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Stage48 Wiki - Organization & Discussion

Discussion in 'Announcements & News' started by aakun, Aug 3, 2010.

  1. Akira Maruni Harvestrainer48

    Akira Maruni Harvestrainer48 Kenkyuusei

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  2. bonjourmarlene

    bonjourmarlene Upcoming Girls

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    In that case, I am against adding HS information. It would seem very incomplete and inaccurate to only have a few random ones in there.
     
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  3. goratnik

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    I'm not sure what is the idea about, is that something we don't have right now included anywhere?
     
  4. sscrla

    sscrla Stage48 Moderator Staff Member Stage48 Moderator

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  5. wlerin

    wlerin Upcoming Girls

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    Most handshake mini lives were never available for viewing outside actually attending the events in person (or in short clips on Nemousu TV). This recent AKB48 x STU48 mini live was released on AKB48 Group Eizo, making it helpful to add a setlist and info for it to the wiki.

    As for info on old handshake events:
    http://akb.kingrecords.co.jp/handshake/nationwide/index_6.html
    https://ameblo.jp/akihabara48/theme-10050659930.html
    https://twilog.org/s_egg
    http://www.scramble-egg.com/artist/akb48/

    Similar sources may exist for sister groups.
     
  6. gotbild

    gotbild Kenkyuusei Stage48 Donor

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    I have recently made my own set lists for Request Hour because the lists here are not complete, but I wonder. There don't seems to be one single method in which order the names are written. Sometimes it looks like a lottery. Any comments from you who works with the Wiki? ;)
     
  7. wlerin

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    The ideal would be to sort by group, then team, and then hiragana name order; or (for unit songs) sort by position in the song. But in practice I'd just try to find the closest to official (DVD booklet > manager blogs > scramble egg > memolist > media articles > matome sites) source or sources and follow the order they use. Most of the time it'll be one of those two anyway.
     
  8. Generic_User

    Generic_User Rank 81-100 (Temporary Name) Stage48 Donor

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    Are the admins ever going to fix the image file problem?

    I know this is rhetorical.
     
  9. gotbild

    gotbild Kenkyuusei Stage48 Donor

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    But how many here know hiragana name order? And also, why use hiragana order when the names are written in romaji? The question isn't easy to answer. The way of sort by group, team and so on will often be outdated after the next shuffle. I've used the position in the song sometimes, but what if they move around?

    I really got puzzled over the name order when I saw one song and the 16 members was in one name order. The next song was performed by the same members but the name order was totally changed. What the ...? I've forgotten where I saw it. I think that in my own setlists I will use stictly alphabetic order.
     
  10. wlerin

    wlerin Upcoming Girls

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    It's not hard to learn, nor to double check if you forget. You just need to learn the order of vowels and the order of initial consonants.

    Because that's the order the wiki uses, and the order most sources will use. Look at any team page, any senbatsu listing, all the member pages. Look at any of the member lists on the official sites.

    On the contrary, it's super easy to answer and I just did. However, actually putting it into practice is harder for older performances, because...

    Shuffles don't change anything. Obviously we're talking about their group and team at the time of the performance.

    Again, we're talking about the setlist for a single performance, their position in the choreography isn't going to change during the song.

    Hopefully you can remember, I'd like to see it.

    Use whatever you like for your personal data, but if you add anything to the wiki please use group>team>hiragana order rather than alphabetic.
     
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  11. gotbild

    gotbild Kenkyuusei Stage48 Donor

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    @wlerin Ok for hiragana and the order now when I've got an explanation but isn't it more complicated to separate groups and teams? I see the reason at the song pages and in studio48 but when you have a lot of names in a long row? But it's ok for me as long as I don't have to handle with it and don't worry, I'm not editing the Wiki. ;) I'll try to find the puzzling page.

    But I can tell about an error instead. RH 2014, day 4 January 26. In the Encore section. They performed 5 songs, not 4. Direct after Koi suru fortune cookie came Heavy rotation.
     
  12. bonjourmarlene

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    I agree with @wlerin on using the Hiragana order because that's already how most pages are edited, and it's how most Japanese sources list members so it's easier to copy it that way. Otherwise there's always a high chance of forgetting someone or writing someone down twice.
     
  13. gotbild

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    Believe me, there will be errors anyway. As I said before I've bought RH 2012-2016 and I've found forgetted members when I've done my own setlists. But the big problem is when the setlist is incomplete. Often it only says Senbatsu and sometimes nothing. I have to go to http://48pedia.org/AKB48 but even there I've found errors and missing members.
     
  14. bonjourmarlene

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    Yes I'm aware but we don't have to make it worse by using different alphabets and orders all across the board
     
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  15. Shinga Kurukato

    Shinga Kurukato Kenkyuusei Stage48 Donor

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    @takajuro the upload problem has been experienced for months now and it's often discussed/complained in here
     
  16. halcyon

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    Is anyone here able to create a backup of the wiki in the case the server dies permanently?
     
  17. Shinga Kurukato

    Shinga Kurukato Kenkyuusei Stage48 Donor

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    here's one way back in April, 2019

    http://dev.hansip.net/disaster/wiki48/index.html

    the good ol' times when we can still upload files
     
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  18. sscrla

    sscrla Stage48 Moderator Staff Member Stage48 Moderator

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    NO NAME has a wiki page that says they were a one-shot unit (where one-shot unit is incorrectly written as one shot-unit).
    http://stage48.net/wiki/index.php/NO_NAME

    However, they don't appear on the main AKB48 page under One-Shot Units.
     
  19. bonjourmarlene

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    I'm tempted to consider NO NAME a (former) unit rather than a one-shot unit. They had two releases (because there were two seasons of AKB0048). Every other one-shot unit in the list has only had one release, with the exception of Team Surprise, who I would also not classify as a one-shot unit; a lot of their songs are originals, especially the third (unreleased) stage.
     
  20. sscrla

    sscrla Stage48 Moderator Staff Member Stage48 Moderator

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    That's a good solution. Before, they weren't on the main page at all.
     

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