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Hopes, Fears, and Predictions for 2016 (Nogizaka46)

Discussion in 'General Nogizaka46 Discussion' started by ForrestFuller, Dec 11, 2015.

  1. ForrestFuller

    ForrestFuller Future Girls

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    Dec 4, 2013
    Location:
    Columbus, Ohio
    Oshimen:
    Miyawaki Sakura
    With 2015 coming to a close. I figure we could do the stage48 yearly tradition (recently for all of the groups).

    So what are your hopes, fears, and Predictions for 2016 with Nogizaka46?

    Here are some past ones.
    2015
     
  2. Crossheart

    Crossheart Kenkyuusei

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    Chihuahua, Mexico
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    Nagasawa Nanako
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    rom_ch22
    First, i will put my last year post and made a review
    Hopes: well, kinda failed... yet Sayuringo is fine
    Fears: Nothing happened
    Preditions: Well KEYAKIZAKA46 happens, also double center

    Ok, for this year
    Hopes
    NO KENNIN WITH KEYAKI ARE ANNOUNCED!
    Repeats the next year kohaku

    Fears
    Another scandal like Harada Mayu's strikes one of the groups

    Predictions
    Ikoma will not return to the center, at least for the first half of the year
    Another new center will rise
    A big name will announce her graduation!!!
     
  3. Dakuenjeru Otabe

    Dakuenjeru Otabe Kenkyuusei

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    Valrico,Florida
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    watanaberisa
    hopes:I'm going out on a limb and say I hope nogizaka46 sells 1million in one of their singles first week. fears:nogi sells worse than their previous single. predictions:fukugawa and kawamura say sayonara.
     
  4. honeyNUT

    honeyNUT Kenkyuusei

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2014
    Oshimen:
    watanabemiyuki
    Twitter:
    satominameme
    Hopes

    -Nogizaka sells 1m
    -More 2nd gens in senbatsu
    -Nogizaka46 Asia tour (YES PLEASE)
    -more anime tie-ins
    -Ikuchan gets another center
    -AshuMina keeps rising
    -Marika dropped for Hori
    -Sayuri back in fukujin

    Fears

    -Hori's banned from senbatsu
    -Kennins from Nogi to Keyaki
    -a member from Unders graduates

    Prediction:

    -Hori back in senbatsu
    -an Under member transferred to Keyaki
    -Keyaki's ace starts appearing in Nogi senbatsu
    -more anime tie-ins
     
  5. ForrestFuller

    ForrestFuller Future Girls

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2013
    Location:
    Columbus, Ohio
    Oshimen:
    Miyawaki Sakura
    Hopes
    • Ikoma centers another single
    • Nogizaka46 SSK or Request Hour
    • Sales continue to rise
    • 4 Singles
    • Ikoma and Manatsu Photobooks
    • Nogizaka46 3rd Generation
    • Solo Debuts and Sub Unit

    Fears
    • Sales drop
    • less the 3 singles
    • Same people in senbatsu

    Predictions
    • 4 Singles
    • Sales Continue to Rise (Almost reaching a million).
    • Nogizaka46 3rd Generation Announced
    • Photobooks from Ikoma, Manatsu, Erika
    • Nogizaka46 First Sub Unit (and Drama to it)
    • Hatsumoi Bemars Season 2
    • New Members make senbatsu and some return senbatsu.
    • Keyakizaka46 center/Ace joins senbatsu for Nogizaka46.
     
  6. kanjo

    kanjo Stage48 Admin Staff Member Stage48 Admin

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    Aug 20, 2012
    Location:
    Ireland->Shimane
    Oshimen:
    Nishino Nanase
    Hopes
    • Their recognisability rises; even if their sales don't I'd be happy with that
    • continue with at least 3 singles. 3 great better than 4 okay, though.
    • more and bigger tie-ins!
    • Kojichu gradually returns to a nogidoko-like concept (keeping only the rotating members). +1 more program (doesn't have to be BINGO)
    • More whole group activities. Nogizaka Ha II
    • Interesting lineups, including centre.
    • More 2nd gen in senbatsu

    Fears
    • Only two singles.
    • 2nd gen kept down

    Predictions
    • No graduations any time soon. Members are all either: successful, cheerful or unambitious (not in a bad way).
     
  7. kinglight25

    kinglight25 Rank 81-100 (Temporary Name)

    Joined:
    May 8, 2015
    Oshimen:
    suzukiayane
    Hopes:
    • Hashimoto centers a single.
    • Suzuki Ayane is in senbatsu.
    • Senbatsu is permanent 18 slots.
    • Has a TV drama with Bananaman, Matsu Rena is main cast.
    • Next TV drama will be badass theme or historical theme, no more sport theme.
    Fears:
    • 3rd gen audition.
    • Kennin.
    • Has a Nogizaka Sousenkyo.
    • Some Under members graduate.
    Predictions:
    • Photobook for Fukagawa.
    • More musical with Nogizaka in cast.
    • Terada Ranze, Himetan, Nagashima in senbatsu.
    • Nogizaka kojichuu will be end and a renew program begin, with Bananman still is MC.
    • Another Kouhaku invite.
     
  8. rust

    rust Kenkyuusei Retired Staff

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    @kanjo your prediction for 2015 end up being rather accurate it seems xD

    review first~
    Hopes  
    1. & x? Joshiraku & All Dogs go to Heaven instead of Principal, so in some sense better tho lol
    2. iku got Zannen na Otto & Princess Knight, marika got EYES, Ikoma got Corpse Party?, there was Bemars too, & musicals like aforementioned two tsuki's Vamprire Knight, sayu/chima's Teiichi no Kuni. Pretty good!
    3. More great singles with great musics & MVs (& best with great bonus individual PVs too)
    4. Promote our kks
    5. More utilization of our Unders
    6. x mostly..? More live singing
    7. x orz. Break-out single

    Fears  

    1. x More kennins
    2. x More 48-related sub units (something-zaka)
    3. seitan. Graduations
    4. x Throwing nogi into 48 sousenkyou
    5. Certainly controversial, not sure did it reach fandom-burning? lol

    Predictions   
    1. seitan. Some graduations of less popular members
    2. x End up being more of a minami asuka push?
    3. More Under lives & successes.
    4. Keyakizaka & hiraganakeyaki? something outrageous, not sure what tho lol

    Pleasant Surprises of 2015   
    1. asuka's momentous rise!
    2. misa & maimai front!
    3. six-fold expansion of official model roster!
    4. ranze's rise!
    5. bunch of PBs!

    Hopes   
    1. Breakout single
    2. Return of Unders-dedicated show like nogiten
    3. A 2nd regular nogi show, can be more seasons of nogibingo
    4. Continuing more acting opportunities
    5. Continuing more opportunities for Unders
    6. More models xD (maimai would be great)
    7. More PBs (maimai ideally)
    8. Another nogi-drama but with much better script & production lol
    9. No more Aki-p involvement/as lyricist lol
    10. In general more opportunities & success for the girls lol

    Fear   
    1. Graduation
    2. Unreasonable push or centre airdrop
    3. Some sort of sousenkyou
    4. Keyaki girls thrown into nogi

    Prediction   
    1. Maiyan in a Movie! (I'm kinda cheating on this one lol)
    2. No graduation anytime soon
    3. First time centre appearing
    4. More sub-unit
    5. himetan, ranze, key, miona will at least make senbatsu once
    6. maimai PB
    7. one or two more PBs (group or asuka?)
    8. More musical opportunities
     
  9. kanjo

    kanjo Stage48 Admin Staff Member Stage48 Admin

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    Nishino Nanase
    I supposed I should go back and check as I completely forgot about it.


    I guess rotation of unders will start from scratch

    This didn't happen. Not that I was strongly expecting it but I wasn't expecting them to stabilise senbatsu this much. Disappointing.

    One new 2nd gen in 11th senbatsu, one new 2nd gen in unders for the same.
    Half true, but not the way I wanted. Iori got in senbatsu but no one joined unders for the first time.
    I expected two 2nd gens to be promoted by this, and that didn't happen. Though, all six were promoted instead so that works.

    A 700k selling single by the end of the year.
    So close. I believe we have our 700k single already with ImaHana but it's not 700k yet and it probably won't be by the end of the year. By February, I guess.

    Most likely graduation (imo): Hatanaka.

    I've never been surprised by a graduation. By a quit? All the time. But grads you can see coming months in advance.

    Kouhaku debut *crosses fingers*

    HELL YES!! ALL ABOARD THE HYPE TRAIN, CHIYODA LINE!

    I also guessed the senbatsu announcement date for ImaHana about a month in advance on FB. Mgmt-san, you're so predictable
     
  10. tiktok

    tiktok Upcoming Girls

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2015
    Oshimen:
    Kakehashi Sayaka
    Hopes

    -Ikuchan gets another center
    -Ikoma drop to Unders and gain popularity
    -AshuMina fukujin
    -HoriHime back to senbatsu together
    -Sale keep increase
    -breakout single
    -more exposure for Under Member
    -more Opportunity for 2nd gen
    -top member appearance in prime time drama
    -more CM
    -ikuchan solo single, or solo song at least
    -Asuka fashion PB

    Fears

    -Management prevent girls like Hori and Himetan or drop Sayunyan and Marika to keep Ikoma's spot in senbatsu
    -Ikoma gain more haters
    -Management use Ikoma to make more drama in group
    -drops sale
    -become too much 48s: kennin, ssk, etc
    -Nanase or Maiyan grad

    Prediction:

    -Hori and Himetan back in senbatsu
    -more PB (Maimai, Asuka, Misa)
    -more sub-unit
    -more first timer senbatsu (Ranze, Karin)
     
  11. riduch

    riduch Kenkyuusei

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2015
    Oshimen:
    hirateyurina
    hopes:
    same senbatsu lineup for 14th single, the lineup is just perfect and don't change the winning team, at least for another single
    if they decided to make a lineup change, himetan and miona should be the first priority as they sold out the HS tickets
    a better single, preferably cool song, but everything from nogizaka is awesome for now, at least don't go to the bad single route
    new drama, a sequel to hatsumori bemars should be perfect
    fears:
    inevitable but older members like maiyan, fukagawa, shinuchi, matsumura and even nanamin announce graduation. Please stay for at least 1 or 2 years more. I'm new to gizaka and they are my favorite members!!!
    keyakizaka ace joined nogizaka senbatsu and in the future it would be repetition of akb48 system all over again, just don't
    prediction
    one of older member or an under member announced gradiation
    they're doing fine until 2017
     
  12. ShanghaiPanda48

    ShanghaiPanda48 Kenkyuusei

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2015
    Location:
    indonesia
    Oshimen:
    wuzhehan
    Twitter:
    shanghaipanda12
    Hopes :
    • There will be great momentum for nogizaka to expand large in japan and gain more fans
    • Sub-Unit of course!
    • New Drama, Hatsumori bemars seasons 2
    • New Interesting Varshow which different from the olders
    • 1 million sale
    • Asia tour (hope they gonna come to indonesia[hehe])
    • Ikuchan as center at least on one single
    Fear :
    • Another nogizaka's members scandal
    • graduation
    • under members don't have any space and don't enough get pushed
    • they're quality of songs and performance decrease
    • Miona is nor in senbatsu
    Prediction
    No prediction from me :fp:
     
  13. AloNeko

    AloNeko Kenkyuusei

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2015
    Hopes:
    Ikuta Erika again center.

    Fears:
    Songs are more boring.

    Predi.
    15. at wery near 750 000-800 000
     
  14. piyochama

    piyochama Kenkyuusei

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2009
    Oshimen:
    matsuijurina
    Hopes:

    Not even wishing for 1 million anymore, just a song that becomes an actual hit in Japan, please
    Other ways for unders to break out. Senbatsu is great, even if they don't have my oshis in it
    Subunits would be awesome

    Fears:

    Graduations
    No general public hit, leading to stagnation
    They change up senbatsu

    Prediction:

    I don't know, which is another fear - if they become predicable that's just boring.
     
  15. SSFV

    SSFV Kenkyuusei

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    Location:
    Singapore
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    nagashimaseira
    The hell is up with you guys? Drop to Unders drop to Unders drop to Unders! As if the Unders are second rate members. The Under members are in no way inferior to the senbatsu members. Their biggest difference is just their popularity. Use 'move' damn it.

    Hope:
    -No more than 8 fukujin. More than 8 make it seem like getting to fukujin wasn't such a huge deal.
    - No more, "Hey guys! We need to make this regular senbatsu member the centre for this single. Oh but we can't afford to sacrifice the most popular member. Oh, I know! Let's just put her in Under's song as centre! In fact, let's make this a regular thing from now on!"
    Management t(-_-t)
    -Other Under members gets to be centre of their songs instead of always Miona, Himetan and Marika (I'm looking at Rottei, Hinachima, Chii-chan and Rarin).
    -A single where the A side involve both Senbatsu and Unders participate together. Kind of like an intense rivalry song and both have their lineup and captains without any fukujin position in Unders (I'm looking at Reika and Seirarin as each respective captain).
    -The return of webshows like Nogikoko and Nogiten but this time instead of only Unders, half the cast is from Senbatsu. Each episode involved all the members.
    -Graduated member make surprise performances during Birthday Live.
    -Iku-chan got picked to represent Japan's as 'The Idol' to the world.
    -Nogizaka46 Asia Tour!
    -Nogizaka46 Youtube Channel finally goes international.
    -Senbatsu have a huge change of lineup for every single.
    -2nd gen members get more exposure.
    -Nogizaka46 finally takes on 48G starting with their sister group.

    Fears:
    -1 or 2 Unders graduate not because of pursuing education or other ambitions but because of thinking they're not significant to the group.
    -Scandals
    -Senbatsu lineup is still the same
    -An MV like Labrador Retriever, Heavy Rotation or Sayonara Crawl (just no!)
    -Transferring of members to sister group
    -3rd gen audition

    Prediction:
    -One popular member will graduate
    -1 or 2 Under graduate
    -Senbatsu lineup no changes
    -Management f***ing things up like always

    Joke prediction:
    -Kazumin and Ami got caught going to a love hotel together
     
  16. rust

    rust Kenkyuusei Retired Staff

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    @SSFV while I sympathize with wanting equal standing between senbatsu & Unders, I think it's undeniable that there's generally a not insignificant difference in prestige & opportunities associated with the two status sadly. Of course things are better now than the very early days, but the gap still exist I think.

    That being said I would love to see many of your hope happens tho lol
     
  17. HogwartsHokage

    HogwartsHokage Kenkyuusei

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2012
    Location:
    California
    Oshimen:
    odanana
    Hopes:
    • Nogi continues to rise in popularity, almost reaching 900k
    • Ikuchan centering again, or even better...debuting as a soloist! :)
    • More acting and musical opportunities for the girls
    • More 2nd gen appearing in senbatsu more often
    • Nogi and Keyaki not forming a kennin-like system, but coming together as one big group occasionally (similar to H!P All Stars)
    • Nogi visits America! (Preferably Anime Expo in LA) :^^;:
    • More cool and classy singles from Nogi
    • Another Kouhaku invite
    Fears:
    • Nogi becomes more like AKB with a kennin-like system with Keyaki, a SSK, and a summer bikini-themed single
    • Sayurin and Ikomachan drop out of senbatsu completely
    • Nogi becomes stagnant or decreases in popularity
    • 3rd gen audition announced while 2nd gen is still being underutilized
    • Mass graduations
    Predictions:
    • One well-known senbatsu member announces her grad
    • A new center for one single (haha, would be funny to see Manatsu or Kazumin as center)
    • Another Maiyan and/or Nanase center
    • Miorin reaches Fukujin again and a few more 2nd gens make it to senbatsu
    • 3rd gen audition announced
    • More PBs (Manatsu's probably going to get hers next)
    • More subunits
    • 16nin no Principle Quatre! :D
    • Another Nogi-AKB collaboration
    • Keyaki ace added to Fukujin
     
    Last edited: Dec 18, 2015
  18. tsukiname

    tsukiname Kenkyuusei

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2014
    Location:
    Tarragona,Spain
    Oshimen:
    kojimaharuna
    Hopes:
    • Ikuchan center again
    • Nanase stops being the centre
    • Maiyan solo center
    • Manatsu center (but that won't happen u.u)
    • Increasing sales
    • more 2nd gen members in senbatsu
    • a cool single
    Fears:
    • Nanase keeps her position as center
    • Ikoma drops to Undergirls
    • Miona still in Undergirls
    • Kennins with Keyakizaka or AKB
    • Keyakizaka members on Nogi senbatsu
    Predictions:
    • Sales increasing
    • A big name graduation and undergirls
    • More photobooks,dramas and CMs
     
  19. AloNeko

    AloNeko Kenkyuusei

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2015
    Hey, what you say?
    Grauation? Look them ages... anyway that´s nothing do that case...

    neared 800 than 900, but little growth is seen...
     
  20. piyochama

    piyochama Kenkyuusei

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2009
    Oshimen:
    matsuijurina
    @rust that distinction between unders and senbatsu is exactly why I want a subunit. It's the easiest way for girls to get equal promotion even if they're not in senbatsu (mostly because senbatsu is really good as it is, and will only get worse if they just add girls as opposed to removing them from front line).
     

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