks so good as ikemen. Or just like the last Ebi Calcio ep =))) It's too funny to see Jurina gay (yuri) aspect. I wish they make the dokkiri more simple by just making the girls confessing to Jurina and see how her react. It must be more funny but will never happen, I know =))) I just want some fun.
- More great songs (especially the cool style one). I think Coquettish Juutaichuu as a good beginning for this year. The song is catchy, the dance is cute overloadingly and the outfit is perfect OMG.
- More funny and memoriable moments as when Rena said goodbye to her shoe on Music Station. Her "flying shoe" is going to be SKE48's legend for sure.
- Stop the kennin for Rena hime.
- And less graduations.
- Sales drop.
- Mass graduations.
- Rena's graduation. People recently talked a lot about her soon graduation 'cause she's getting older and famous enough to start her solo career.
It must be thousand times people saying about this: Jurina's full transfer to team K and become the strongest candidate for the next ace of 48G position. The most popular reason for fans to disagree her as the next Ace is her special role in SKE48, if she's transferred to team K for full time, there's no one can prevent her from getting that position. And this year seems like "That time to come" because she's getting 18 now. And the way she asked Ryoha via 755 makes things like the preparation for her full transfer.
I mean Project 48 which includes AKB and all sister groups
Oh you could have said 48 group