[GENERAL] The AKB48 Thread

I don't think so. Her popularity built up now in the public really comes from her image as an actress in dramas and movies. Also being the new rising CM queen helped her gain lots of good recognition.

No one really asks her or bring up the iwate incident anymore other than 48G fans to reference things.

 

I think, Iwate incident also contribute, that was play big factor on recognition side, take look on Iriyama Ana.

I dont deny Ricchan current activites, of course those also playing big factor. That's why I said Avex push. She has good promotions from agency. And she is capable, so she doing well. If she not good enough, she would be a giant meme rightnow, like public did to Gouriki few years ago.

She is almost on same phase as Yamamoto Mizuki two year ago, CM queen, appear on drama, co-mc, etc. Just need a lead role on high profile project to be one of A-list. Yamamoto did it with Peach Girl. Still waiting for Ricchan's chance.

It's not a negative toward her regocnition rate anyway. Just analyze.

Like, how ordinary person will react if they saw Ricchan rank above current A-list names like Hirose Suzu, HashiKan and Masami?

 

The more well-known you are, the more difficult it is to keep the interest of a large proportion of people who know you. Also with how the x-axis and y-axis are scaled differently, difference in interest is simply more noticeable than difference in recognition in the graph. So I wouldn't say Ricchan's outrank those big names because they are all more well-known than Ricchan is currently.

The most significant thing in Ricchan's success is how she breaks away from AKB members' usual pattern of 'move down while move right' (i.e. getting more well-known but not getting as many new fans as before). She successfully maintains or even improves her ratio of interest while garnering more recognition. Rena seems to be able to do that as well. Paruru too - she was following the AKB pattern before graduation, though this year both her recognition rate and interest ratio improved. But Ricchan's doing the best of them all as of now.

 

i never heard anymore people talk about the incident after Ricchan graduated from AKB...what she got today is pure because her hard work and support from her agency
even now people also didn't see AKB name again inside her, only Kawaei Rina the actress

 

I don't agree with this either. The iwate incident itself has no contributing factor at all to their success (recognition) today.

No one ever goes..."Ohhhh that's the girl who almost got killed in that AKB hs event, yeah they got famous because of that"

 

It was national sensation, ppls might forgot the incident, but their face was everywhere and 'it help' them to introduce their face to more wider public. Ppls who dont watch entertainment on regular basis but read news. So when she or he watch asadora and saw Ricchan right there, it's like a recall "aah... I think I know her, but who is she again?"

 

Billboard JAPAN includes international sales

43rd 君はメロディー 1,470,789
44th 翼はいらない 2,507,403
45th LOVE TRIP/しあわせを分けなさい 1,412,112
46th ハイテンション 1,469,811
----- サムネイル 695,063
47th シュートサイン 1,353,450
48th 願いごとの持ち腐れ 2,649,234
49th #好きなんだ 1,493,543
50th 11月のアンクレット 1,533,025
51st ジャーバージャ 1,247,914

 

I don’t really see it as a gori oshi type of situation. I mean just look at her social media following.

 

Akashiya Kouhaku 180430 AKB part

 

I wonder if Zukki is going to become a big push. Surprised they put her on here and gave her screen time. She's cute.

 

bakawaei
lol at mayuyu, didn't she just started her career as an actress

 

More than 2.5 million copies for the SSK singles (and Negaigoto selling more than Tsubasa)!!

No wonder they don’t seem too bothered by the SG sales to do something drastic, they basically recover that with one single a year.

 

But Avex, Universal and Sony want to at least make some profit with the sister groups otherwise it's a whole heap of admin and effort used to support these groups that could be used elsewhere. And AKS wouldn't want the loss of prestige of having a group dropped from a major label (again).

 

Yeah, but do the labels work that closely with the groups?

Like, I imagine they are in charge of producing, promoting and selling the singles/albums, but everything else (theatre, tours, etc.) falls under AKS?
I really have no idea.

The sales of the SG are still good sales if we don't hold them up to the 4846 standard.

Morning Musume would be happy to sell 150k of a single (and let's not talk about the other HP groups), and all the SG are doing that just fine.
If the labels see they can get decent sales with almost minimal promotion (NMB, NGT and HKT latest singles), then why bother with more?

I assume the groups have other means to make money apart from those anyway (merchandise, CMs, tour, theatre...).
Selling singles doesn't seem to be their end game. If so, HKT wouldn't have gone from November '11 to March '13 without releasing one.

 

bakawaei gori oshi, so tired of seeing avex pushing her non stop.

 

Single sales are just a piece of it. But considering how little the girls get paid, running a sister group is not much cost compared to what they bring in.

 

http://akb48taimuzu.livedoor.biz/archives/53423829.html
http://akb48taimuzu.livedoor.biz/archives/53424333.html
translate please.

 

the first is about a 14yo candidate girl saying "you won't have a future if you join to akb", and keeps on talking about how acchan and yuko, who were the most well-known faces in the group are barely on tv anymore.
"There's no stable future (after quitting the group); Maeda Atsuko and Oshima Yuko, who were so popular during the golden days of AKB are hardly ever seen on television nowadays. Only a handful of them (the graduated members) is lucky enough to stay relevant after leaving the group. Even NMB's member Akarin is complaining about how hard it is." - or smth along these lines.

I'm not sure about the second link, however what i understood is that it's basically impossible to graduate from akb if your name is Yukirin, Sayanee or Sasshi