Discussion in 'Team K' started by Hugglepuff, Jan 22, 2018.
My bad, i'm using katakana on 'mail' word
Gotta be the understatement of the year lol. She hasn't been on any stages since she was promoted back in Dec 2018. Which is a weird move, IMO. And this concert showed that she needed that kind of experience.
[It didn't help either that K is crazy --- the schedule and speed at which other K members learn new songs are simply crazy]
There is a short report video of Team K's concert! You can see Moeka at the beginning and at the end
Today, Yukirin posted on Twitter a photo with Moeka, Yukirin said that she bought Moeka's photobook! She's truly the best senior Moeka signed the book and did a quick drawing of Yukirin, and it looks... Yukirin posted a close-up of it and laughed about it LOL the replies joke about the long legs XD
Btw Yukirin called Moeka as Yahagi Suchi-chan, so cute
Today was also Mirai Monster, here are some screenshots of Moeka. She looks so cute! They tried the trendy filter that shows your face as old LOL you can see the video here. Moeka is really cute (btw Yuihan did it too, she's so cute too ^^/)
I just hope she can endure this pressure... I mean she's 18 and the mental power, mind and body in this age.... You must be tough to endure it. My fear is, she ends like Owada Nana and leave to early.
These are all problems pointed out all along with Moeka.
Moeka has good points like her cute face, well developed figure and very good singing voice. And she has some bad points like clunky dancing, poor expressions and bad MC parts.
Those bad parts are common to a lot of new members and that is what the theater stage is for, to perform over and over again, to learn from your seniors and see what works for them and what isn't working for you, it's an incremental process. But instead she's been lightspeed pushed beyond any AKB member that I can remember, even Paruru didn't get a push like this. It's not particularly doing Moeka any favours, instead it risks exposing her flaws too much and ruining her confidence. She should have done way more theater performances and progressed from the backline to the front as her skills increase but AKS just want to try and squeeze as much money out of her as soon as possible rather than plan for the future. This risks Moeka flaming out rather than being a long term investment.
And I don't buy that she's too busy with school or whatnot, Muto Tomu somehow has time to turn up to two thirds of Team K's theater performances even while doing a masters degree in university and weather forecaster exams.
Being in the center is a lot responsibility, it is the place where all eyes observe and that will receive all hate attacks.
The words "hate" and "haters" are vastly over-used, too many people seem to classify criticism as hate.
I don’t remember Yuiyui getting lots of hate when she first centered an AKB48 single. She was roughly the same age, but had already centered a number of B sides. A quick count shows 5 A sides and 15 B sides, 4 as center, before Teacher Teacher.
I think experience matters.
Moeka did center 2 songs before Sustainable. Saikyou Twintail in No Way Man single, and Okujo Kara Sakebu in Jiwaru Days, this was a unit and it didn't have a music video but they performed it live, she is the center. It's a nice song btw and the live is very cute too:
But yes she still has much less experience (and less time in the group) compared to Yuiyui when she got her a-side center. But tbh I feel that management knows about her flaws and decided to still put her as center, so they probably think it can be her charm to still look very "new", like yes she has flaws but it feels fresh and just different? and like I said maybe it's like they make a different storyline for her. and the whole point will be to see her improve which will work well hopefully. I know I'm interested in seeing that and I personally find her clumsy side endearing and fresh. but I look forward to see her get better too
This is why I hate engaging in any topics trying to defend decision x, y, or z. It's a perpetual cycle of complaint unless the one people deem worthy to them is picked. People can always find reasons not to support something (humans decide and then rationalize decisions after the fact) and to be honest what's the worth of those people's acceptance anyway? The glass half empty mentality really is a killer. On the other hand though this is not half nearly as bad as Atsuko / Jurina back in the days
That being said, her mobame quality definitely dropped too around the same time all this started happening. For one reason or another she's unable to participate in theater ( Parents? School? Who knows) but if you look at Yukina their parents seem pretty strict with a no compromise attitude. Yes Moeka actually goes to a pretty good HS and not one made for geinins just so they can satisfy education level for the general population. People who don't have mobame don't know all the shootings, interviews, recordings, etc she's been in with since earlier this year. If she's not at a job she's at lessons, and even on her birthday when her family all went to hotel to celebrate, there was some auditorium so she practiced there until 2-3 in the morning.
It's not like people can't see she still needs work, but performance is not the end all be all. Just look at where it got T8 Yoko (another fave I might add). Everyone has shortcomings but no one ever gives her credit for her singing. To me, the importance of center is leading the appearance on music shows and dancing it at acceptable level. Especially during talk segments, she's not afraid to speak up and say something stupid to attract attention.
unfortunately she is made a center of a single, so there are more eyes watching her performance
I mean I can't really think of a pushed member in AKB who did not get hate or got little hate. Maybe Yuko or Takamina who were like 2nd and 3rd most important in AKB back then but I think that it was because they were not THE pushed girl (in those times it was Acchan and Jurina and of course they got lots of hate as we know). If we take 48G as a whole, I can only think of Sayanee who never really got hate, it's probably because she was good at everything?
My point is that I totally expected criticism and hate against Moeka. I'm fine with it when it's criticism. I'm only answering to discussions if I feel that there's wrong info, false assumptions or when I feel like giving my point of view, but I know we won't convince anyone who dislikes Moeka to support her all of a sudden so yeah I just let it be LOL tbh she is getting hate and some really mean comments (in other sites) but I have to say I don't find it too bad overall because I also see a lot of people taking more interest in Moeka. So things are going normally imo
Btw random but I posted on the Sustainable thread some thoughts on what could be the reasons why Moeka has been absent from the theater, I share it here as well.
dude, she literally has the 'bon kyu bon' body type. even her sister said that too.
that's why i like her so much. lol
36-24-36.. the most ideal..
Her PB still hanging on Oricon weekly chart. Selling 1173 copies this week and ranked on 4th place.
It's not very surprising with the promotion they are currently doing.
I saw it advertised quite some times on hers and AKB's Twitter.
Looking at the sales of other books there, I believe it might also be because there's no big releases, so Moeka still managed to rank. 1000+ copies in second week is pretty good considering she sold 6000 the first week, it didn't dissapear after. Rank #4 means she might rank again in next week and we can see an update! I think if she could pass 10k this would be a success in comparison to how current 48G sells in photobooks. Let's see!
Btw Sustainable music video was released and there is a making of too, I'm posting them here! I think Moeka did very well in the Mv, she looks very pretty and cute, I love her smile and she looks great in all close-up. There are many japanese comments praising her (calling her cute) from people who don't know her, they call her "center girl" LOL, I hope some of them will search about her and maybe become fans. the making of video has a message in the end where Moeka talked and she is just adorable >.<
(yes both videos have the same thumbnail, but the videos aren't the same )
Team K Tour behind the scene from eizousouko
Edit: still can't see how she looks "fat" in this costume (or anywhere else)
I agree, the outfit is tight but she definitely is not fat, she actually looks really good in this LOL her body has good proportions, her stomach is not large at all. it was really just that one second video from a bad angle, she looks good in all other videos I saw of her with this outfit, she's very cute and pretty!
Some random videos...
Message from Moeka, Naachan, Yuiyui about 56th Single:
Short IG Story of Satopii and Moeka having fun together:
These were both taken on the same day (she has the same outfit) and that was during the handshake days that they had earlier this month. Speaking of this, I searched in Moeka's tag on the days of those handshake events, and I found a few reports back then, and I have to say Moeka is really nice! it was cool that she often started a discussion with the fans, like asking them about which movie they watched and other things, and the discussions seem fun and interesting. Btw I like the Moeka-Satopii pair, they seem close, I like them both and they're so cute together ^^/
Certainly one of the reasons I like going to her. Sometimes with other members I run out of things to say and we just sort of stand there in awkward silence. With Moeka I'm not really worried about that. I have to say though most members treat handshakes like a fashion exhibition, as many saw in bingo her handshake attire has been rather...dasai recently. Fits with her casual atmosphere I guess but personally would like it if she dressed up some...lol.
Also RE handshakes, where people are saying doom and gloom about her not selling out. She sold out all the Tokyo dates, and I believe one Nagoya slot. No other member has moved from extra bonus items (1s,2s) to sign card only like her in the same speed, so it's almost a given HS sales can't catchup and suffer, especially in places outside of Tokyo like Nagoya/Osaka. It's probably going to take 2-3 more singles until she gets to sell out state.